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if you're talking about in general, I agree. The danger of both covid and the vaccine have been misrepresented and used for political gain by people on both side of the fence. if you're talking about the fence that realville and myself are arguing across, I would have to disagree. I'm literally using basic statistics and irrefutable numbers to make a common sense point. He just says whatever pops into his head or uses smoke and mirrors to change the subject, or says how stupid my point is while offering literally no discernable rebuttal.

speaking of losing an argument... real numbers you can't refute? blah blah blah, Fauci's a liar. good point. i agree. what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? Nothing.

I pointed it out because you kept using words like "stupid" to describe my arguments. you keep accusing me of making things up, but all I'm doing is applying statistics and percentages to data. Then you actually make things up. It's hilarious. You're on a crusade, which sure, whatever, do what you want, and you keep regurgitating the same info from one or two doctors that goes against basically everything that 99% of doctors are saying. That's also fine. But I could post equally compelling arguments for getting the vaccine from basically ALL OTHER DOCTORS, and you'd be like "nah, vaccine bad, covid stupid, realville right." anyway, i'm still waiting on your answer to my question (isn't that how this game works?): If 8,000 people a day die in the US, and over 130,000,000 have been vaccinated (most of them TWICE), would it not stand to reason that thousands of people will die after receiving the vaccine of other causes? Like you stated, you shouldn't need a college degree to answer this one.

You accuse people of making unfounded statements, and then in the same breath come up with stuff like this gem of a run-on sentence that I bolded for you. It's math, not gibberish, but I'm sure it sounds like it to you. I know it's a lot to process without a good grasp on math. I don't know if you're just that dumb, or are being intentionally dense, but I'll ask you a question, and see if I get an answer: If 8,000 people a day die in the US, and over 130,000,000 have been vaccinated (most of them TWICE), would it not stand to reason that thousands of people will die after receiving the vaccine of other causes? I'll give you a hint, the answer is yes, but please, since my mathematical explanation is "gibberish", if you think it's no, explain why. And don't say "nobody could even know that", because it's literally all based on normal death daily death rates factored into the % of the population that's been vaccinated. I didn't even factor in the fact that the death rate of the vaccinated population would be much higher due to the makeup of those being vaccinated (elderly, pre-existing conditions). If you looked at another group of 130,000,000 Americans who had NOT been vaccinated, thousands of them would also die during the same time period. As to your other point, which also shows your political bias and lack of common sense, if EVERY death reported to VAERS was directly related to the vaccine (which it is not), and HALF of the reported covid deaths were wrongly reported (which nowhere that many were), you're looking at 4,000 Vaccine deaths vs. around 300,000 covid deaths, even though at this point more people have been vaccinated than infected with Covid. I wonder which is more dangerous... Realville MD says people should worry about the vaccine and take their chances with Covid. Seems legit, considering his math skillz and mastery of their/there/they're and your/you're.

To break the numbers down further: 1.2M Americans are being vaccinated daily. 8000 Americans die daily. If you find the % of Americans that die on a daily basis, and apply it to the 1.2M being vaccinated daily, approximately 26.4 people from that population number would be expected to die on a daily basis. Extend that to a week and you’re looking at almost 200 people from that population group. At the peak, over 2M Americans were vaccinated daily. Out of a population group of 2M Americans, on average around 50 will die daily. It’s not rocket science to see how the number of coincidental deaths after vaccination is going to rise well into the thousands considering over how long of a time period huge amounts of at-risk people have been vaccinated daily. Again, I’m not claiming that nobody has died from the vaccine. I have no way of knowing that, or how many it’s been. But a report to VAERS is nowhere close to a confirmed vaccine death, and they say as much on their website. But even if all 4000 deaths reported to VAERS were directly related to the vaccine (which they most certainly are not), you’re looking at a death rate of around .0017% for those who’ve taken the vaccine, and again, simple math shows that with a population group of this size, there will be MANY coincidental deaths, so the death rate is much lower than .0017, which is beyond negligible as it is.

Taken directly from the VAERS website: Reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information. The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines

You’re accusing me of making stuff up, while in the same breath saying 3000 people have died FROM the vaccine. There’s zero proof that they died from the vaccine, and you have “no way of knowing” that they did. I applied simple math to show why when you’re dealing with over 100,000,000 million people, some of them are going to die. I’ll use smaller numbers so that you can understand. If one out of ten people die a week, and ten people get the vaccine and then one dies, it’s unlikely he died from the vaccine. Still too complicated? If one out of two people die a week, and two people get the vaccine and one dies, he probably didn’t die from vaccine. I never realized that using simple statistics to formulate odds and averages is “stupid justification”, but I’m sure it sounds stupid when you aren’t intelligent enough to understand how math works.

Wish I'd been keeping up with this one as it happened.

Having played soccer my whole life, I'm a huge fan of the men's national team, and have always supported the women's team as well. I could go off on a tangent about the inequalities between A) the competition the two teams face and B ) the way they're compensated. I won't, but I assure you it's ridiculous the differences in what the men's and women's teams receive. The women were offered the exact same deal as the men, but refused it and negotiated for other things. Now they're claiming they're being treated unfairly because the men make more $ per game, and they want the same amount as the men. Remember, the women had that offer and refused it. It's all about greed and an overinflated view of what their product is worth.

I can't stand her. As someone who played soccer at the college level, I know the game well enough to say with confidence she's overrated. Add to that all of her kneeling nonsense, and even more bothersome to me, her spearheading the very dishonest effort to "get paid the same as the men", even though they're much better compensated already, and she just gets on my nerves.

It’s possible that some people died from getting the vaccine, I don’t know. But 8,000 people die a day in the US. 1/3 of the country has been fully vaccinated, a good portion of whom are in the highest risk categories for death (elderly, pre-existing conditions). There’s going to be coincidental overlap. At its peak, over 2M Americans a day were being vaccinated. Spread that out over a few months, and a small amount of those people are going to die anyway from other causes. So yeah, it’s possible that some people died somehow from the vaccine, but elementary statistics says when you’re dealing with over 110 million people getting the shot, some of them were going to die from something anyway.

And you can keep alpha femaling your anti-vaccine campaign. Cheers!

Diboll advances with a 12-0 win

East Bernard advances with a 3-1 win

Carthage advances with a 1-0 win.

Liberty advances, winning 9-0

All you do is fearmonger. You post stuff from bad sources, or even worse, Twitter, and you only make anti-vax posts. I’ve completely refuted several of your erroneous posts, some with your own sources, and you couldn’t even rebut it, but just stonewalled by asking the same irrelevant, unrelated questions over and over. If you weren’t anti-vaccine, you would post “important” information for and against it, as there is plenty of both. I don’t care if you get the vaccine or not, and I don’t care what others think of me getting the vaccine. It’s ironic that you compared me to Lebron, as you’re the one that posts knee-jerk opinions with little or no basis in fact, and do so based solely on your political beliefs. Lebron is also a good comparison for you because you’re not even the GOAT of that on this website, but only #2. And yes, I’ve got a diaper you can change. It’s full of your opinions of me.

That's right, but wetnurse Realville says it's Realbad, and everyone who gets vaccinated is going to die, and so does that doctor on youtube, so everyone should be super worried.

Crazy stuff. Wonder what happened. Hope it's not another Blaine Padgett type deal.

I feel like there is way too much effort put into making sure these executions are humane. Too much emphasis has been put into a painless process by lethal injection. It's one thing to ban criminals from being tortured, although I'm fairly certain some public torturing would greatly reduce the numbers of sex crimes committed against children. So no torture, but do I care if a child murderer "feels it" for a couple of minutes when he's electrocuted or shot? No, I do not. Personally, I hope it hurts like hell and they know (and can feel) exactly what's happening to them right up until the very end. All that being said, there should be ZERO doubt that someone is guilty if they're going to be executed. A lot of crooked stuff went on back in the day, and innocent people have been murdered by our justice system. Protecting innocent people from being executed is the only argument that holds any weight with me at all from those who are opposed. In today's climate and with today's technology the odds of that are almost nil compared to 30 years ago.

You understand correctly, but there’s been plenty of talk about him trying to do something bigger like Parler. I also agree with most of what you state here. My point was just if a large group of people turned to him for all of their news and information, he would definitely use it for his own good, rather than the people following him.

That was what I highlighted when I quoted 5gallonbucket. He literally said “the problem would be people not dropping those other liberal media to follow just his.” And my point was if trump became the only source of information for his most ardent followers, that would definitely turn into a way for him to make things better for himself, and he definitely would not use it to the best interest of his followers.

It's still really confusing to me that there are a lot of intelligent people willing to do this. Trump didn't do a bad job as president, but his entire adult life he's done whatever he could to make himself money. He's also not a conservative. See the previous statement I made (his entire adult life he's done whatever he could to make himself money). It suited him (and made him money) to become a conservative. So he became a "conservative" republican, a "conservative" president, and now he's somehow become the messiah for the ultra-conservative right. Bare in mind, I voted for him twice, so don't get your panties all bunched up, but the idea of a political figure holding some type of monopoly over the media for a large group of people doesn't sound like the greatest idea, especially when that political figure's #1 goal is to make money for himself. I can't imagine a scenario when one of the most self-serving businessmen in modern history could become the ONLY news source for millions of people, and he wouldn't take complete advantage of it. But hey, do what you want to do. It would probably as reliable a source of news as some of the sites posted in this political forum.

Because facebook already exists and has 2.7B users. Zuckerberg didn't have a following, but facebook was a fresh idea. Like I said, if you start Trumpbook and have a few million users, plus nobody willing to host the platform, and most companies unwilling to invest or sponsor it, it's not going anywhere. Like YOU said, Trump is a smart businessman, and he knows a losing idea when he sees one.

Depends on how you look at it. HJ knocked them out of their rhythm, but didn't create a lot of turnovers with it because canyon had so many solid ball handlers. HJ gave that game away at the end. I still get grumpy thinking about it.