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Moderates didn't hate him yet. They do now.

That’s awful

They’re real good

CH has a good record, but a super weak schedule full of mediocre wins against bad teams. I'm not saying they won't make it, but they're gettable. Huffman, while not a favorite, is capable of beating them for sure.

End to a tough year for Davis and the hawks. Good luck to the tigers the rest of the way!

Wasn’t really talking about the one still in, more so the 3 or 4 on the court the first few minutes of the 4th

Don’t really understand this one. Can you imagine if one of them had gotten hurt mid-4th up 35?

Was Shenk any good? I teach his daughter. We talk from time to time, and I never knew he was a basketball guy.

HJ 76 Silsbee 64

This Silsbee team is 30+ points better than HJ. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the hawks find a way to keep it closer than that, but it’s going to be a tall task

Any clue how easy it is to get one of these reprimands? They sure hand out a lot of them.

You know I'll argue with these guys from time to time, even though I vote to the right. But you literally started this thread to quarrel, then posted your bible verse to justify a position, and then took exception to someone else using a bible verse to (jokingly) justify theirs. like big mad, and all high and mighty. Pretty hypocritical in the case of this particular thread.

Haven’t seen a game, but it seems like my horns have improved some this year. We’ve got a really solid core of 10-13 year olds across a couple of teams that should make the program a playoff contender in 3-4 years

What a game!

how does one have an 8-22 team handed to him on a silver platter? Great job by Coach Hoyt to turn this team around in 2 years, whether the players were there or not. Those players won 8 and 5 games the two years before he took over.

wait, when dude started complaining I thought this was Hoyt's first year. It's his second, and he took over an 8-22 team? There wasn't a dang thing handed to him if that's the case, not that it would me relevant if there was.

Don’t know the score, but vidor won and is into the playoffs. First time in 20 years.

sure. they may not have made the playoffs in those 3 years without that one player, though. maybe a 4th or something.

this is like 8 different questions that are all over the place. Lumberton, whether 4A or 5A, played the same tough local teams for at least 12 years before Mitchell took over, and he did the same as the guys before him the one year he played them. I don't have any idea what their wins (with McClure) over HF have to do with anything. And no, Lumberton was one of the worst 5A teams in the state. Just by dropping down they improved dramatically. McClure accelerated that. Mitchell did a good job under fortuitous circumstances.

@HasBeen36 This is a perfect example of the type of posts that drive me nuts, that when I reply to them it makes me seem like a Mitchell hater when that's not what I'm trying to do. Mitchell did a good job getting Lumberton to the playoffs. Hell, let's say he did a great job. But then the post has to make it sound like he's better than these guys because he's doing "more with less". But anyone with a lick of common sense knows every single coach he listed here would've gone to the playoffs 3 times in a row with those McClure teams as well. That doesn't mean Mitchell didn't do a good job, but there's this disingenuous narrative that he's somehow done something that nobody else could do. And yes, in a normal year those guys have more talent that Mitchell does in Lumberton, but also in a normal year they have many more wins despite playing tougher schedules, and usually go further in the playoffs. Like they're supposed to with their better talent. That's no knock on Josh with his inferior talent, but how's it a knock on them for doing significantly more with more?

That's the whole point here, and it's clear that Mitchell's fans have a different definition than everyone else. And it's a shame, because he's done just fine over there, but with all of the crazy claims made by a handful of people, these turn into what feels like an anti-Mitchell thread, when in reality they turn into anti-delusional Mitchell fan threads.

His freshman year they got blasted in the same district that Mitchell's predecessors got blasted in, so that's irrelevant. He must have been pretty good the other 3 years, because Lumberton hasn't come close to duplicating what they did while he was there since. And do you know how rare it is for a local 4A player not from Silsbee to get an offer to Lamar? As to the strength of their schedule, it's not been really tough, but it's certainly tougher than years past. That's been balanced out some by the fact that this is the worst district they've played in under Mitchell, and honestly in at least the last 20 years.

At some point it has to be asked what Lumberton basketball was before McClure got there. Since McClure graduated Lumberton has a grand total of 3 wins against 4A or better playoff teams in 3 seasons. That's not 3 playoff wins, that's 3 wins across 3 years in over 30 opportunities against 4A or better squads good enough to make the playoffs. In McClure's last 3 years they had 14 of those wins, including 3 in the actual playoffs. I'm not saying it was all McClure or that Mitchell had nothing to do with their improvement, but Mitchell also took over at the exact right time to take advantage of a significantly easier district and the best player in program history. Since that player has gone the program has dropped off substantially. I say none of this to criticize Mitchell, as it is tough to win without the players. But if Lumberton keeps missing the playoffs with the occasional 4th place finish y'all are gonna have to stop trying to lump him in with the area's elite. Especially since most of the hype is based on a 3-year turnaround that in large part was on the shoulders of one of those types of players that all of his biggest fans claim that he wins without.

Some stuff happened several years back that really bothered me, but I'm over it, and have been for some time. I won't rehash it. At this point it's just the insane posts from his supporters that when you dispute them makes it seem like hate.

You aren't dumb here, but Mitchell is better than all of those coaches. Got it. But here's the thing... without that caliber of player, Mitchell isn't really winning much either. Which is okay. It's hard to win with weak players. But don't tell me those other coaches on this list can't go 11-20 with his roster this year. Or 19-18 and 17-14 the last two years playing in multiple 2A-3A tourneys both seasons. That's asinine.