usedtobe

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1372705" timestamp="1360626284"]
[quote author=usedtobe link=topic=109177.msg1372698#msg1372698 date=1360625483]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109177.msg1372692#msg1372692 date=1360624718]
Kind of surprised that they would just cancel the game and not try to find another facility. But I was more surprised they chose HBU facility to begin with.

Yates needs to come over here and play. Could play game at Ford Arena.
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What do you want to bet that Yates already has another game lined up at some facility in Houston?  How do you get to this point and not have Houston Baptist on board for the date and event?  This is some of that inner-city BS!  Let's hear it DickieV - I know you will have an excuse for Yates. :(
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First of all, from what I understand, cancelling the game had NOTHING to do with Yates...The connection between Yates and HBU is that Yates HC Greg Wise is a former player and HBU Alum...Honestly the "powers to be" at HBU, were concerned about space, security and the headache of having to turn people away...Has NOTHING to do with "inner city BS".... ::) ::)....I think Yates may play Travis, Marshall or Bush, from what I hear....Nothing confirmed, thats just the direction I hear they are going to go.
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Thank you DickieV - I knew that you would have your finger on the pulse of this thing. ;D

[quote name="fisherman2" post="1372691" timestamp="1360624586"]
[quote author=eagleswoodville#1 link=topic=96275.msg1372650#msg1372650 date=1360617032]
[quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=96275.msg1372629#msg1372629 date=1360611667]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=96275.msg1372520#msg1372520 date=1360591359]
[quote author=fisherman2 link=topic=96275.msg1372518#msg1372518 date=1360590849]
Now Broaddus and Woodville are better than Kelly  ;D this gets funnier every week.
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Yep, about as funny as a 4 game losing streak. ;)
[/quote] all road games against The Village, St Thomas, St Pius, and Concordia with two of our starters playing injured not to mention they were all close games except the Village where our starting PG didn't even play. All those teams would beat every team ranked ahead Kelly except Kountze for sure. And Pius and The Village  would have good games with Kountze and almost any team in the Big School rankings. Pius already had a good game with Nederland earlier this year, lost by seven. And Village had a great time destroying your Tigers at the Nederland tourney  ;) not to mention Kelly has beat Cleveland, Big Sandy, and [b]beat Woodville in one of the worst games we have played all year.[/b] I'm not mad we dropped or anything, I could care less, I just think it's funny that some people even think of the teams above Kelly to even be around Kelly's level. Kelly is WAY better than those tests ahead of them they would run Broaddus out of the country much less the gym. A matter of fact I would put Kelly right between Ozen and Cleveland in the Big School polls. I just don't see how a 4 game ROAD losing streak against really good teams coming off of an 11 game win streak drops you from 2nd to 9th.
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Lol so you play a close game with a team that's just as athletic (possibly more athletic) than you and now it's one of your worst games all year? Lol you played in a hostile environment and came out with a win against a very scrappy, athletic team. The fundamentals and shooting is what separates Woodville and Kelly. This ranking is about team performance and wins and losses. Not quality of opponent, for the most part. If you can't compete with the teams in your district, you should move down. I agree that Kelly has played much tougher opponents than most smaller teams in this area. I think we all get that. But four game losing streaks are going to get you moved down. No matter who you play, whether it was a bad game or not, or where it was. Impressive 11-game win streaks can be eliminated in the minds of people by poor play during district competition.
[/quote] having seen Kelly play almost every game this year that was a terrible game for us. And we are definitely more athletic in my opinion.
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fisherman2, you're too Catholic to be objective in any of these rankings that involve Kelly.  They are a good team - but the walking on water is over.  It really doesn't matter why they have lost four in a row - they have.  You can sit there and spin it until you get dizzy but it won't change anything.  Besides, it's just a poll based on the opinions of a lot of "usedtobe" athletes.  How much does it really matter?

[quote name="TammyEdelmon" post="1372693" timestamp="1360624830"]
HJ
Bridge City
Silsbee
HF
Buna
OF
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No love for WO-S, Tammy?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1372692" timestamp="1360624718"]
Kind of surprised that they would just cancel the game and not try to find another facility. But I was more surprised they chose HBU facility to begin with.

Yates needs to come over here and play. Could play game at Ford Arena.
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What do you want to bet that Yates already has another game lined up at some facility in Houston?  How do you get to this point and not have Houston Baptist on board for the date and event?  This is some of that inner-city BS!  Let's hear it DickieV - I know you will have an excuse for Yates. :(

[quote name="TopDawG52" post="1372576" timestamp="1360604050"]
Nederland at central. Or.  WOS at Silsbee. 
Help me out
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If you have to ask, then go see the Nederland at Central game.  You seem to be such a puss that your heart probably couldn't
handle the Mustangs at the Tigers game and the last thing we need in Silsbee is an EMS
interruption to drag your limp carcus out to the ambulance.  Yeah, it's unanimous - go to the Nederland / Central game. ::) 8)

[quote name="utfan06" post="1372556" timestamp="1360601324"]
[quote author=Silsbeealum14 link=topic=109044.msg1371851#msg1371851 date=1360381621]
[quote author=Kountzer link=topic=109044.msg1371746#msg1371746 date=1360372929]
Could be.  Yates and Dallas Madison will have a lot of say in all that.
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Tatum and White Oak will too !!!!! ;D
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We already beat White Oak...Yea we lost to Tatum early..but we were missing 2 starters..  8)
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Kountze Lions basketball team and Coach Joubert:  just keep doing what you're doing and neither White Oak not Tatum will make any difference in where you are going. 8)

[quote name="bedelmon" post="1372509" timestamp="1360585095"]
Ok Lazeek, so I'm guessig someone told yo my son plays defensive end and you take a shot at the d line? Obviously you know nothing about HJ's 2012 football team. The d line was probably one of the best in the district. They are the reason we were in every game this year.
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Bedelmon, bedelmon, bedelmon - you have been sniffing the fumes too long.  Claiming that he Hardin-Jefferson defensive line was
best in the district last year?  Get a grip man
(or woman)!  You are leaking credibility. ::)

[quote name="Scatright" post="1372514" timestamp="1360588599"]
[quote author=Hulk_Shepeard link=topic=108568.msg1372503#msg1372503 date=1360573092]
[quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=108568.msg1372482#msg1372482 date=1360551742]
[quote author=jwayne link=topic=108568.msg1372439#msg1372439 date=1360541870]
Buddy, (can I call you Buddy) when someone calls the parents of the football players pathetic, and that we have no talent to compete, and is pompous enough to state his opinion as FACT.  That is bashing his community.  We do have the talent to compete.  I get tired of people who know nothing of our program stating we don't.  I understand why they do it though.  When you get your rear handed to you in almost every game it is easy to make that assumption.  When you see the hard work, extra work these kids put in for football only to be mis-coached it is heart breaking.  THAT IS A FACT!  If the football coaches would talk to you, you would see the frustration they had.
Then you have someone (Lazeek) who knows absolutely nothing about football to start stating his opinion as fact is laughable.  All the inside scoop he is referring to are not football coaches.  Football parents are very passionate about the sport.  Farmer Fran does not bug me.  He is a pot stirrer, but he is passionate about football and you have to respect that.  [b]If I wanted to know what club to use on the 9th hole at Idylwild with a 6mph crosswind, Lazeek would be the first one I would ask. [/b] When it comes to football questions, his name would not even be on my list.
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I could help you out there for sure!!!!

As far as the football thing goes it is pretty obvious.  HJ has good athletes at the skill positions.  [u][b]Where they struggle is on the offensive and defensive line.  I have seen enough games over the past 3-4 years to know that[/b][/u].
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really lazeek! so what your saying is that every class from 2010 to present has not a D-line or O-line that was good? because if i recall back in 2010 the D-line an O-line did a great job...especially the D-line! they did a killer job at messing up plays for the other teams...because of the them H-J held WOS to 21-14 game and held silsbee to a score less first half till they started get switched out for some reason............beside that fact H-J does have the talent to compete, but instead we have people like you saying that we will never compete with WOS or Silsbee that gets the kis of the football program down on them selves and not even wanna try. maybe instead of telling them hey might as well give up because youll never be good enough. you should try this new thing out im not sure if you have heard of it but its called be supportive! its were you tell the kids hey i dont care who we are playing or how bada## everyone makes them out to be they can be beat by you if you dont back down and never give up you can take out any opponent! an thats whats calle being supportive or motivation! you shoul try sometime when you dont have basketball on your mind. 


o and btw if you say "here is another intelligent first post" i want be as nice the next post :)
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With posts like this becoming more and more prevalent on this thread, it seems that you HJ guys need to quit worrying so much about people being supportive of the football program and focus that energy on getting people to be supportive of the english program at HJHS.  8)

It's a shame that a guy like Lazeek, who has been nothing but supportive of all HJ athletics, is getting this kind of junk from you guys.  If that is how HJ treats their supporters, then there is no wonder why HJ doesn't have any left.
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Scat - you are comical !  Thanks for your entertainment. ;D

[quote name="OctFeb" post="1372521" timestamp="1360591770"]
http://www.texasfootball.com/recruiting-news/view/180315


Dayton K/P Juan Carranco, Lamar
Look, I know what you’re thinking: It’s just a kicker. But A) strong special teams are often hard to come by at the college level, and B) it really, really matters. Most recruiting gurus will admit that the kicker class in Texas was relatively thin, but Lamar snagged one of the best in the state in Carranco. He’s second all-time in career field goals with 42, and earned back-to-back trips to the All-State team. Plain and simple: every team needs a kicker, and Lamar got one of the best in the state in Carranco. And don’t forget about other guys like Longview RB Tory White, Kingwood RB Kade Harrington or John Tyler LB Richard Gipson; the Cardinals made a strong Signing Day push.
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I'm a Lamar Alumunus and I believe we got a steal in Carranco.  I really thought that Texas A & M would be going after Carranco
because their kicking game is a little suspect.  Don't know what that problem was - maybe grades - again, I don't know but I welcome the young man to Lamar. 8)

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1372531" timestamp="1360593882"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109118.msg1372452#msg1372452 date=1360545870]
English is one of the few coaches I admire for.the way he.coaches.his son. Most coaches with sons feature their sons, and the majority I see have no business on the court. English should feature.his son more in the offense. I can say this now because I don't expect to play them again. English, take the chains off your kid and don't worry about what others think. Give him the green light. Its not like he's going to go out and shoot 30-40 shots. He will still be a team player.
[/quote] That happen al the time blue.I no one that will quite before he has too.   

Catman, I have read many of your posts.  I'm sad to report to you that your mind goes much faster than your fingers on the
keyboard.  Please reread your posts before you post them to fill in the words that you leave out.  I have NO CLUE what you mean in your last sentence.  Thanks,  8)
                                                                                                                                                               

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1372546" timestamp="1360597152"]
Hire Coach Stan Hodges. Turned Kountze around few years back. He knows how to get all the BB kids on the field and be productive.
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H-D 55, why don't you just go on running the
athletic program at Hull-Daisetta and let
Hardin-Jefferson handle its own program.  Is Hodges your brother-in-law or something?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1372321" timestamp="1360508445"]
I think Kountze could beat HJ by double digits. When HJ decides to get some of those basketball players on the field, they will win. Cant tell me Bosha or  Prudhomme or.Bosha wouldn't be good WR's? Man that would have been some WR threat. What about Johnson at RB or WR. All these kids have speed!
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Is there more than one Bosha in school at H-J? ???

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1372214" timestamp="1360463562"]
[quote author=liltex link=topic=109111.msg1372211#msg1372211 date=1360463361]
Passed by the new location today in the middle of a shopping strip center maybe a mile north of the LHS Raider location on the west side.Closer for me I'm all in.[b]Maybe we'd see some Lumb-Kountze-Silsbee-W.Hardin fans[/b] to come join in 8)
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It's a "must" to get some of those H-D fans there also.  They probably won't eat but they will keep the place lively. ;D

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1372216" timestamp="1360463751"]
Also, me and a fellow buddy of mine were office aids our senior year. I remeber the numbers like it was yesterday. I remeber a certain Silsbee principal speaking of adding a few more teachers to drop some numbers from some of the regular classrooms.
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The more I learn about you, BS, the more amazed I become. :) 8)

[quote name="Blain" post="1372218" timestamp="1360464302"]
I ready for anything you have. I believe in my program. Shouldn't have silsbee beat us 50-0?? You're right, this is a public forum. You sound like you got your feelings hurt. How old are you. I can post my opinion just like you can. Why don't you put your big pants on. I am in the weight room. And I challenge any player from WOS or silsbee.
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What are you challenging "any player from WO-/S or Silsbee" to do?      ???

[quote name="Allan" post="1372235" timestamp="1360467757"]
I think that when we get a new coach, IF he knows what he is doing, he will put the best talent on the feild, silsbee will be beat and you will finally stop talking and know that it isn't our talent.
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And I'm pretty certain that "IF" he doesn't know what he's doing then you will let him know it. ::) 8)

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1372252" timestamp="1360469038"]
[quote author=bedelmon link=topic=109132.msg1372248#msg1372248 date=1360468724]
When you guys start using your real names like i do, then you can make those childish accusations. Your on my friend. There are alot of HJ folks that love this program and are very excited about the changes coming. [b]They dont get on here because we are a blue collarcommunity [/b]and we dont have all day to get on her like you do.
[/quote] Nederland is a blue collar community, Port Neches is a blue collar community etc..........Their fans post on here. Not sure what you meant by THAT statement.  ???
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Bedelmon is your "real" name?  Sorry 'bout that.  What are you really ranting about, real name bedelmon?  Your post is hard to understand. ???

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1372095" timestamp="1360444883"]
Within the next 8 years Silsbee could be 2A.
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As usual BS, you with your bs are so out of touch that it's getting comical.  Actually, the Board needs to open a separate topic for you: "Comedy, Irrelevance & Badsanta." 8)

[quote name="bwbiddle" post="1371888" timestamp="1360386985"]
They had them down by 20 all three quarters tho"... :D
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If by "all three quarters" you are including the first quarter, then you are incorrect. ???

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1371006" timestamp="1360260714"]
I stand corrected...The impossible actually DID happen... :-[...That was the year Kevin Thomas, Lincoln's best returning player, was kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons, and they did struggle some.  Went back to state the very next season and lost to Dallas Lincoln by a point in the State game, 46-45...Once again, I am not above admitting when I am wrong... 8)
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No . . . it just takes you five lines and a lot more of your hot air to do it.  But, well confessed DickieV.  I'm archiving this one. ;D

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1371011" timestamp="1360261100"]
Listen do you guys ACTUALLY think that Buna would have beaten Bmt. Hebert, or Houston Wheatley, or Lincoln back in the days when they were not allowed to play in the UIL? If you do, you are delusional. ::) Has NOTHING to do with my own personal beliefs about race, or how I feel about segregation, or how idiotic it was....So do not attempt to turn it into that...I just know that pre-integration, the "white" UIL wanted NO PART of those PVIL league teams.
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1371011" timestamp="1360261100"]
Listen do you guys ACTUALLY think that Buna would have beaten Bmt. Hebert, or Houston Wheatley, or Lincoln back in the days when they were not allowed to play in the UIL? If you do, you are delusional. ::) Has NOTHING to do with my own personal beliefs about race, or how I feel about segregation, or how idiotic it was....So do not attempt to turn it into that...I just know that pre-integration, the "white" UIL wanted NO PART of those PVIL league teams.
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DickieV, you know that I can't stand your braggadocio
attitude and your know "everytning" attitude.  But trying to get by my personal shortcomings, I agree with your assessment about pre-integration basketball in the state of Texas.  There may have been an occasional win by the "all white team" but the vast majority of the wins would have been on the side of PVIL league. :)

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1370925" timestamp="1360247086"]
Who so you think wins this one? HJ is seaking revenge after a earlier lost.
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BS, you're in the wrong profession.  You should be a headline writer for USA TODAY.  You're so astute! ;D

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1369620" timestamp="1359929032"]
I will delete my account if Kountze beats Yates! It won't happen people. This is a inner city hoops academy. Not some small town group of talent. Their JV would beat Kountze. The Yates team u seen earlier in the year is even better now. Kountze can keep in close for 1 qtr. It might be 21-18 after one then re doors will come off. I live here and have seen them play more than once. You guys like Kountze because u are local. No 2A team in Texas will within 20 points of them. If Yates was 4A they would get back to state. You people need to understand that size matters! 3 guys 6'6 with SKILLS will eat you alive. They have 2 guards that will force Kointze to get out of the press in the 1st qtr. Thief guards at up Travis! Andrew Harrison is the only guard I have seen not be affected by their up tempo. You have a better chance of the Texans winning the Super Bowl today than Kountze beating Yates. Matter of fact Kountze will lose to Tatum!
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Well, he probably can't be trusted to honor his opening statement - but, anyway:  GO KOUNTZE      GO KOUNTZE    GO KOUNTZE! ;D

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="1369640" timestamp="1359937611"]
[quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=108798.msg1369620#msg1369620 date=1359929032]
I will delete my account if Kountze beats Yates! It won't happen people. This is a inner city hoops academy. Not some small town group of talent. Their JV would beat Kountze. The Yates team u seen earlier in the year is even better now. Kountze can keep in close for 1 qtr. It might be 21-18 after one then re doors will come off. I live here and have seen them play more than once. You guys like Kountze because u are local. No 2A team in Texas will within 20 points of them. If Yates was 4A they would get back to state. You people need to understand that size matters! 3 guys 6'6 with SKILLS will eat you alive. They have 2 guards that will force Kointze to get out of the press in the 1st qtr. Thief guards at up Travis! Andrew Harrison is the only guard I have seen not be affected by their up tempo. You have a better chance of the Texans winning the Super Bowl today than Kountze beating Yates. Matter of fact Kountze will lose to Tatum!
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Look how dumb you sound LB. First you say no 2A team will come within 20 pts of Kountze then you say they will lose to Tatum?

We'll have a deeper debate when I see you. I know I will

Watch out everybody!  BS is off his meds
again. :) ::) 8)