NDNWarrior

Just gonna throw this out there, but do you think it would be such a bad idea if after the Board decides on the final two, that maybe, the two applicants could meet with the Senior players as well and let the players get thier take on the applicants? This before a final decision has been made. I don't know if it has ever been done, was just putting a thought out there.

I think it would be between Garrett and Faircloth, IMO.

I kinda feel the same way. You need to STAY where your "heart" is.

I feel it should be the top 2, no more. I agree with bmckinney in that those schools with a large traveling fan base means more money.

A good portion of that scrutiny that you say they have to endure, is dished out right here on this message board. I am in no way saying that the message board is the problem. We all know the problem. People who feel they have been wronged by such things as playing time is the problem. That, and people who think the coach should be able to win the thoroughbred race riding a donkey. Now, that is putting things into perspective! I guess we all tend to ride our "donkey's" at times while expecting to be winners......!

I agree with you, 91bears. Why would he leave a program that he has built up and has had success with. I don't think its a "money" thing. There has to be something there that doesn't meet the eye.

91bears, you are sooo right!!!! Ticks me off when in the stands I hear some "in the stands" pretend coach yelling as if he/she could do any better.

Best of luck to Coach Stowers.

A lot of pressure these days being a Head Coach. My hat goes off to these guys and the scrutiny they have to endure.

You're right, if you look at the total number of years each school has been in existance. PN-G has WAAAY more playoff games and wins just simply because the Indians have been around for nearly a century. However, if you look at playoff percentages in the 27 West Brook has existed, then West Brook has been alot more successful than PN-G. Not only in making the postseason, but winning in the postseason as well. BTW, just as a side note, PN-G is 0-8 lifetime against West Brook. They are 5a we are 4a that is to be expected. Come on guys PNG is a great program why all the attempts to discredit us I think WB is also. I don't understand why there is so much "hate" toward PNG...seriously, I don't. We're just trying to get the BEST coach for our program.......other schools would be doing the same.

Skirtin the issue put out on the table. Fair question: elaborate...."Whats coming at PNG?" "Avoid PNG like the plague." If you put out there on the table, you should be able to back it up. PNG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Honor...........Pride..............Tradition..............'Priceless'

I would like to know "whats coming" as well. Care to elaborate?

.....and the domino's begin to tumble.....

Here's an article I found on Faircloth from this past November: [Hidden Content]

Just curious......not about Stump, but was wonderin, did Faircloth go to Permian and return there as a coach?

Trying to free up another 90,000 a year? Hmmm...... ???

Well...It's not an opinion, it's a fact. He wants a state title. I've explained the situation a few other times on this board. It's that simple. PS His wife is Assistant Superintendant in Charge of Curriculum. Ok, thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize Danaher didn't want the list released. Thanks, again.

It doesn't really matter what ANYBODY thinks...except for those seven people hired to make the decision. Young Coach, you definitely got that right !

Just puttin this out there.....Danaher definitely has the record and would be a good coach. As far as moving, I believe his wife is a curriculum specialist for the CC school district and was at one time an Assistant Principal. So, its clear that she has a career as well. Now, I've heard he may have applied as a leverage to get more money from CC, but, I think he would have to consider his wife's career as well. Anyone else have an opinion along this line?

I have to agree with you on that, Lamar1996. If a man can stay in the same area and make a move for more money, especially if it is in the same profession he has been in, he would probably move. The economics of the situation would dictate that.

I guess thats one way to have leverage in getting a raise! BISD has decided to pay Stump what Stowers was making and he will be coaching both Central and WB. That is the only way they can afford to pay him what he told PNG he wanted. So, this is true, Stump WON"T consider PNG? My bad, living in Mid County, I was thinking of Central as a middle school....ok....this thread is beginning to have some wear and tear! ;D

I guess thats one way to have leverage in getting a raise! BISD has decided to pay Stump what Stowers was making and he will be coaching both Central and WB. That is the only way they can afford to pay him what he told PNG he wanted. So, this is true, Stump WON"T consider PNG?

Looks like it should be re-titled to Danaher and Garrett. Word is that Stump will be staying at Westbrook, but can't get it confirmed.

That's a legitimate point. I know this because my wife is a teacher. True, and most of the kids could care less about the TAKS until it is their 11th grade exit TAKS, and they need to it walk. The problem the ISD's have with getting rid of teachers is, who are they going to get to replace the ones they let go? Math and science teachers don't grow on trees....Heck, it is getting harder to find elementary teachers. There is so much baloney in the teaching profession now, it is hard to find people who want to go into it, and even harder to find ones to stay. We have a young man who is teaching in our district, came into the district because of insurance, but because he has 4 kids, I look for him to leave at the end of the year. It is a combination of the baloney in the school business, and the fact he is working a second job to make ends meet. He told me if he went into his second job full time, he could triple his salary. I know in the Dallas-Ft Worth area the pay for teachers start in the $40,000 range, and while the schools within the Triangle pay (fairly) well, get outside into East Texas and the pay drops to basically state pay which is around $28,000. It is the old Adam Smith theory, if you don't pay enough, your workers will go to work for someone else, and unless there is some sort of a tie to the area, some of the best Lamar grads are going to Dallas,or Austin, or San Antonio....I have a son who is going to graduate from Lamar and is going to try and teach. He and most of his friends who are looking at teaching are already saying they are gone to Dallas, or Austin...It is the money and the fact why stay here? Listen, I know I am crabbing, and I actually like my job, but have told my son and my school kids who are thinking about teaching, see if you can do something else. It is just not the same as it was 10-15-20 years ago. Good Post, KDO. This is my 25th year as a teacher and I have seen a lot of changes. Something has got to be done about the pay scale for new teachers. I agree, districts will NOT attract good, quality teachers if they are not willing to pay them what they deserve. Students today are different and it seems the state is putting more and more pressure on teachers with TAKS. And now, in 2011, the TAKS will cease to exist and we go back to EOC (End of Course) exams. So, instead of teaching TAKS strategies for successs, which is what we have been doing masquerading as TEKS, we now have to make sure the students learn and master content. Its a vicious cycle. The power and creativity has been taken away from teachers. I teach high school Algebra and Calculus. It seems I spend so much time reviewing the basics just so that I can began to teach what I'm supposed to be teaching. The TAKS results rule right now, and you're right, it determines whether you keep your job or not.