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[quote name="TopFlight" post="1369634" timestamp="1359934001"] Well it should make for another great game. Gotta get there early too I wanna see  Nederlands freshman play..hearing a lot of good things from them...maybe I can [s]steal[/s]....errrr borrow some plays..haaha [/quote] Rumor has it that all 5 starting Freshman have been moved up to JV and starting for the JV team tonight. If this is true, i am glad to see it. They have been winning every game by 30 plus points and need to play older and bigger teams to make them better.  Good move IMO if this is True.....

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1369704" timestamp="1359982926"] I think Weisbrod had 29 and English had 22 last game. We only had 6 or 8 points from the rest of the team. We just gotta get some others involved offensively. If I remember right, English had 18 of his 22 in the 2nd half. I don't think he will wait that long to get started this time. [/quote] Yes i agree..... The odds that Weisbrod and English both have those type of numbers again are very low, but mainly because the rest of the team will step up and contribute more offensively this game. I think Lormier and Rogers both will have a big game for the dogs... Dogs by 5.  ;D  Also if we get in a situation late in the game and need to foul, please foul # 3 or there big man.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1369851" timestamp="1360005669"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108903.msg1369844#msg1369844 date=1360005339] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108903.msg1369841#msg1369841 date=1360004610] Such a nice gym and such a lousy lighting system. [/quote]Maybe you need to get your eyes checked ;) [/quote] If I do, then the other fifty people I have asked about it need to have theirs checked as well. [/quote] I agree with Nash... The lighting isn't very good but other than that, the gym is very nice.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1369658" timestamp="1359944580"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108903.msg1369656#msg1369656 date=1359944061] I have to go with Nederland in this one... I don't see a total of 4 points again by the other 3 seniors as they did in there first meeting.  I think those 3 boys have something to prove and will help contribute in this game. I predict Bulldogs by 5.  Go Dogs!!!!!! [/quote] I don't really think some of you realize Ozen's schedule this year and how they played against the top teams this year. They have played against at least 5-7 top ranked teams in the Greater Houston area. Ozen will do well against Nederland. [/quote] I agree, they will play well but will fall just short by 5.  ;D

I have to go with Nederland in this one... I don't see a total of 4 points again by the other 3 seniors as they did in there first meeting.  I think those 3 boys have something to prove and will help contribute in this game. I predict Bulldogs by 5.  Go Dogs!!!!!!

[quote name="png1977" post="1369174" timestamp="1359776380"] Ned freshmen won...pretty big, but not positive of score [/quote] Ok, Thanks.... Nederlands freshman group is pretty darn good.

Congrats Nederland!  How did the Freshman game go? I heard PNG just came off a big win vs Central and playing with a lot of confidence. Anyone have a final to this one?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1368306" timestamp="1359582885"] Question:  If any games were to be decided, I'm assuming it would be a neutral site? I think last year Central [color=black][size=14pt]GAVE[/size][/color] Nederland 1st place [/quote] More like scared to play Nederland. I call that a forfiet.  ;D

[quote name="bball2011" post="1366071" timestamp="1358947235"] I think at HJ and Kountze it's $1000 per school year...if you don't live in the district. I know of a few that are in the HJ program that don't live there in the lower levels... [/quote] Wow... This is news to me. I know that Nederland doesn't allow such a thing.  If you attended Nederland is because you live in the Nederland ISD zone.

[quote name="GoBigBlue1997" post="1366065" timestamp="1358944837"] [quote author=85' HUSKER link=topic=108406.msg1366039#msg1366039 date=1358917513] Just explaining how the open gym program works. How is that being bitter? It's a brilliant way to attract better athletes don't you think? At least coach knows this. Why else would we open the gym to anyone other than Nederland tax payers? Boy, if this gets you upset just wait til tomorrow. I just about have my list narrowed for the thread question --What's up with Nederland? I am going to explain things that not even coach understands. Stay tuned [/quote] [img][Hidden Content]] [/quote] LOL.... I have my popcorn ready also. Can't wait for Husker to explain things that not even coach English understands.  ::) LMAO..

[quote name="bball2011" post="1366030" timestamp="1358916851"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108406.msg1365659#msg1365659 date=1358865172] [quote author=bball2011 link=topic=108406.msg1365611#msg1365611 date=1358824608] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote] Doesn't Nederland have open enrollment? [/quote] We only have one HS within NISD, how can we have open enrollment? ??? [/quote]  do you know what open enrollment means...it means that a kid from any school district can pay a fee and go to that school, it does matter where they live. I'm not saying that there are any kids that are from other areas going to that school...cause I don't know...but the talent level has gotten better over there...you may can just credit that to the coach [/quote] Really? How much is this fee?  Nederland has had the talent for years, the majority of good athletes played Football and Baseball in years past.  The basketball program in years past is not what it is today!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365437" timestamp="1358735272"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365435#msg1365435 date=1358734984] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108406.msg1365432#msg1365432 date=1358734221] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365429#msg1365429 date=1358733847] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108406.msg1365426#msg1365426 date=1358733095] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365395#msg1365395 date=1358720854] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108406.msg1365388#msg1365388 date=1358719309] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams. [/quote] Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A. [/quote] So you want Ozen with its 1200 students and Central with its 1600 students to compete 5A? Your whole thought pattern is flawed. Once again meaningless... [/quote] The open enrollment is why i say they should be 5-A.  The Hunter boys could transfer to Central if they wanted or all the starters from Central could have chosen to attend Ozen. Some of the starters from WB could as well.  Yeah that's real fair for other 4-A schools in the district.  ::) Close the open enrollment and make kids go to the school in there school zone and i am good with it. [/quote] Really? So Nederland sports have never benefited from Port Arthur transfers? And none of what you're talking about has anything to do with how UIL classifies schools. [/quote] Not sure! Maybe, if so is because they moved into the area.  I know how UIL classifies schools, that's why i am stating my opinion. I think they have it all wrong. So you think Ozen would have won there state championships if they didn't have open enrollment? I will answer that... NO [/quote] Ozen only has ONE state championship. [/quote] Sorry! Championship... Thanks 

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365432" timestamp="1358734221"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365429#msg1365429 date=1358733847] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108406.msg1365426#msg1365426 date=1358733095] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365395#msg1365395 date=1358720854] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108406.msg1365388#msg1365388 date=1358719309] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams. [/quote] Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A. [/quote] So you want Ozen with its 1200 students and Central with its 1600 students to compete 5A? Your whole thought pattern is flawed. Once again meaningless... [/quote] The open enrollment is why i say they should be 5-A.  The Hunter boys could transfer to Central if they wanted or all the starters from Central could have chosen to attend Ozen. Some of the starters from WB could as well.  Yeah that's real fair for other 4-A schools in the district.  ::) Close the open enrollment and make kids go to the school in there school zone and i am good with it. [/quote] Really? So Nederland sports have never benefited from Port Arthur transfers? And none of what you're talking about has anything to do with how UIL classifies schools. [/quote] Not sure! Maybe, if so is because they moved into the area.  I know how UIL classifies schools, that's why i am stating my opinion. I think they have it all wrong. So you think Ozen would have won there state championships if they didn't have open enrollment? I will answer that... NO

I would love to see Ozen win this but just don't think it's going to happen. I have Central by 6. 

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365426" timestamp="1358733095"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365395#msg1365395 date=1358720854] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108406.msg1365388#msg1365388 date=1358719309] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams. [/quote] Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A. [/quote] So you want Ozen with its 1200 students and Central with its 1600 students to compete 5A? Your whole thought pattern is flawed. Once again meaningless... [/quote] The open enrollment is why i say they should be 5-A.  The Hunter boys could transfer to Central if they wanted or all the starters from Central could have chosen to attend Ozen. Some of the starters from WB could as well.  Yeah that's real fair for other 4-A schools in the district.  ::) Close the open enrollment and make kids go to the school in there school zone and i am good with it.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1365388" timestamp="1358719309"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams. [/quote] Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365345" timestamp="1358707223"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote] Ozen is one of the smallest schools in 20-4a according to enrollment numbers. Nederland is one of the larger schools in the district. This post is meaningless! [/quote] I am willing to bet that Ozen has kids right now "if you went by zone"  from Central and WB living zone areas. Who knows maybe even some Fannett boys. Right Dove? LOL 

I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1364874" timestamp="1358555622"] Ned Fresh up 57-18 after 3 Qs. They won by 20 or so. Don't remember score. 5 on 5 may know. [/quote] 67-47 was the final in the freshman game. Ned was up by nearly 40 at one point. The second group played in the fourth quarter.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365004" timestamp="1358568600"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1364957#msg1364957 date=1358564764] Too much Wileridge. Final: Central 50 Ned 40 [/quote] Amen....40 points not gonna win too many games [/quote] I agree... boys fought hard and had some open looks but couldn't buy a bucket....If they want to make a deep run in the playoffs they have to learn how to knock down open looks in big games.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1363414" timestamp="1358189826"] Just curious.....has our "savior" been identified yet?  I'm hoping to be able to get a good night sleep tonight [/quote] My best guess would be Washington....Someone on the forum said something about a 6"4 guy and rebounding. 

[quote name="understand" post="1363309" timestamp="1358135436"] I watch Nederland frosh get beat by MLK 8th graders by 40 pts last year without boyd in the MLK tournment but they or good but you guys start talking about 2016 and 2017 class thast like talking about what your kid done in little league man thats funny, lets hope your kids grow and stay healthy oh dont forget CENTRAL has two 6'4'' freshmans that are playing on a rank team now, and they or beating 2013 , 2014 and 2015 right now, man i want them all good also but UNDERSTAND you cant teach size and speed if you talk in truth VINCENT and SMITH has the best 8th graders ODOM with a few(dont let does 6 min quarters of basketball fool you) ps guess nederland frosh or going to AUSTIN [/quote] Your right! A lot can happen over the next 3-4 years. Even 1 year can make a big difference. One thing is for sure, this is not the same group that played MLK. I also think the MLk boys split and went to different high schools. Only time will tell. I just hope they all stay healthy. Should be some good battles and a lot of fun to watch.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1363252" timestamp="1358120551"] This is my first time hearing about the Nederland frosh whipping up on Ozen's Frosh. Sheez! This definitely gives you guys a false sense of security for 2016 in the coming seasons.  ;D [/quote] LOL... I realize that Boyd didn't play but it wouldn't have made a difference. Nederland was up by 26 at one point and ended up winning by 13 i think.  The freshman group has a lot of potential and will be very tough to beat in 2016.  ;D  ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1363229" timestamp="1358116398"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108148.msg1363167#msg1363167 date=1358108479] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363160#msg1363160 date=1358107098] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108148.msg1363153#msg1363153 date=1358106448] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363130#msg1363130 date=1358095942] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108148.msg1363129#msg1363129 date=1358095371] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363100#msg1363100 date=1358056424] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108148.msg1363091#msg1363091 date=1358053091] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1362916#msg1362916 date=1358027331] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108148.msg1362908#msg1362908 date=1358023817] That's very interesting information.  Didn't think of Nederland's 4 returning starters. [/quote]See Abe & other Nederland supporters, such lack of respect that Central had no clue you have 4 starters from last year. [/quote]Ain't no thing! It's more exciting to have to 'earn' respect every year. [/quote] [color=pink] 20-4A District Champs 2010-2012 Bi-District Champs 2010-2012 Area Champs 2010-2012 Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color] [/quote]::) ::) [/quote]Dimmer & dimmer  ;D [/quote] How many District titles do you have dove, since you have become a Panther?  Zero.... I predict it will still be zero for the next 3 years!  :o  :o [/quote]Here are my beliefs: Your only as good as your last game OR, its not how you Start but how you FINISH!!! I don't give a "flying flip" what was done last year or 10 years ago. Its all about NOW!!!! Production!!! [/quote] LOL... Easy there dove!  It seems i struck a nerve. I agree that each year you have to prove yourself and each year presents it's own challenges with new kids joining and leaving the team. With that being said I still don't see Ozen winning a District Title over the next 3 years IMO...Which i could be wrong. Ozen JV team has some big boys, so you never know. [/quote] The only nerve you struck was the fact that Nederland & HJ are winners, which puts them on my "hater list."  :D [/quote] lol.. Like wise.  Congrats to the Nederland Freshman team for there win over Ozen.  Did you get the chance to see that game Dove?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1363160" timestamp="1358107098"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108148.msg1363153#msg1363153 date=1358106448] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363130#msg1363130 date=1358095942] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108148.msg1363129#msg1363129 date=1358095371] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363100#msg1363100 date=1358056424] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108148.msg1363091#msg1363091 date=1358053091] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1362916#msg1362916 date=1358027331] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108148.msg1362908#msg1362908 date=1358023817] That's very interesting information.  Didn't think of Nederland's 4 returning starters. [/quote]See Abe & other Nederland supporters, such lack of respect that Central had no clue you have 4 starters from last year. [/quote]Ain't no thing! It's more exciting to have to 'earn' respect every year. [/quote] [color=pink] 20-4A District Champs 2010-2012 Bi-District Champs 2010-2012 Area Champs 2010-2012 Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012 Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/color] [/quote]::) ::) [/quote]Dimmer & dimmer  ;D [/quote] How many District titles do you have dove, since you have become a Panther?  Zero.... I predict it will still be zero for the next 3 years!  :o  :o [/quote]Here are my beliefs: Your only as good as your last game OR, its not how you Start but how you FINISH!!! I don't give a "flying flip" what was done last year or 10 years ago. Its all about NOW!!!! Production!!! [/quote] LOL... Easy there dove!  It seems i struck a nerve. I agree that each year you have to prove yourself and each year presents it's own challenges with new kids joining and leaving the team. With that being said I still don't see Ozen winning a District Title over the next 3 years IMO...Which i could be wrong. Ozen JV team has some big boys, so you never know.