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[quote name="DaytonBaseball101" post="1398490" timestamp="1367026280"] It was a good game . To bad creek fans and players don't have any respect . Let me rephrase that . Some , not gonna put all in that category . Will say that some of them , parents included need to be taken out behind the wood shed and taught some respect . Just remember you have to show respect to get it . Yall aren't getting anything from the broncos . [/quote] When there are fans that are disrespectful it really takes away from the game. I apologize on behalf of the SC family.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1398420" timestamp="1367021418"] Nederland Vidor Central PN-G --------- SC Dayton BH KP [/quote] You think dayton, bh, and kp would beat crosby? That would be insane. Maybe one out of those three but to way all of them. Other than that I think your idea of 20-4a is valid.

[quote name="TradinUp BH" post="1398168" timestamp="1366948349"] Early prediction for playoffs! Ned (D1 #1)  Vs. Dayton (D1 #2) Central (D1 #2) vs. SC (D1 #1) Ozen (D2 #1) vs. BH (D2 #2) Vidor (D2 #2) vs. Crosby (D2 #1) [/quote] My prediction would be: Ned (d1 #1) vs. KP (d1 #2) Central vs SC (same as yours) Vidor (d2 #1) vs. BH or Dayton (d2 #2) PNG (d2 #2) vs. Crosby (d2 #1) In that scenario I think it's most likely a 3-1 in favor of 19-4a with Ned with the lone victory for 20-4a in the bi-district.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1397849" timestamp="1366901453"] Humble Summer Creek Dakota Allen picked up 2 more offers. TCU and North Texas....that brings him to a total of 9! And it's still early. Congrats Dakota ! [/quote] Wow, that's incredible! Just goes to show the number of stars are meaningless when you work hard, and I think the scouts see that too.

[quote name="Richard Cranium" post="1397547" timestamp="1366817373"] Only 2 scrimmages allowed. [/quote] Teams with a week zero bye are allowed a third scrimmage, but png plays Silsbee that week.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1397413" timestamp="1366770725"] We're going to find out real quick the bi-district pecking order. We open with Ned in The Den and after we travel to Willis for our layup we go to BH, get Dayton at home and bookend it with SC in Turner. Call me crazy but I think we beat Ned at home in the opener, hammer Willis and BH and squeak by Dayton in Crosby. If we have any sort of defense we could be 4-0 playing SC for the district title week 5. We also get Kingwood Park at home this year. I'm predicting 9-1. Crosby's schedule [Hidden Content] [/quote] My thoughts exactly. Even if they don't win I think crosby surprises a lot of people in week zero.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1396728" timestamp="1366644536"] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109794.msg1396702#msg1396702 date=1366638971] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109794.msg1396549#msg1396549 date=1366520508] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109794.msg1396547#msg1396547 date=1366519969] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109794.msg1396543#msg1396543 date=1366516871] also, now that i think about it [b]21-6A[/b] could very well look like this: PAM, North Shore, La Porte, Channelview, Baytown Sterling, West Brook, Humble Summer Creek, Kingwood and Atascocita [/quote] If the cutoffs are low enough of course. [/quote] im thinking cutoff around 2060-2069. 2069 would be my guess for 6A. If 21-6A looks like that you got 6 teams off the bat that could challenge for a playoff spot. [/quote] That would b lower than the current cutoff for 5a, [b]so I'm a bit curious as to why you would expect it that low[/b]. I think it won't be any lower than 2200. In any case as an SC fan I'd be happy with them being in that district rather than the one the 5a humble isd schools are currently in, definitely. [/quote] Look at Highland Park enrollment. What ever their enrollment is, add +1 or more. [/quote] Yeah I got the joke, but there are a plenty of schools in 4a larger than Highland Park. The largest is Mission high, with 2084

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1396549" timestamp="1366520508"] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109794.msg1396547#msg1396547 date=1366519969] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109794.msg1396543#msg1396543 date=1366516871] also, now that i think about it [b]21-6A[/b] could very well look like this: PAM, North Shore, La Porte, Channelview, Baytown Sterling, West Brook, Humble Summer Creek, Kingwood and Atascocita [/quote] If the cutoffs are low enough of course. [/quote] im thinking cutoff around 2060-2069. 2069 would be my guess for 6A. If 21-6A looks like that you got 6 teams off the bat that could challenge for a playoff spot. [/quote] That would b lower than the current cutoff for 5a, so I'm a bit curious as to why you would expect it that low. I think it won't be any lower than 2200. In any case as an SC fan I'd be happy with them being in that district rather than the one the 5a humble isd schools are currently in, definitely.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1396543" timestamp="1366516871"] also, now that i think about it [b]21-6A[/b] could very well look like this: PAM, North Shore, La Porte, Channelview, Baytown Sterling, West Brook, Humble Summer Creek, Kingwood and Atascocita [/quote] If the cutoffs are low enough of course.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1394595" timestamp="1366069265"] Heard Padilla put out some interesting stuff today about 6A, maybe way smaller in numbers than most thought. [/quote] That was the hunch that I had about the new 6a. I thought it would be used to isolate the powerhouse 5a schools, but the uil is so unpredictable that it probably won't be quite like that.

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1394940" timestamp="1366158072"] None. They don't belong, and there is no need to "replace" them. The playoffs should proceed with only the teams that [u]deserve[/u] to be there. [/quote] Without replacing those teams there is a structural issue with the brackets unless you give the teams that would have played them in the first round a bye. That would work too I suppose.

I think a better question is, "If sub .500 teams were to be taken out of the playoffs, which teams would take their place (what criteria would the uil use to determine who gets those spots in the playoffs)?"

21-15 K-park final

I might be getting off topic here but just a quick question for my pals from SC or anyone who wants to chime in. Does anyone know who is the front runner for the backup qb spot behind Sharp as of now? Blackman is graduating in May, so I was just a bit curious.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1390880" timestamp="1364947599"] [quote author=ram0524 link=topic=110696.msg1390855#msg1390855 date=1364941518] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390843#msg1390843 date=1364938537] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390700#msg1390700 date=1364907589] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390686#msg1390686 date=1364888045] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=110696.msg1390683#msg1390683 date=1364879940] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390466#msg1390466 date=1364825523] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=110696.msg1390433#msg1390433 date=1364789176] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=110696.msg1390247#msg1390247 date=1364690706] You gotta throw sc and Crosby in there. Sc with there qb and two receivers back and that transfer running back. And Crosby with the twins and that tight end coming back. If they find a defense they would be serious contenders in D2. [/quote] Why do you think D2 is so much easier?  To me it's all the same. [/quote] In my opinion there are a lot more tougher teams in D1 than in D2. At least it was that way last year. I'm not saying that all teams in D2 are push overs. I'm just saying D1 has a lot more powerhouse teams. IMO that is. [/quote]I agree, the reason D2 is easier is because of the enrollment. Georgetown won 3 or 4 games in 5a before realignment. The powerhouse teams like Dawson, Georgetown, Summer Creek, and 4a state champ Denton Guyer all have enrollments around 2000 or above. All things being equal an extra 5-600 kids makes a big difference. Division 2 teams are usually within a couple hundred kids of each other which makes for less disparity between the teams. [/quote] Then how do you explain some small schools consistently beating bigger schools or even schools from a lager classification?  BTW, I wouldn't consider Georgetown and SC powerhouses yet.  Nothing against them, but SC has one playoff win and Georgetown had one good year.  Dawson is proven, but that's about it.  Even they lose to a few smaller schools. [/quote] Which smaller schools are you talking about?? [/quote] Brenham, LaMarque, Navasota, Stephenville & Dayton.  Those schools have under 1,500 students and have consistently beat schools with a 2000+ enrollment. [/quote] Forgot about Ned [/quote]i guess i have a different definition of consistently then. ned is the perfect example. i read an article earlier this year by some guy who had ned winning the region and cedar park winning the state championship saying cedar park was the best 4a team in the state. at the time ned was like 3-1 and cedar park was 2-2 so naturally i thought this guy was off his rocker and wasn't going to read that trash anymore. ned played for a regional crown in d1 and cedar park won the state 4a crown in d2. he also said, ''with teams like guyer, georgetown'' and some san antonio school ''dropping down they should already have a playoff spot reserved''. georgetown has been in the 5a cellar the last couple of years, they won 15 games in 4a last year. i'm not at all being confrontational but what 4a playoff teams with 2000 kids has ned consistently beat. there's a single win over dawson but 2 losses to 2k enrollment schools, before that it was consecutive first round losses to crosby. not even the great la marque could consistently beat 2k enrollment dawson and manvel in the district and especially playoff time. what team like that has dayton beat. of course a good 4a team can beat the 5a teams like [b]atascosita[/b], chavez, reagan, and south houston but there's a difference between those high enrollment schools and a 4a district champ with 2000 kids. saying that i do believe any team can be beat a a given night. [/quote] Atascocita is probably a bad example, they as well as Kingwood got slaughtered by the likes of Westfield and other schools 1000+ higher enrollment in 13-5a. I feel like just about anyone aside from a 5a powerhouse would experience a similar fate.

[quote name="badndn" post="1390437" timestamp="1364817397"] Newton is the only legit shot. Nederland will be local great, but not state great. SC defense not good enough to win it all. Silsbee returns a good team, but great teams win state titles! [/quote] SC does play pretty good defense in the regular season but the problem the past two years is that defense hasn't shown up in the post season, particularly against offenses that are better than they are used to seeing.

[quote name="usedtobe" post="1390379" timestamp="1364777890"] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390348#msg1390348 date=1364771732] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109283.msg1390330#msg1390330 date=1364763719] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390255#msg1390255 date=1364692608] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390237#msg1390237 date=1364685288] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390227#msg1390227 date=1364680835] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390189#msg1390189 date=1364664129] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390118#msg1390118 date=1364598826] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390088#msg1390088 date=1364586958] i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find hisself down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running. [/quote] He can find himself down the dept chart at any school, he just have to keep working hard. I've seen some of the best QBs ride the bench, remember only one QB on field....Cougar14, you do know majority of the time the ball is thrown between the Lineman not over them? So what college you think would best fit Sharp, in your opinion? I read where Boise St is recruiting him, what do you think of them? And is it true Raelon is leaning toward Utes? [/quote]First off, when I say over the linemen I mean anywhere between the tackles or tight end and tackle. In other words anywhere a ball can be batted at the line of scrimmage. Second, if  you're the best qb on the team you don't ride the bench and if you do that means you aren't the best qb on the team. Maybe you've seen kids with good high school numbers ride the bench but they weren't the best qb on the team. I didn't see him on Boise St.'s boards but he's got an invite to UCLA's camp and I see he's in consideration for offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I think Boise St. would be perfect for his skill set though because he's a lot like Kellen Moore with better wheels, he's even a southpaw like Moore. So far as the schools that offered though I think UH is the best fit with the style offense they run. I think the dream scenario for Sharp would be Texas Tech (who has a soft verbal from DJ Gillen) or Louisana Tech. [/quote] Yea I know what you mean, but they have Qbs whose ball are batted down anyway, regardless of the formation. And yes they have really good Qbs on the bench in college. Not because they only did well in HS, but they were good in college, but had their spot take end due to an injury and wasn't able to get it back. That just like Alex Smith in the NFL, he got hurt but because Kap did so well when he got a shot, it's his job. That is what I'm talking about. You have some of the best QBs on the bench because only 1 is on the field. And you never answered about Raelon. Where is he leaning, along with the twins? [/quote]Austin was saying he is getting ready to make decision and they are intent on going to the same school so I would think Rice for the twins even though they hold dual offers from Yale. It's a perfect offense for Austin, I think he can what McGuffie was supposed to. Only issue is I think as more kids commit over the Spring and Summer Austin could pick up 4 or 5 more ULL or WAC conference type offers and if he can measure at the 5'7" or higher mark some point during the offseason he's going to get serious consideration from the Big 12. As far as I know Singleton is still taking offers but this was a kid we were talking about couldn't catch at the beginning of the year. He already has offers from Colorado St., Utah, San Diego St., and UH but I think once he hits the camp circuit this offseason and shows his improved catching prowess he's going to get some Big 12 offers so I don't expect him to commit anytime soon. [/quote] I'm sure the twins will choose Yale huh. Rice is just too close to home. Sometimes you can't wait to choose a college during your senior year, especially as a QB...if Aston gonna play Qb in college, which I heard that is what he's looking to do, he will have to commit soon. They just don't wait around anymore, those offers leave fast for QBs...can Raelon catch now? I know colleges like tall wrs and he's 6'5..... [/quote] Well Yale doesn't offer athletic scholarships so they would have to pick up some academic scholarships (which I'm sure they would, I've heard they are really smart) but I could see them doing well at Rice as well. [/quote] Yes they are very smart, but the twin QB wants to play QB in college, and Rice is not offering Qb position, only Yale...they already have an offer from Yale [/quote] Firstly, I don't know.  But someone is mistaken about Yale.  One says they have been offered, the other says Yale doesn't do athletic scholarships - so what is it?  I don't have a dog in this fight but I would like to know the REAL situation.  Maybe Yale has extended an invitation and is going to help out someway, academically, with the tuition, etc.  Anybody have the REAL story? [/quote] On rivals it shows one of the twins being offered by Yale but it can't be solely an athletic scholarship because that would be against ivy league policy, so he was probably offered a spot on the team and maybe an academic scholarship or two. I don't have the actual story so I'm just guessing that is what it is.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1390255" timestamp="1364692608"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390237#msg1390237 date=1364685288] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390227#msg1390227 date=1364680835] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390189#msg1390189 date=1364664129] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1390118#msg1390118 date=1364598826] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1390088#msg1390088 date=1364586958] i'm not saying he's good just because of the system he's in but i am saying a spread is what he needs to play in in college. sharp would have good high school numbers anywhere because of his athleticism and accuracy. most non-sec teams rum some type of spread anyway though. having to take a drop from under center, read and sometime reset could expose his deficiencies. you also have to throw over the offensive line more from in a pro system which isn't good for his current trajectory. i'm just saying there's a timmy chang, zac robinson type feel about sharp where he needs to be in a situation that benefits his skill set or he could find hisself down the the depth chart behind a kid more accustomed to what they're running. [/quote] He can find himself down the dept chart at any school, he just have to keep working hard. I've seen some of the best QBs ride the bench, remember only one QB on field....Cougar14, you do know majority of the time the ball is thrown between the Lineman not over them? So what college you think would best fit Sharp, in your opinion? I read where Boise St is recruiting him, what do you think of them? And is it true Raelon is leaning toward Utes? [/quote]First off, when I say over the linemen I mean anywhere between the tackles or tight end and tackle. In other words anywhere a ball can be batted at the line of scrimmage. Second, if  you're the best qb on the team you don't ride the bench and if you do that means you aren't the best qb on the team. Maybe you've seen kids with good high school numbers ride the bench but they weren't the best qb on the team. I didn't see him on Boise St.'s boards but he's got an invite to UCLA's camp and I see he's in consideration for offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I think Boise St. would be perfect for his skill set though because he's a lot like Kellen Moore with better wheels, he's even a southpaw like Moore. So far as the schools that offered though I think UH is the best fit with the style offense they run. I think the dream scenario for Sharp would be Texas Tech (who has a soft verbal from DJ Gillen) or Louisana Tech. [/quote] Yea I know what you mean, but they have Qbs whose ball are batted down anyway, regardless of the formation. And yes they have really good Qbs on the bench in college. Not because they only did well in HS, but they were good in college, but had their spot take end due to an injury and wasn't able to get it back. That just like Alex Smith in the NFL, he got hurt but because Kap did so well when he got a shot, it's his job. That is what I'm talking about. You have some of the best QBs on the bench because only 1 is on the field. And you never answered about Raelon. Where is he leaning, along with the twins? [/quote]Austin was saying he is getting ready to make decision and they are intent on going to the same school so I would think Rice for the twins even though they hold dual offers from Yale. It's a perfect offense for Austin, I think he can what McGuffie was supposed to. Only issue is I think as more kids commit over the Spring and Summer Austin could pick up 4 or 5 more ULL or WAC conference type offers and if he can measure at the 5'7" or higher mark some point during the offseason he's going to get serious consideration from the Big 12. As far as I know Singleton is still taking offers but this was a kid we were talking about couldn't catch at the beginning of the year. He already has offers from Colorado St., Utah, San Diego St., and UH but I think once he hits the camp circuit this offseason and shows his improved catching prowess he's going to get some Big 12 offers so I don't expect him to commit anytime soon. [/quote] I'm sure the twins will choose Yale huh. Rice is just too close to home. Sometimes you can't wait to choose a college during your senior year, especially as a QB...if Aston gonna play Qb in college, which I heard that is what he's looking to do, he will have to commit soon. They just don't wait around anymore, those offers leave fast for QBs...can Raelon catch now? I know colleges like tall wrs and he's 6'5..... [/quote] Well Yale doesn't offer athletic scholarships so they would have to pick up some academic scholarships (which I'm sure they would, I've heard they are really smart) but I could see them doing well at Rice as well.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1390274" timestamp="1364696503"] ahhh how could i forget: for the big school side i'd say La Porte on paper, they have their QB back, 2 RBs that had a good amount of playing time last year and a great defense. [b]the sleeper in 5A IMO would be Deer Park[/b]. [/quote] That would be quite the story, lol

Dumb... Will not improve safety whatsoever. Our state legislature just wants to avoid spending money on improving equipment. But that conversation is for the political boards of course.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1389912" timestamp="1364527180"] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109592.msg1389705#msg1389705 date=1364504598] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109592.msg1389696#msg1389696 date=1364502240] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109592.msg1389634#msg1389634 date=1364488259] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=109592.msg1389599#msg1389599 date=1364480971] [quote author=OctFeb link=topic=109592.msg1389588#msg1389588 date=1364479838] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=109592.msg1389581#msg1389581 date=1364477222] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109592.msg1389551#msg1389551 date=1364442638] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1389535#msg1389535 date=1364436393] SC will score points with or without the pickup from CK. I think SC will have a hard time making a deep playoff run unless they can shore up their defense. In their 2 playoff games they gave up over 900 yds of offense including over 450 to vidor. [b]I look for SC and crosby too compete for the district title but neither one has a good enough defense to go really deep in the playoffs[/b]. [/quote] I got it out of Dayton and SC. actually i see the playoffs looking like this: 1. SC, 2. Dayton, 3. The Barbies, 4. Kingwood Park [/quote]I was thinkng the same thing but maybe [b]Crosby battling it out with KP for fourth![/b] [/quote] uh oh... wait for it... cougar14 AKA coug8bronco gonna weigh in on that comment.. with some stats I bet. Because we all know that stats will win the game every time.  :P [/quote] ;D ;D ;D [/quote]Had it not been for a second half collapse to Manor in which we were up 11 at the break I think the team from last year would have won the region just like they did. They say defense wins championships but if you read the article on DC's where the guy did research on some of the state semi-final teams and actually showed more often than not it's offense that wins you championships. Crosby is bringing back 14 players including 8 starters on an offense that averaged 377.8 yards and 23 points on the 6 playoff teams they faced and 40.8 points and 448 yards on the non-playoff teams they played. While Crosby gave up a respectable 372.5 ypg to their playoff opponents they relinquished 33 points to go with it, 186.5 and 8.5 to non-playoff opponents. Most people would say it's defense and on the surface it is but I would accredit it more to the 26 underclassmen Crosby had on the varsity last year plus it being the kid's first year with a new system and coaching staff. With Dayton still being young while losing Chambers and McBride, BH's best player in Denny probably not going to play football(weren't going to win anyway), if we can catch SC before they can fully incorporate Jeffery and [b]Sharp can adjust to the loss of his two favorite targets Holden and Johnson [/b]I think barring a Baytown Lee-type loss like the one that cost us a district championship two years ago we could take the 19-4a crown. I think it goes 1. SC/Crosby 2. Crosby/SC 3. Dayton/KP 4. KP/Dayton [/quote] SC lost Hogan and Ruffin, Johnson will be back! Along with Jeffrey who is WR , and 2 other 6'4 WRs who are coming right along :) [/quote] You think Jeffery will play WR? Also, I know Holt-Washington is 6'4 but which other WR is 6'4? [/quote] From my understanding that is what Jeffrey been playing, Washington is 6'4 and the kid Bucket is prob 6'3 almost 6'4.....and then we have McNeil at 6'2, we still have Wheeler at 6'1 who was 2nd team All district, we will still have a passing game.....I'm expecting the coaches to run Sharp a lil bit more this year, but we still have a loaded Backfield in Braden and [b]Chatman[/b] [/quote] hmm, I would have thought they would move Braden to WR before they would put Jeffrey there considering how he thrived as a shotgun RB at King. So they moved Chatman back to RB huh, I thought it was kind of weird that he was listed as a TE last season.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1389920" timestamp="1364527778"] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109283.msg1389712#msg1389712 date=1364505724] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1389490#msg1389490 date=1364416424] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109283.msg1389003#msg1389003 date=1364328559] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388730#msg1388730 date=1364245078] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1388661#msg1388661 date=1364231213] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388592#msg1388592 date=1364221386] Can someone from Summer Creek confirm or deny that Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer from University of Houston? If so that's his [b]best offer[/b] to date but I only got one source saying that's the case. Very hard to get a big time FBS offer at quarterback in the state this year. Unlike last class this one is loaded, could be another like Stafford, Snead, Dalton, Ponder, and McElroy. That's 4 qbs that started an nfl game last year from one high school class in Texas. [/quote] COugar14, why are you saying that's his best offer? Are you a Crosby COUGAR or Houston COUGAR  :D [/quote]because utah and colorado are cellar dwellers in the pac 12. at houston he would actually be able to compete for conference championships and play in a good bowl game. utah is going to be lucky to play in a bowl game in the next few years. sharp does remind me of the old utah qb brian johnson from crosby who transfered and played a year at lee before going to utah and being the sugar bowl mvp after he sliced up alabama. sharp should a few more good offers before the season starts but the upper level programs in the state can pick and choose this year 'cause of the qb depth in this class. plus i think with sharp recruiters are saying he has to play in a finesse spread-style offense like he does at sc due to the fact he has [b]average arm strength at best[/b]. i also think he's scaring some people with that awkward throwing motion, if you type in ''aaron sharp 247'' they have some pictures of him throwing and you can see what i'm saying. he should be releasing the ball way higher than he does, looks like it hurts his elbow. hard to argue with his production on the field though so he'll still end up with probably 7-10 offers. one other great thing about sharp is he doesn't turn the ball over either. [/quote] I'm not sure what is average at the college level, but I once saw Sharp chuck the ball from the 35 yard line at one end of the field into the endzone on the other side of the field in practice. And that was when he was a freshman. [/quote]That would have been pretty cool to see a little freshman throw the varsity ball over 65 yards, most varsity qbs can't do that when their freshman in college. Arm strength is a five step drop throwing a 15 yards out from the opposite hash mark with a corner breaking on it. Sharp is a UH, Texas Tech, Baylor, West Virginia type spread qb who's going to beat you at the line of scrimmage with his head, timing and experience. He doesn't spin it like Stafford, Luck, Dalton, Ponder, Foles or Mallet. He's more Case Keenum, Nick Florence, or Kliff Kingsburry than RG3 and Geno Smith. Maybe he's Colt McCoy or Matt Lienhart though, two successful big time college qbs that had average at best arms. Sharp is strictly a spread guy who I think could put up ridiculous numbers at a place like UH or La Tech. Just hard to get an offer to one of the Texas Big 12 schools or SEC with the qb talent in the state but I see he is in consideration for a Tech and Baylor offer. He's still got to be on some other C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt team type radars too. [/quote] Oh ok thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure what you meant by average arm. But yeah in that case I think you are right, but I wouldn't write him off as a [b]system qb[/b] too soon. I've been impressed with how well he executes play-action out of SC's pro-style package, so I think if he can correct the mechanical flaws he could be pretty solid in just about any system, but I guess that's still to early to tell. [/quote] is that what Cougar14 is trying to say?? a system kid is a kid who is doing well only because of the system he is in....the system he is in is first of all not finesse, although Ford let him throw just about every pass, I honestly believe we have players and especially our backs are spread guys. sharp does well in the pro style formation as well, but the plays are easy to read in that formation....yes he still need to work mechanics, but as a Freshman his mechanics were horrible. He has shown tremendous improvement compared to Freshman season...I think with a decent line, Sharp can play in Shotgun, under center, etc....he just has to keep working like EVERY Qb does [/quote] Couldn't have said it better myself. I think he said Sharp is a spread qb comparatively to a Case Keenum/Graham Harrell type, but yeah I think that Sharp would look good in any system.

[quote name="cougar14" post="1389490" timestamp="1364416424"] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=109283.msg1389003#msg1389003 date=1364328559] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388730#msg1388730 date=1364245078] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=109283.msg1388661#msg1388661 date=1364231213] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109283.msg1388592#msg1388592 date=1364221386] Can someone from Summer Creek confirm or deny that Aaron Sharp just picked up an offer from University of Houston? If so that's his [b]best offer[/b] to date but I only got one source saying that's the case. Very hard to get a big time FBS offer at quarterback in the state this year. Unlike last class this one is loaded, could be another like Stafford, Snead, Dalton, Ponder, and McElroy. That's 4 qbs that started an nfl game last year from one high school class in Texas. [/quote] COugar14, why are you saying that's his best offer? Are you a Crosby COUGAR or Houston COUGAR  :D [/quote]because utah and colorado are cellar dwellers in the pac 12. at houston he would actually be able to compete for conference championships and play in a good bowl game. utah is going to be lucky to play in a bowl game in the next few years. sharp does remind me of the old utah qb brian johnson from crosby who transfered and played a year at lee before going to utah and being the sugar bowl mvp after he sliced up alabama. sharp should a few more good offers before the season starts but the upper level programs in the state can pick and choose this year 'cause of the qb depth in this class. plus i think with sharp recruiters are saying he has to play in a finesse spread-style offense like he does at sc due to the fact he has [b]average arm strength at best[/b]. i also think he's scaring some people with that awkward throwing motion, if you type in ''aaron sharp 247'' they have some pictures of him throwing and you can see what i'm saying. he should be releasing the ball way higher than he does, looks like it hurts his elbow. hard to argue with his production on the field though so he'll still end up with probably 7-10 offers. one other great thing about sharp is he doesn't turn the ball over either. [/quote] I'm not sure what is average at the college level, but I once saw Sharp chuck the ball from the 35 yard line at one end of the field into the endzone on the other side of the field in practice. And that was when he was a freshman. [/quote]That would have been pretty cool to see a little freshman throw the varsity ball over 65 yards, most varsity qbs can't do that when their freshman in college. Arm strength is a five step drop throwing a 15 yards out from the opposite hash mark with a corner breaking on it. Sharp is a UH, Texas Tech, Baylor, West Virginia type spread qb who's going to beat you at the line of scrimmage with his head, timing and experience. He doesn't spin it like Stafford, Luck, Dalton, Ponder, Foles or Mallet. He's more Case Keenum, Nick Florence, or Kliff Kingsburry than RG3 and Geno Smith. Maybe he's Colt McCoy or Matt Lienhart though, two successful big time college qbs that had average at best arms. Sharp is strictly a spread guy who I think could put up ridiculous numbers at a place like UH or La Tech. Just hard to get an offer to one of the Texas Big 12 schools or SEC with the qb talent in the state but I see he is in consideration for a Tech and Baylor offer. He's still got to be on some other C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt team type radars too. [/quote] Oh ok thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure what you meant by average arm. But yeah in that case I think you are right, but I wouldn't write him off as a system qb too soon. I've been impressed with how well he executes play-action out of SC's pro-style package, so I think if he can correct the mechanical flaws he could be pretty solid in just about any system, but I guess that's still to early to tell.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1389696" timestamp="1364502240"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=109592.msg1389634#msg1389634 date=1364488259] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=109592.msg1389599#msg1389599 date=1364480971] [quote author=OctFeb link=topic=109592.msg1389588#msg1389588 date=1364479838] [quote author=BellBiz30 link=topic=109592.msg1389581#msg1389581 date=1364477222] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109592.msg1389551#msg1389551 date=1364442638] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=109592.msg1389535#msg1389535 date=1364436393] SC will score points with or without the pickup from CK. I think SC will have a hard time making a deep playoff run unless they can shore up their defense. In their 2 playoff games they gave up over 900 yds of offense including over 450 to vidor. [b]I look for SC and crosby too compete for the district title but neither one has a good enough defense to go really deep in the playoffs[/b]. [/quote] I got it out of Dayton and SC. actually i see the playoffs looking like this: 1. SC, 2. Dayton, 3. The Barbies, 4. Kingwood Park [/quote]I was thinkng the same thing but maybe [b]Crosby battling it out with KP for fourth![/b] [/quote] uh oh... wait for it... cougar14 AKA coug8bronco gonna weigh in on that comment.. with some stats I bet. Because we all know that stats will win the game every time.  :P [/quote] ;D ;D ;D [/quote]Had it not been for a second half collapse to Manor in which we were up 11 at the break I think the team from last year would have won the region just like they did. They say defense wins championships but if you read the article on DC's where the guy did research on some of the state semi-final teams and actually showed more often than not it's offense that wins you championships. Crosby is bringing back 14 players including 8 starters on an offense that averaged 377.8 yards and 23 points on the 6 playoff teams they faced and 40.8 points and 448 yards on the non-playoff teams they played. While Crosby gave up a respectable 372.5 ypg to their playoff opponents they relinquished 33 points to go with it, 186.5 and 8.5 to non-playoff opponents. Most people would say it's defense and on the surface it is but I would accredit it more to the 26 underclassmen Crosby had on the varsity last year plus it being the kid's first year with a new system and coaching staff. With Dayton still being young while losing Chambers and McBride, BH's best player in Denny probably not going to play football(weren't going to win anyway), if we can catch SC before they can fully incorporate Jeffery and [b]Sharp can adjust to the loss of his two favorite targets Holden and Johnson [/b]I think barring a Baytown Lee-type loss like the one that cost us a district championship two years ago we could take the 19-4a crown. I think it goes 1. SC/Crosby 2. Crosby/SC 3. Dayton/KP 4. KP/Dayton [/quote] SC lost Hogan and Ruffin, Johnson will be back! Along with Jeffrey who is WR , and 2 other 6'4 WRs who are coming right along :) [/quote] You think Jeffery will play WR? Also, I know Holt-Washington is 6'4 but which other WR is 6'4?

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1389681" timestamp="1364500260"] stats and records really mean nothing come playoff time honestly, that is [b]IF[/b] you can get in. [/quote] I think you kind of have to look at the teams they played. For example, G-town's stats from last season look really good considering the district they played in compared to say north forest who put up seemingly more impressive statistics but played in the weakest district in the state.