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And lest I offend anyone, I like to rib EC about their “Beaumont kids,” more so because they seemed to most vocal about their problems with HF. But for the record, Todd Sutherland is as fine a man as you want to meet and , like Clay, I would have loved for my own sons to play for him. And he will also go down as one of the greats in this state (and honestly the country) at doing his job. How many can say that?

Thank you. Feel like I’m beating my head against the wall over here.

Yeah that must be it - smh.

It was no secret what the main qualification of the next coach needed to be. It was said while CT was there, after he retired, and during the hiring process. I won’t say all of those making the decisions were on board with it but the Sup and enough of the board was. I’m sure you can figure out what that was - it’s been stated on this board multiple times.

You guys do understand WHY the current hire was made, right? It’s been hashed out ad nauseam I mean it wasn’t a big secret what the main qualification being considered was. So in the process, some better qualified, better fits were passed over, at least in mine and others’ opinions. I feel sorry for the kids but think that those pushing that agenda are getting what they deserve. If that’s confusing for some, my apologies.

The quoted portion is probably a better explanation. WOSdrummer also weighed in. Honestly at this point, I don’t know if you are being purposely obtuse or just incapable of understanding the point.

Sort of. I have no ill will towards the coaching staff. I don’t know anything negative about any of them as individuals and would have been happy if they had succeeded or even if they did from here. Some of the administration and some of the Mustang faithful are getting their just desserts imo. So I don’t see it as rooting “against the kids.” I hope all kids find success - I just find karma toward those mentioned to be somewhat satisfying.

One thing I can assure you of, little buddy. It’s doubtful you know anyone who has invested more in the kids (when it’s not their job to do so) than me over the years. And that includes time and money. And there are multiple people on this board that can attest to that. But keep thinking you know what you’re talking about. After all, ignorance is supposedly bliss.

I will admit that last night’s game had some extra involved for me. Although BC is the unquestionably the biggest rival of the school where my kids went, I have several friends with kids playing for the Cardinals including one of my best friends. And I greatly respect the job Coach Landry has done after being thrust in a pretty difficult position.

In all fairness he’s from Lumberton (which makes a lot more sense). They have no clue what it’s like to have one of the best programs in the history of the state be torn apart by adults. The kids are the innocent ones. It IS a fine line but sometimes in life, I have to admit I enjoy seeing a little karma at work. I do hope that this somehow gets put back together for the sake of the KIDs. But I fear that is easier said than done.

I’m more concerned about your concern about who I root for and/or against (which again, isn’t the kids). Thanks for your concern though, Sport. I do appreciate it. On the other hand, “good luck living life” struggling with the simplest of concepts…

Honestly I had no preconceptions about the guy but I think most of us are pleasantly surprised.

Well I’m not rooting against kids. I’m rooting against the idiots who thought they knew better and obviously didn’t. If you’re one of those guys, sorry for you. If you’re not, just shake that pom pom hard enough for both of us.

I was talking more Golden Triangle-ish. You are 100 percent correct that any rankings should include all coverage area teams. But I don’t think of the Houston area schools as SETX which is more what I was talking about (your description of Orange, Jefferson, Hardin is prob most descript, but I was also thinking chambers, jasper and newton counties).

I thought kids were playing on both teams each week? No?

I have a sneaking suspicion you are dead on 😂

I would love to hear his rationale for that. It’s gonna be wrong but I’d love to hear it.

No doubt. But I was still rooting for them. I used to root for WOS in every game but one every year. Now I kind of root for them to get what they deserve. Except for the kids - they don’t deserve any of this.

Nah, this is a west orange team that plays to the level of its competition. Jasper isn’t close to Silsbee talent-wise, and that was a close one. My guess is Jasper in a close one but if they blow WOS out, the mustangs have officially quit.

I would defer to several on this board who have seen these teams more than I have. But I would think that arguments could be made for several different orders with the top 4 (imo) in this area, i.e., United, Silsbee, WB and Memorial. Personally, I like @whsalum’s order but I could see it going many different ways. But they all have a ton of talent and are well coached.

And Sutherland has taken a step back since HF has taken a decent share of his recruiting pool. To be fair, if Sutherland is the barometer most replacements would be a “step back.” But it’s kind of like having Dan Ray and Cornel back to back at WOS football. Maybe not to quite that extent but similar imo. Unlike some of the Mustang faithful though, it appears to me that the Hawk folks are aware and thankful for what they have. Not surprising though as they are probably the most astute hoops fan bases in SETX from my experience.

Good list.

It’s everybody’s year when they play the horsemen…

To be fair, someone waking up from a nap from 1965 would be completely nonplussed.

Yep great nephew. His older brother is playing baseball at Lamar and his twin sister may be the strongest 100 lb girl on the planet.