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15 hours ago, gogo173489 said:
Girola left for Orangefield last season. He was the coach of the girl's basketball team in Buna for quite a while. I didn't say boy's side or girl's side. I said you don't know anything about what is or has gone on in Buna at all. You're just making generalizations to insinuate things that didn't happen. Also, you clearly have some sort of strange issue with folks from Buna having legitimate questions about a coaching hire. The guy that was hired is 6-51 on his career. I don't care what his team was like or what teams they played at the 2A level. People have concerns about the hire, and they should.
And I’m saying said folks may be the very reason you only had two candidates who even wanted the job. And the same folks are on here arguing the one who should have been hired is a kid who wouldn’t have been considered for a head varsity job anywhere else. So yes, seems some delusion is going on. The same delusion that cost you guys a coach who didn’t just move on for more money. But you appear to be out of that loop so we will leave it at that.
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3 hours ago, 72 Pinto said:
If you're talking about the kids dad that always wears the cool flat bill hat, then I could not think of a worse idea. I guess it would make for good TV though.
He’s trolling. He works at one of the refineries, has a family to support, isn’t a teacher, etc.
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1 hour ago, gogo173489 said:
No one ran off Girola. He left because of issues with the previous AD. So wherever you're getting that information from is incorrect. I can't remember the last time a coach was "ran off" due to the public opinion of "local experts." Many stay for a very long time. (Morgan, Terrier) Most, not all, leave because Buna can't pay them what they're worth. Whitmire left for a better paying job at a larger school. He's as assistant there and makes more than what Buna could pay him. No one ran him off either. You're just throwing a bunch of crap against the wall to see if you can get it to stick. Your actual knowledge of what is happening or has happened in Buna is zero. You can continue to try and defend the hire of a coach who could only manage 6 wins in two seasons at the 2A level if you like. Also, we just hired a new boys coach last season. There was plenty of interest in that job. We got a good one in Wilson.
No one is talking about Girola. I don’t even know who that is. And don’t assume what I know or don’t know on the boys’ side. Maybe you are the one who is clueless there.
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10 hours ago, gogo173489 said:
I've done my research other than MaxPreps. MaxPreps shows Chilton at 0-19 last season, when in fact they were 0-28. The season before the actual record was 6-23 (MaxPreps says 6-6). During the 6-23 season Chilton had a play in game for the 4th seed which they lost. During those 2 seasons, only one team made it to the 3rd round of the playoffs from that district, the district champion in the 2021-2022 season. Telling me the district as a whole was fairly weak during his time at Chilton. Either way, by the time Kountze had a bad season under Joubert's watch, he had earned a pass. KJ doesn't have a track record of success to have earned that. I'll stand by my statement that if any coach with a 6-51 career record had applied for the boys job he would not have gotten an interview.
Ok, ok. You did at least do some research to get the correct records. I still suspect you’ve seen zero of their games over the past two years or seen KJ coach a single game. I wouldn’t expect you to, it’s 2A girls basketball. Not like it’s televised. But from what it sounds like, it came down to a couple of guys that actually wanted the job and your administration hired the more experienced. I’m sure they wish they had more interest in the job. And speaking of the boys job, I wonder how much interest they would have gotten there too. You see, when the local “experts” run off a historically GREAT (not just good) coach, word tends to get around and the more qualified guys (and gals) may shy away. So KJ could be the best women’s coach since Hyden there and I suppose it’s possible your comrades still won’t be satisfied. Tough gig over there.
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2 hours ago, Hawks18 said:
If he didn’t get the girls job at buna what makes you think orangefield would even consider? He’s been as assistant for ONE year I expect them to bring in someone with some experience
Yeah if they were going to hire someone with no HC experience, they have one on staff who has been an OF kid all his life and coaching basketball at various levels there. One thing about it, Smalley has proven himself to be as good an AD as a football coach and he’s one heckuva of a football coach in my opinion. He truly cares and supports ALL the sports, boys and girls. They have had an incredible year winning district championships in boys and girls sports and sending multiple kids to state in individual sports. Just like with Jake, Erickson, Ragsdales, and many others we could name, I’m sure he will hire the right guy.
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49 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:
So we're comparing Johnson to Joubert now? It's a bit silly to even acknowledge your comment but I'll give it a go. At no point during Coach Joubert's career has he went 6-51 over the course of 2 seasons. Never had a winless season either. Like I have said, I hope Coach Johnson does great at Buna, and proves any naysayers wrong, but I have my doubts.
Joubert had a 3-20 season recently. So he won 3 games more than zero. Fantastic. I’m sure he momentarily forgot how to coach that season.
But thanks, by omission, for admitting you know nothing about Chilton girl’s basketball other than what you found on MaxPreps. You don’t know a thing about their personnel or their opponents. It may be “silly” for me to assume this, but it seems pretty obvious to be the case. I, unlike you, can tell you that during the season where the Lions won 3 games (according to MaxPreps - like you, have no idea if that’s accurate because, well, MaxPreps), his team was pretty bad (and that may be kind). I saw them play more than once with my own eyes. If they did only win 3 games, that doesn’t surprise me.
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10 minutes ago, Cat22 said:
I talked to Smalley earlier today, he said he went back and looked at the Jr High numbers and he thinks Orangefield will stay 3A next realignment.
4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:According to Coach Smalley, he told me it will be very close but expects to be moved up to 4A next alignment.
It’s always close, but if I were betting, it would be that we stay 3A. I think our numbers might be lower than last realignment.
In fairness to Josh, he’s a much better football coach than mathematician. And I only say that hoping it gets back to him 😂🤣
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20 hours ago, navydawg31 said:
Colton weisbrod has no intentions on coaching a HS team. He been recruited by English a few times. He enjoys what he is doing on training the local youth. Straight from his mouth.
He’s great at it also.
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8 hours ago, gogo173489 said:
That's the problem. 6-51 is experience, yes, but it's not good experience. So be honest about the experience you speak of in this situation. The guy with 100 wins removed his name from consideration because he felt like the team interviewing him had already made up their mind and was uninterested in his interview. There are many upset about that as well.
What kind of talent did Chilton have compared to their opponents. Since we know what kind of experience it was, you must be able to let us know their strengths and weaknesses compared to their opponents. So when Kountze was god awful for a couple of years, Joubert forgot how to coach for a couple of seasons?
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29 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said:
And, you have a Supreme Court Justice that doesn’t know the definition of a woman. The whole Democrat party and their ideals are stupid. It is beyond belief how anyone would cast a vote for a Democrat. There really are a lot of stupid people out there.
It’s as dumb politically as it is in practicality. It never ceases to amaze me how truly out of touch with reality these idiots are who govern us.
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This issue is beyond stupid. I can’t even believe it’s a thing. Change your sex or whatever all you want. But you don’t do it and expect to compete against our daughters. That’s lunacy and a good way to push swing voters to the right.
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20 minutes ago, ah22 said:
What about making a run at Jeffcoat from LCM. Pretty sure the best returning player at OF was there before last year.
LCM pays better. And he will have better players there overall on a consistent basis. Would love to have him but pretty sure he wouldn’t be interested.
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19 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:
I think there is a reason why he is not employed by any school district. At least, I don't think he is.
Maybe so. Have no idea honestly. Nor do I know if he would be interested. Looks like his training business is starting to boom. For good reason.
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18 minutes ago, Knox34 said:
Yeah if you have a college degree these days they will get you certified
This. More so than ever. Teacher’s in higher demand than almost any profession. Wonder if there’s a way to solve that.
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1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Is he certified?
I don't think a school district the size of Orangefield would hire anyone who wasn't certified. Just doesn't fit the budget.
Certification is easy assuming he graduated Lamar. As you know, it’s not like getting certified as a peace officer, etc. Essentially pay some money and pass a test. They hire people all the time (at OF at least, with understanding they will get certified in whatever time frame grace period TEA or whomever dictates
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32 minutes ago, BEARCPA said:
Winning 65% of your games at Orangefield is no small feat.
2 deepest runs in school history two (both third round). Those two teams each had a historically good player for Orangefield which always helps. But he probably had the most 6 year tenure of any coach in program history. Good guy too - wish him the best.
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1 minute ago, Knox34 said:
Orangefield could go outside the box and hire one of the basketball guys like weisbrod or Jace miguez or even scales 🤷🏻♂️…. Thoughts?
Thought about Weisbrod. Personally would love that.
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On 3/29/2023 at 7:46 PM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:
In bold: if that's true I wonder how much camp performances factor into that........ 🤔
A lot when moves significantly up or down.
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23 minutes ago, gogo173489 said:
I never said you acted any way at all. My point was that KJ has very little experience himself, and none of that coaching experience is positive. So with neither candidate having much experience, I don't care where the coach was hired from. What I do care about is what that particular group of girls has been through coaching wise in the last couple of years. Losing Girola, then the AD at the time was not even interested in finding a girls basketball coach for the next season. The kids didn't know who their coach would be until after school started. They had to virtually beg Coach Dobbins to come out of retirement for the season. There were 3 "finalists" for the job this time around. One removed his name because he said during his interview the team interviewing him seemed "uninterested" in listening to what he had to say. This particular candidate has quite a bit of experience, and somewhere around 100 wins as a head coach. Sounds like to me this decision was made prior to there being any interviews, and that's an issue.
It wasn’t you, it was Johnny in the post quoted. But it sounds like what I suspected, there wasn’t a ton of interest in the job and it came down to two people. The job was given to the only one who had head coaching experience AND the only one with GIRLS coaching experience. Hardly an out of left field hire if that’s the case.
But your points are well taken and fair enough. We both want the same thing. The girls to have success and be guided by someone with character who will positively impact their lives. I believe that is KJ, you have your reservations and I’m not saying you are unreasonable to have them. But I truly believe you and others will be pleasantly surprised.
I will say that I’ve posted more on the girls basketball board in this thread than I have the whole board since I’ve been a member! Go Lady Cougars!
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I’m not saying you’re wrong. Which would be a shame because it is, in general, a good job. Not the highest paid probably, but good kids and a GREAT AD, HS principal and Superintendent. Always nice to have awesome bosses. But it just appeared that your tongue in cheek comment about potential candidates was taken seriously by some in this thread.