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Is it time for 1 High school in Beaumont?
oldschool2 replied to HtxFBGuru's topic in High School Football
The answer, clearly, is to add more schools. Not consolidate. I think BISD should instead invest in having twelve 3A schools. Or eighteen 2A schools. Yes.. definitely that. Or.. not do anything. United has shown (obviously) to be extremely successful in basketball. That doesn't translate to football just like having good football teams doesn't always translate to being good in other sports. -
Nice job OF. I definitely would've lost money on this one. That Slot-T proved too much for Anahuac to handle. Congrats.
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There isn't a doubt in my mind. I'm saying that those who bash high school coaches and even beyond are likely peewee coaches that "know more" than the varsity/college/pro coaches that actually get paid to do so. To clarify.. I'm not saying that coaches are mistake free. There are definitely coaches that are better or worse than others. I'm implying that there's often a lot more that goes into winning games than simply strategy/preparation. One being talent. And parents/fans often refuse to believe that their little babies just aren't any good. So coaches catch the blame. People need to realize that Bill Belichick is 71-80 withOUT Tom Brady. So.. is he a worse coach? Or.. did he have one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever take a snap? It wasn't very long ago that he was considered the best football coach to have ever lived. And I have no doubt that he knows more than I ever will. But.. know what I mean? Kind of like Phil Jackson. Who coincidentally has zero championships without MJ or Kobe/Shaq.
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I like HF in this one.. that said: After watching the Liberty/Jasper game, I feel Jasper is tough to stop when ground heavy. Their qb is athletic and potentially dangerous as a runner but not a strong passer. Based on what I hear HF will be a tough beat. I like HF but gut feeling says coin flip.
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Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
In all honesty, I couldn't care less what Hardin does or how they do it. There's no axe to grind here... I'm simply offering an opinion as to how the school can make strides towards being more competitive. You mention the word consistency.. there is no bigger advocate for consistency in a head coach than me. That's evident in my responses to any thread on this site about any school. There's no doubt that being consistent will be a good first step. It seems to me, though, that the hiring of a very qualified, seasoned coach would take a little precedence considering that a usual alternative would be a young guy looking to eventually (probably sooner rather than later) bounce into a more favorable job. That is my thoughts on ANY school doing this very thing. Kountze and anybody else. My only beef with any school would be pretending to want what's best for a head coach of any sport only to limit success for unlimited reasons. Support, money, consistency, fan support (lack thereof), or anything. I'm not the one that said the former coach didn't get the support he wanted so he left. I heard some similar rumblings but don't know. If Hardin has any history of mismanaging athletic funds, that's a completely different issue. I'll argue that's not the case for MOST of the programs with an AD/HFC. And maybe you aren't trying to justify it but saying that it's starting to be common just because you gave 3 area examples just isn't true. Know what... go ahead, Hardin. Do Hardin. Keep changing coaches every 2-4 years and wonder why the attempt at being consistent failed. I'll pass on going to the website and take your word for it. Again, I couldn't care less. I'll forever defend any coaching staff that's only as good as the limited potential they're dealt and sleep just fine. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
But it's not starting to trickle down. It almost seems like you're trying to justify the fact that Hardin/Kountze are doing this. Just in case any experienced football coach isn't interested due to their horrendous football tradition.. you guys are scaring the rest away with not allowing for the AD title. Well done... DESPITE all that, they end up with a good coach with a talented son and still let them squeak away. LOL! You gave 3 examples of non 5A/6A schools in the pretty large coverage area. I can tell you that it's not common in the rest of the state either... nor should it be. I think it's fair to say that the duties should be split between men's and women's.. but any school 4A and smaller should have the Head Football Coach as the AD.. as football is the majority money maker/spender within athletics. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
Sounds about like what I heard too. Either way.. I would have left as well. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
I have no doubt that details are being left out. However, the one detail that rings true was mentioned. HE LEFT.. and it could've been prevented. Or, at least.. further steps could've been tried to prevent it. Money, support, assistants, whatever.. he left for a reason and while that reason may not be known by everyone.. there's still a reason that he left a 3A school as a head football coach to go to a 3A school in the same district. His son was going to be the starting quarterback regardless. I know that Anahuac has a better supporting team but there's gotta be something else. Didn't I read that his son led their 8th grade team to the district championship? I know a lot changes between JH and Varsity but he still won. You are really going to use two of the worst football programs in all of SeTx as the examples of "schools gravitating away from the HFC/AD combination"? Other than these two football powerhouses, would you mind giving me some examples of some schools 4A and down that are practicing this? I already know there aren't any others is SeTx.. let's go statewide. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
Are you aware of the term District of Innovation? I read that most schools in the state took on that role which includes certain perks such as schedule flexibility and allowing certified teachers to teach in fields they aren't certified in. I bet that Hardin has those flexibilities. I also know that in certain circumstances smaller schools hire uncertified (yet degreed) people to teach while they are completing or even working on a certification. There is no set rules as to what exactly a coach HAS to teach.. and just because a coach is teaching something one year doesn't mean the teaching field can't change the next. Even for that exact coach. It sounds to me that Hardin either lacked creativity or refused to be creative... because I have friends/family in the coaching profession and was told that Barrier wanted to hire specific people to coach yet was told he couldn't. I'm not usually one to go off of just the word of a few but the coaching world usually holds pretty true to what I hear. In my experience anyway. So if that is evenly partially true.. he did the exact right thing by abandoning ship. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
That’s of less and less importance than people think. There are ways around that.. or there would be more jobs than there are. Schools will hire a teacher that may not fit a field before leaving it open. -
Anahuac vs Hardin? Give me your thoughts!
oldschool2 replied to BullDozer's topic in High School Football
Just out of curiosity.. what criteria are you talking about? Or do you know? -
Did I say that 6'5 made you a big time QB? I most certainly did not.. I implied that most big time quarterbacks fit a certain mold.. including height. I used 6'5 because that's the size of Katy's current quarterback... Katy being the closest elite high school program to Anahuac. Unless he goes to Northshore... whichever. What's the size of these guys?.. they seem pretty good sized to me: [Hidden Content]
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No doubt.. a little further west down I10 and they'll be in Katy. According to maxpreps.com, Katy's current qb is 6'5. How does the Barrier kid match up (size wise) to a typical big time quarterback? It's takes more than passing for 1000 yards halfway through the season at a 3A school. Just sayin...
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Tap the brakes, my guy. I watched a couple of Anahuac games on their stream and I like the kid. He's a player for sure. But top 10 in the nation? I don't believe you're considering the enormous multitude of schools across this nation that will produce the hundreds upon hundreds of collegiate level quarterbacks over the next however many years. Just look at the state of Texas. Again.. I like him. But.. are you not considering Lake Travis, Westlake, Allen, Martin, and the multitude of other 6A schools that will have quarterbacks that focus solely on being a quarterback and the countless other hidden gem quarterbacks across all classifications in THIS STATE ALONE? Do I believe he'll take snaps at the next level? Sure? As long as the work ethic remains and he avoids injury. Top 10 nationally, though? You're legitimately talking future NFL quarterback with that statement and there's no way I'll be convinced of that just yet. Someone mentioned 1,000 yards.. where does that rank him in 3A?
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It's the only home game they have in October. Maybe that's why..
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Coach bashing is done by morons that think they know more than they do because they sit in front of a TV for most college/pro games.. in turn making them believe that their knowledge supersedes the individuals that actually spend a majority of their week preparing, practice planning, studying game film, talking amongst actual peers/professionals in the field of coaching, facilitating practices, managing student/athletes on and off the field, juggling students' mental/psychological issues, holding students accountable for good/bad play and classroom behavioral circumstances, along with a limitless list of other dealings that go into what affects decisions made during a game.. while trying to win said game. Coach bashing is also done by people that would've played D1 "but their coach didn't like them". It probably had nothing to do with them being a below average player at an average (at best) high school with average to below average competition. I'm sure that people who bash coaches spend some time coaching peewee and telling the kids/parents that they were All-State when they played and had chances to go pro but got hurt. I'm sure that people who bash coaches couldn't do 10 pushups today or run 100 yards in an afternoon. Change my mind.
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I personally don't think a fair assessment of how a head coach did or is doing can be made unless they've had a group of 7th graders make it to graduation. Also, expectations can at times be unrealistic and improvements, expectations, and culture changes need to be taken into account. Unfortunately that's not the case. Coaches are judged on wins/losses. Despite graduations.. despite classification changes.. despite district changes.. despite transfers (both in and out).. despite every single detail that can affect the failure/success of a team that's out of the coach's control. They're still judged on wins/losses solely. Coincidentally.. sometimes a fresh perspective can change the attitude of the entire program by bringing new excitement. I get that.. I just which it was approached in a more, "we'd like to change directions" type attitude instead of unwarranted negativity towards whoever the last person was. Again.. I get it, though. The average person isn't very intelligent and there are far more people with below average intelligence than above. That's just the way of the world.. so I won't pretend that how things probably should be are the way that they will be. So..
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Blood in the water? I would think that WOS surely has the talent to win this one.. but I've heard things are kind of falling apart. I don't know for sure but I'm hearing: quitting, walking off the field, mentally struggling, etc. Again.. those are unverified rumors. Even if true, I'd bet WOS gets the win.
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Admirable.. 6 and a half decades of being screamed at by fans. No but seriously.. that's pretty cool.
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Most of the time when people realize they should've been careful what they asked for, it's too late. I'm not saying that the replacement won't work out fine..
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Hull-Daisetta (18) @ West Hardin (20) - FINAL
oldschool2 replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
I've heard that as well. Coaches are desperate for that HFC title on the resume, though. -
West Orange-Stark (27) @ Silsbee (48) - FINAL
oldschool2 replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
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That doesn’t mean that the mob wasn’t wanting a replacement.
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People should be careful what they ask for.
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Hull-Daisetta (18) @ West Hardin (20) - FINAL
oldschool2 replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Hear me out. Or.. it’s possible.. that HD just isn’t very good. Which most knew but the “wE uPsEt A biGGER sChOoL” crowd kept insisting that they were better than they were. Despite the fact that the teams they “upset” gave up 75 last week and will go 0-10, gave up 60 last night and likely won’t win again, and the team that couldn’t be “upset” gave up 65 last night and likely won’t win another game. Sigh.. those pesky details. Anyway. Now the same coach that was praised before is ridiculed now. John.. HD55.. did either of you guys get the exact details? Perhaps there’s a reason that Bird shifted from your vast football knowledge. Was the kid hurt? Did he smart off to a teammate? Did he call a coach’s momma fat? Maybe WH made adjustments that you didn’t see. Maybe literally any reason Coach Bird thought of happened. I’m sure he knows both of you personally. Reach out instead of acting ridiculous on a public forum. Job applications? What a joke you are..