oldschool2

Beating bad teams doesn’t make you good.

OF may not get scored on in this district.

Yearly.

I bet it's fun to coach this kid...

I would assume that many of the Bobcats of old that gave those beatdowns you speak of don't even have kids on the team. The high school enrollment tells me that a large percentage of HD alum have jumped ship. Which is all that matters in football. Numbers mean everything.. and HD is about dried up. The all-time record will change directions pretty quickly unless HD does something that can rebuild the school population.

There have probably been some great games in this series in the past.. that involved some talented players. Nobody can deny that. But those days are seemingly gone. "Good games" between these two schools nowadays will just mean they happen to be equally matched. Doesn't necessarily make it a good game.

Bringing up all-time matchup or past record will get you absolutely dragged on here. HD is a fraction of a fraction of what they once were.. and very likely never returning. Enjoy the past successes, and root for your team and/or kids for sure, but it's completely irrelevant when talking about the "good old days". Zero kids on the team were even born when HD won its last football playoff game.

I'm surprised that they still have 11 in the high school to suit up.. So by that regard, you're 100% correct.

Franklin needs a game? Sounds like an inner squad scrimmage in Kountze, Tx before that happens.

I don't care how many deep runs Jasper makes in football... or how the other sports do. Jasper has 7 years to win it all starting last year or they need a new head football coach. Not my words..

That conversation shifted gears. As far as parents moving their kids to schools that best suit their interests.. that's been happening since long before the talk of vouchers. It can't be stopped. I'm on the fence. I see the arguments for and against.. but I think that maybe a parent's school tax dollars should go to the school of their choosing. Schools should do better job implementing programs and others that A) keep kids there.. B)attract from outside. Competition is good.. why shouldn't schools have to compete?

A rough time in Carthage's district? No way...

At small schools it's difficult to justify paying what it takes to attract a quality football coach without attaching AD to the job. Not only monetarily.. but NOBODY that's any good will go somewhere to be the head football coach while having other duties (classes, etc.). Also, at a small school it's pretty much impossible to justify paying someone to be athletic director only as an administrative salary. Double edged sword. I am personally a fan of AD only positions.. but understand completely why it's not normally seen in smaller schools. Schools the size of Jasper (4A) could probably get away with it. But that deep, "the way it's always been done".. mentality has a stranglehold on a lot of places.

I played 4 years of college basketball... and knew at a very early age that it would be my passion. I also played football.. and baseball in JH/HS. During football/baseball seasons I got in a lot of basketball drills. Before school, after practice, and on weekends. I most definitely have a problem with using time for YOUR sport during time that's allocated for another sport. As I mentioned in an earlier post, focusing on a sport doesn't mean abandoning the others. It just means finding extra time. Players that want to be great will do that.

Roger. I misread your comment. Perhaps the other sports will turn the corner sometime soon.

If there's a specific situation that started this thread, I don't know the details. Nor do I care. But I do have an opinion about what I'm gathering from some of the comments. My opinion: I do believe that an AD should leave the players of a particular sport to their respective head coach during that season. The varsity players of that sport anyway. I believe it's a little different concerning the sub varsity players of that sport. If an AD/HFC decides to grab some JV baseball players for some offseason football stuff during the athletics period, I don't have AS MUCH of a problem with it. I would still consider it a common courtesy to discuss with the head coach of that particular sport to consider their thoughts on it. I also believe that ALL athletes should be lifting and running all year. When in a particular season, I believe that the head coach of that sport should control the reigns on that topic to implement some sport specific lifting/running during their season. But all athletes should be in the weight room year round. As far as playing multiple sports? I'm an advocate. I know that the popular idea is for potentially good/great players in a specific sport to "focus" on that sport. And I agree.. but focusing on one sport doesn't mean stopping the others. It just means prioritizing time in a way that extra work is put into that specific sport. After hours, weekends, holidays/summer, etc.. Just because you plan on making a push into college baseball (for example) doesn't mean you can't work on baseball during other sports seasons. That's exactly what I did.. and countless others. Plus, it's important to maybe learn how to be a role player in a sport that you're not the best at. Because that's coming. That's my opinion. And I come from an era where kids played multiple sports if they knew it would be helping. Helping their classmates.. or just contributing to school pride. I hate knowing that there are schools that could be much more competitive if their kids would just come out. It's hard for me to understand if I'm being honest.

Maybe.. however.. Many athletic director / head football coach have lost their job despite the athletic program as a whole being successful.. if the football team struggles. On the other hand, when football teams are doing great but the rest of the program stinks.. AD/HFC still keeps their job. WOS. Newton. .. programs as a whole were fairly weak during those many years of football power and very few people even knew it. Or cared. Yet, AD/HFC kept their jobs for years. Meanwhile, I remember an AD/HFC at Barbers Hill lost his job after every program in the school won district championships and even had several team sports (baseball, softball, girls hoops, etc.) making runs at state. But the football team was mediocre. Fired. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that perception is reality. And the perception is that your athletic program can suck as long as football wins.. it doesn't matter how strong the athletic program is if football sucks.

Not 100% sure. I've heard but can't confirm.. and don't want to say something that I don't know for sure.

Put his kids in a better situation?

Completely taking Sells out of the offensive equation 2nd half. That’s gonna do it.

Tarkington won by 2. EC came back from down 10 late to tie. Tarkington scored with about 12 seconds to go. EC then turned it over with about 5 seconds left. I think it was 63-61

IF they did that.. it might certainly stay somewhat respectable. IF. But.. I have a sneaky suspicion that Silsbee's perimeter players would make it a little more difficult to do than the current district foes. Closeout speed is likely considerably magnified. You could theoretically say that about any team. IF X hits most of their 3's and Y misses... then it could be respectable at least. And Kountze may have a higher likelihood of that happening than some.. but still doesn't mean it's likely. It wouldn't be worth betting a playoff warmup game on that likelihood.

I'm glad Kountze is having an improved season. I am. And I believe the Sells kid is a player.. But.. beating up on their district doesn't mean they could give Silsbee anything competitive. Like already said.. not gonna happen. And I personally don't even believe it would be a game.

The list of things that can change between JH and HS is vast. It's more likely than not that JH success won't be the same in HS. 1st and foremost.. 7th grade kids playing against everyone else's 7th grade kids and 8th grade kids playing against everyone else's 8th grade kids is not evenly remotely the same as 9-12th against 9-12th. A grade level of kids playing with either the grade above them or below them.. or both can dramatically change the success/failure compared to when it was just them. Not only do kids mature, gain strength, gain speed, gain size, and gain skill (both physically and mentally) at completely different levels and pace individually, but kids actually WORK and/or gain/lose interest completely different. Forget about the other obvious variables.. like: academic eligibility, transferring (both losing and gaining kids), quitting, reclassification, coaching change, etc. etc. etc. The situation for a Senior IS NOT THE SAME as that same kid's situation was when they were a 7th grader. To think so is idiotic. It's truly funny to me to hear people make predictions based on what happened in JH... might as well add little league as a predictor lol.

According to Maxpreps.. OF beat EC, Woodville, and Jasper in 2011. And played Silsbee within 4. I'm pretty sure Huckaby was a Slot-T guy if I remember correctly.