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I would have also.

Like I stated earlier.. Doesn't matter if you give up 7 but only score 6. And scoring 50 means nothing if you give up 51.

Well... technically it is. By definition anyway.

What's even more staggering to me is that there's only one state champion out of the 20 teams.

It matters when the defense can convert turnovers to points.

Upon further expection.. it's similarly successful to have a top defense as it is to have a top offense. Top 10 Offenses: Atascocita- 12-2 Round 4 San Augustine- 14-1 Round 5 Panhandle- 8-3 Round 1 Shiner- 12-1 Round 3 McKinney North- 10-2 Round 2 CC Miller- 12-1 Round 3 Midland Lee- 11-2 Round 3 Red Oak- 11-2 Round 3 San Saba- 13-1 Round 4 Highland Park- 11-2 Round 3 Top 10 Defenses: Diboll- 11-1 Round 2 San Saba- 13-1 Round 4 Cy-Fair- 11-1 Round 2 East Bernard- 14-1 Round 5 Austin LBJ- 8-3 Round 1 Ralls- 10-2 Round 2 Austin WL- 15-1 Round 6 SC Alto- 12-1 Round 3 Lindsay- 9-3 Round 2 Duncanville- 15-1 Round 6 Offense= 114-17 Collectively 31 rounds deep Defense= 118-15 Collectively 31 rounds deep

Soooo.... does defense really win championships? Only one team on this list won the title. Also, the top 10 offenses seemingly won more playoff games than the top 10 defenses. Just sayin

Derrick and I have talked quite a bit of ball.. y'all have a good one. I know he was a handful in college because of his work ethic. Not many freshmen start on that level. I have no doubt that you guys are getting the same effort with his coaching. I haven't been to a game but I think it's all he knows.

Coach Daniels is a friend of mine from way back. He's been around a lot of winning basketball.

I wasn’t implying it’s anybody’s fault.. I know that fans should be updating. It’s aggravating because I have other ways of finding scores but can’t even count on those for girls basketball.

I really do. I actually have friends with ties (one way or another) with all of those schools.

In my complete opinion, it seems that schools locally are so hindered by not only numbers but by players with completely different skill sets it seems to me that it would be a nightmare to come up with something that your specific group of girls can actually do (system) from year to year. It also seems that the reason so many girls teams in the area are so "pressure, steal, layup" oriented is because they may not have 5 kids capable of a conventional half-court basketball style of play. Not sure. Can your "shooters" create their own shots? Because I wouldn't put it past a lot of these area schools to junk defense your shooters. Do you do dribble drive stuff because you see a lot of man defense? I love dribble drive stuff but I rarely see high school girls teams capable of doing it. It's pretty much all what most NBA teams do nowadays. If so that's kind of great. That you see man AND you have the personnel necessary to run a dribble drive type of offense.

Then HJ is most certainly doing it right. They are making all of the necessary deposits. That's what I used to tell my kids growing up.. If you need a withdrawal later, deposit the time/effort now.

10-4. And btw.. I can think of very few situations where girls can't access the gym during the summer. I know that a lot of schools have volleyball nets up but that doesn't effect shooting or ball handling work. They probably won't have access like being described at MM but it's there. And yeah.. I personally get tired of looking on this forum and can't even see scores posted. Not that I have a vested interest but I usually like to keep up with all sports to an extent.

Martin's Mill?! No offense, Coach, but making a comparison to them isn't even applicable. You're talking about a school that A) doesn't have volleyball and B ) has kids with very supportive home situations. Ex: They play all year.. camps, AAU, privates, etc. Having a youth program "like their's" isn't going to happen. You make some fantastic points though and you're 100% correct about the need to get them playing earlier somehow (with other girls only). I'm not the expert on the subject but I can promise that even if they're taught everything needed it has to be worked rigorously all year long. That was my original point and what I'm sticking by. It takes purposeful practice and often.

I'm pretty certain that the cons far outweigh the pros in terms of little dribblers. To be clear, I'm not advocating for ZERO youth basketball experience. I definitely think that even bad experience can be better than no experience especially in terms of learning some concept of the game. However, if a kid is relying on little dribbler ONLY for their skills training then they're going to be in a bind in the long run. I'll guarantee you that there aren't many youth basketball programs that do it the way it should be done. I personally think that all youth basketball coaches should attend at least one sort of seminar with the school's varsity head coach for ideas, useful drills, and maybe some preferred concepts to focus on every practice. Maybe even some practice planning itself. I'm fairly certain that no towns are doing that. If so, please enlighten me. I noticed you mentioned HJ. I would never take anything away from their accomplishments or the volunteers coaching their youth sports.. but.. they have a player on their team with multiple big time D1 offers and another player on their team that had a father who was a varsity head coach for several years. Is the youth program responsible for ALL of the success they're seeing? Or do they maybe have some players that spend a huge amount of time working on the game outside of the season?

I have a lot of friends in the coaching world on every level all the way up to college. I think you're grossly underestimating how much gym availability these kids have during the summer.

No argument here. In fact, I think little dribblers is the single biggest contributor to bad basketball in rural America. Kids don't learn anything except bad habits. Girls especially (with shooting) are often times not big enough or strong enough at very young ages to get the ball to the rim so they are encouraged to get it up there however they can. That's so detrimental. Small school basketball is a cesspool of 2 handed shooting, right handed dribbling, and stupid fouls / tie-ups. It's hard for me to even watch high school basketball anymore (locally) because I just stay mad the entire time.

I wasn't implying that it's an excuse you were making, just a bad excuse for anyone to make. Want to shoot better? PUT IN THE TIME/EFFORT necessary. Not just shots. Proper shots. Practice doesn't make perfect practice makes permanent. You have to practice doing the right thing.

Truth. Plus.. Some schools need to slow down the game immensely due to lack of an offensive presence. Force schools to throw up a shot in an allotted amount of time OR force good schools to actually shoot when a game is already out of hand and scores will be embarrassing for some. More so than already.

Piss poor excuse. I didn't have a shooting machine and made more three pointers in the state than any kid that played. Any classification. Larry Bird didn't have a shooting machine either.. in fact.. it was because of him exactly why I was able to shoot so well. He said one time when asked what needed to be done to become a great shooter like him: "Wake up before the sun comes up and shoot game shots until school starts, go in the gym during lunch and shoot game shots while your opponents eat, stay after practice and shoot game shots until it's time to eat/sleep. Repeat everyday. Do that, and you may be able to shoot as well as I can."

Not being taught by who? If a high school basketball player is counting on learning how to shoot during the months of Oct-Feb from their school coach.. then they might as well not even worry about it. Junior high coaches can teach form shooting, ball handling, court awareness, pivoting (IMPORTANT), and other things.. but it can't stop when season is over and honestly it should've began long before junior high sports. I hate youth sports but camps are great. Either way, it is impossible to become a good shooter at basketball practice alone.

In 3/4A and up? I’m sure it’s very few if any. I won’t say none because exceptions can always be found, but I bet it’s difficult. Even in smaller 11 man championship teams people would be surprised at how many there are.

I never said he only had one star at Allen.. 6A schools are loaded with D1 commits. He just also happened to have the best quarterback in the history of Texas high school football (statistically) who happens to be an NFL starter right now. And.. he no longer has to prove anything since he’s already reached your definition of elite? Hmm.. wouldn’t that just prove that state titles can’t be won without stud players?

Gotcha. Not sure why I thought that. Well in that case it would probably be better to stay than go to Dayton. Money could certainly be the issue.