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Well, that's pretty much what they ran all last year anyway. . . . Doesn't really matter what Dayton runs, we all know what 4 plays are coming; Jet sweep, bubble screen, quick slant from the slot and the fake slant with a wheel or go route. Only difference this go 'round for Nations is that Green and Dugat won't be running it.

I think Tepper would respond similarly, I just think you would also be able to pick up a hint of arrogance in his tone though.

I think Ned and Central are the only teams in the district that will be able to play with PAM. Ned due to coaching and Central due to athletes. I think the majority of what schools like PNG and Lumberton will put on the field wouldn't even make varsity at PAM. I'm not saying the "any given night" theory doesn't hold water but IMO PAM will be a lot like Crosby at the 5A level where if you don't have elite athletes on the other side of the ball you're probably not going to win.

You do a great job with what you have to work with. I've told the people on the site for the last three years that FNF has taken over as the premier THSF magazine in the state. DC's will always be the flagship/bell cow but degenerates like me know where to get the most accurate version of what we're in search of.

The more realistic question is "Who's getting second?". PAM will probably have the best 5A athletes in the coverage area but I think Crosby will have the best collection of football players, if that makes sense? We only won one game by a TD or less during the regular season last year and once we start district play I think that's how it will go again this year. This should be the most athletic team we've put on the field since '09, so once again this year anything of a D2 regional title is probably considered underwhelming.

Man, if that news is true Texas could have 4 first rounders on the o-line at one time. Williams and Delance at the tackles, Hudson and Vahe at the guards. I really don't think Texas wanted Kam after Kyle Porter's commitment, plus he was kind of a headache to UT during the process. IDK how much run Kam would've really gotten anyway, Warren and Foreman will get bulk of the carries and there's still Tristan Houston and Kirk Johnson behind those two. As far as running backs I think UT's only concern is getting JK Dobbins signature.

They've been in the district with us the last two years, I know they won't make the playoffs and so does everyone else on this board. Still doesn't change the fact that they have 2,068 kids and would be a D1 representative over FB Elkins if something odd happened in district play. Just like I know Splendora won't make the playoffs in 21-5A but I include them as someone who could push Crosby D1 simply because their enrollment says they can. If I said Manvel and Elkins would be the reps. for sure it would be a false statement at this point.

So you're saying you wouldn't underestimate someone in 21-5A getting another bi-district layup? Or you saying you expect 22-5A to be weaker so he'll be able to produce the same results? I think Baytown Lee will be a little better this year and that Babin could struggle to get to 3 district wins, maybe I'm giving the district too much credit though.

I believe Manvel still has over 2000 kids or are right at it even with Shadow Creek opening at 1800+. Elkins also has over 2000 kids so unless Galena Park makes the playoffs Manvel and Elkins are the D1 teams. I think they signed 13 D1's last year, 11 or 12 FBS kids alone. By 2017 Manvel will most likely be playing over the 5A limit again like George Ranch and Ridge Point were able to do the past couple of years. The drop won't cause them to be any weaker comparable to the classification, after Crosby they're still playing North Shore and Pearland in non-district. So the 13 D1's they had to have that success on the 6A level will only need to be about 4 or 5 on the 5A level which they have covered easily. IMO they're still going to be the most talented 5A team in the state.

Babin is a realist, he knows he caught lightning in a bottle last year. He knows what he's working with in Lumberton and that it'll probably take twice the coaching job as last year to produce the same results.

We will go D1 if two of the three schools out of BH, Dayton and Splendora make the playoffs. Humble and KP both getting in is Crosby's best shot to go D2. If Humble doesn't get in you're most likely correct that PAM would get KP in the first round assuming you beat both Central and Ned. I think district 23 sweeps their first round games leaving a four team combination of Manvel, FB Elkins, FB Marshall and Texas City waiting on the bi-district champs from this coverage area.

I agree with you 1000% but that's an argument I gave up on long ago on this site. If you ask someone from Houston to describe where they live they'll tell you southeast Texas, you ask them where Beaumont is and they'll tell you East Texas. To us there's really no difference between Beaumont, Lufkin, Cleveland, Marshall or Newton. Even if you look at it longitudinally places like Houston and Baytown are farther south than Nederland, Port Arthur, Beaumont or Orange. You'll never win that one here.

I've always said the day DCTF hits the shelves is the unofficial official start to Texas football season. I just think over the years they've tried to incorporate too much data into the Summer edition. While DCTF will always be the bell cow, the real Texas high school football magazine is the one The Old Coach puts out which should hit shelves not long after Dave's does.

That's why I said Ned vs WOS would be the SETX game of the week. I know Crosby vs Manvel wouldn't really be considered a SETX game, I just mentioned it because those are the type games the initial comment was incorporating.

It's definitely going to be a huge game in SETX, and probably a close and well played one. I don't think it will be anywhere close to one of the best week 1 games if you look at the schedule though. There's nowhere to hide week 1 and there are a bunch of Crosby vs Manvel type games around the state being played to open the season. Doesn't Ned play WOS to open the season too? I would think they make that the SETX game of the week anyway.

My prediction on DCTF's pre-season top 10: 1. Cedar Park 2. Manvel 3. Aledo 4. Temple 5. Lone Star 6. Denton Ryan 7. Crosby 8. Lancaster 9. Foster 10. Angleton A lot of the 5A powerhouses have either moved back up or outgrown 5A all together. Bad part is that the majority of 5A's strength resides in region 3 this year.

Normally I would have a retort for a remark like that but I somewhat agree. No other season has a district championship been more meaningless than this year. Crosby could run away with the district and get what I like to call the "2000s". PAM in bi-district, Manvel in the second round, Cedar Park in the third round only to have Temple waiting in the regional final. If Barbers Hill or Dayton miss the playoffs though, I think Crosby get another D2 regional title.

Jordan Hill, (WR), 6-3/180lbs. Has narrowed college choices down to Bowling Green, Fresno St., Colorado St., Kansas and Illinois. Probably one of the more underrated receivers in the state due to Netherly playing across from him but could be in line for a 60/1000/15 type season if he's healthy. High points the ball extremely well and can play the possession receiver or game-breaker role. I think Jordan could have an Allen Hurns type career in college if he continues to work: [Hidden Content]

The only thing I would say to that is A&M's top TE target is most likely Kedrick James out of La Vega now that Wright seems to be solid to Notre Dame. Even though two TE's are committed there's no way A&M wouldn't still accept a commitment from James which might put one of the two already committed in a predicament unless they think Horry has a chance to grow into a tackle.

IDK, nobody that's expected to have a big year is currently hurt? Normal tweaks here and there that happen throughout the offseason. Code Red is still healthy for the time being . . . knock on wood.

You just made and killed your own argument. You're basically asking teenagers to be held to a higher standard than a multi-million dollar athletic department as well as an entire board of regents. They covered up multiple sexual assault allegations and knowingly accepted transfers from kids who were accused of the same deeds. That's a lack of institutional control, the same as Penn St. was charged with which the NCAA eventually allowed any current player to transfer free and clear of restrictions. Not to mention a lot of these kids are guided by parents who may have been uninformed of the scope of the allegations before the Hamilton report came out. If you found out the company you were going to work for knowingly covered up sexual assaults of female employees would you still choose to work for them because you made a "commitment", do you stay because it's a good job? You're speculating the reason they all want to be released is because Briles got fired, what if they're trying to "man up" and do what's morally right instead of being "forced to get a free education"? The "play where you signed/committed" argument just doesn't hold water in this case.

1. Deshawn Watson 2. Baker Mayfield 3. Pat Mahomes 4. Josh Rosen 5. JT Barrett

Very hard list to make. I can't argue with anyone on there but I would probably drop Hood out of the top 5 and put Joe Mixon in there. If they both come out this year I think Mixon could go higher than Perine. By the end of the year D'Onta Foreman or Chris Warren could be on here too.

Then I would think Crosby should be behind them too. It's a catch 22 to me though. While I would rank Crosby behind them I also think it would be doing a disservice to the pollsters to have them rank teams like Oak Ridge and Montgomery who they never see or hear about. I know Conroe sucks, but unless you've seen highlights or looked at statistics regarding why they lost to College Park then how do you judge how good wins are against those teams? We have at least three dedicated high school football tv shows that cover the area teams, about 15-20 area papers that cover teams and the Chronicle which provides the most in-depth coverage throughout the weeks of the season in print and online. We see it rather we want to or not over here. I just think its a gray area to be ranking teams over 100 miles away in some cases just for the sake of covering one team.

Well, unless North Shore is covered this year Crosby should come in pre-season #1 again in the SETX rankings. With that being said, August 26th the #1 team in SETX will be playing what might be the #1 team in all of 5A when the trophies are handed out. Week 1 Crosby @ Manvel - Alvin ISD stadium Two preseason top 10 teams in the state opening with what could be a second round preview. Hard to get any bigger than that.