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I think he's going to need an adjustment period just like Westeberg will. The guy just came from a place where he was coaching SEC-type defenders on a regular basis. He was coaching LB's going to Alabama that are the same size as BH's lineman. Not to mention the guys he was coaching got to practice against 5-stars like Jacksonville Jaguars running back T.J. Yeldon in high school. I think he'll instill some swagger in them that they've been missing though. I just wonder if you're already giving up 20+ with that type of talent against what we would consider antiquated offenses, how you adjust to more complicated schemes with talent a few tiers below?

It just it what it is. If a school has 2000+(or 2,348) kids and wins district but is the third largest school in their district they go to the D2 playoffs. If another district doesn't have as high an enrollment you could have the third smallest school from there playing them in the same class. With split divisions and 5 team districts you can get a 2-8 team in bi-district and a 4-7 team in the area round. On multiple occasions the last couple of years in 5A-region 3 you're getting top 10 state matchups in the first two rounds, much like 6A in the DFW. Crosby has only lost once in bi-district the last 8 years, of all our second round losses in that time span Elgin was the only squad we lost to that didn't at least make the regional final or win the region outright and that's probably because their qb got hurt the round before against us. I think coming from the SETX part of the bracket in 5A and 6A if you can make it past the second round you can probably make the regional final even easier, it's just getting tougher as Fort Bend county's population explodes on top of them already pumping out multiple NFL level players yearly.

Man, if you think that you must feel WOS would've slaughtered Nederland then. Ned scored 12 offensive points on Crosby and lost by 17 in Mid-County. We get 40+ and another Golden Triangle layup if the game was in Crosby. So, since Crosby won 35-17 you must think WOS would've beaten y'all 42-14? Not really saying much for how you feel about you own program.

Like I said, Hancock has been calling defenses against Crosby for longer than anybody we have faced or will face. Dayton's defense is the only reason they've been in the games the last few years, they've only scored over 20 offensive points once in that stretch. Now that Stew isn't around to prop the defense up you think Nations is going to come off of a 5 year hiatus and have anything for Riordan and this staff? Getting new players is good, but are they good new players? If they were good they would've been trying to get scholarships and wouldn't have let a coach affect that goal. I think you can mark it down, with what Crosby has coming back and Nations first year as a head coach it'll be Dayton's worse loss to Crosby since the shutout in the rain. I hope Dayton is undefeated when Crosby comes to town though.

LOL. In the words of LilTex, Neumann = 1-5 against Crosby in his career. If PAM puts it on y'all like that "Daddy" might be more appropriate than "Hova". In a few short years we've gone from your coach running his mouth calling Crosby "scared" to line it up to his team being taken off the schedule due to lack of competition and athletes. C'mon Mayfield, Crosby and Dayton have been tag teaming y'all like education majors.

As far as 21-5A win total improvements I think it'll be Kingwood Park and Porter that will lead the way. KP only won three games last year but I think they'll finish second in district behind Crosby. They were inconsistent on varsity but the younger kids executed coach Maple's system to perfection last year. I also expect them to be the biggest team in the district at line of scrimmage. The other team I think will improve from their 1 win last year is Porter. When Jim Holley was at KP I thought he was the second best coach in the district behind Riordan. KP never beat themselves under him and he always seemed to get more out of his team than the sum of their parts would indicate. One thing you know Holley's teams will do is play hard-nosed defense but I actually think it'll be the power run game he installs that gives 21-5A the most fits. I think BH will improve but I also think they'll struggle at the qb position which will hinder them in some of the shootouts they'll be in. They're also so depleted talent wise at the younger level I think it'll be a couple of years before you really start to see real improvement, with Santa Fe and Vidor on the schedule in non-district they should have a better record though.

You can't give me insight on anything. Dallas Skyline, Desoto and Westfield are not only some of the most talented teams in Texas, but some of the most talented in the country. None of them have titles, neither does Brenham who's produced first round picks like Limas Sweed and Malcom Brown, not to mention guys like Jarret Lee who was backing up Phillip Rivers a few years ago. The way the current format is, the second round in 5A and 6A is usually the hardest round before the regional final because you get a bunch of top seeds matching up from districts with 7-9 teams. Half of the teams in the 4A playoffs, especially D2, come from the bottom half of the district and the good teams really won't see each other until deep. You saw how WOS was slaughtered by Foster this past year, those are what the good 5A teams in Houston look like. Foster couldn't win a big game either and they probably have more D1 recruits than Crosby. What Crosby puts on the field is standard operations for the good 5A's in the Houston area, it only seems like a lot of talent when you compare it to the SETXsports coverage area. Fort Bend County probably has the highest concentration of talent anywhere in the country besides Dade or Broward counties in south Florida. Keep in mind that on you way to Fort Bend you can detour down 288 where Pearland, Dawson, Manvel and Angleton all reside. Yet, until GR won a title this past year the only one they had to show was LC with Rodgers. That's coming from an area with probably 30 schools. Little bit different playing the district champion from toughest district in the region for a second round game, who eventually lost to the champ in the semis vs getting Wharton which couldn't win their own district which probably consisted of only 5 teams. I'm glad WOS won for the GT, but like I said, there's not a bit of insight you can offer me. Crosby is moving towards the 6A ranks in a couple more alignments while WOS is pretty stagnant and will continue to get to play in a watered down 4A-D2, we're just looking at things from two totally different ends of the spectrum.

Yet, when you ask him who the better coach was he'll tell you "Hancock". I don't think that speaks well for either guy. I understand the familiarity with Nations but you can't tell me the list of applicants for Dayton's AD position didn't have a guy more qualified than one who specializes in offense but hasn't called a play in 5 years. I think there are going to be Dayton fans at the end of next season that will reflect on Hancock's tenure and think it wasn't all that bad. Where do you and Stew play at? I played River Terrace with my dad the other day and shot 78(39/39) playing lift-clean-and place. Might have to hook up on time soon, I'm trying to sharpen my game for our manager's cup tournament in Lake Charles at Gray Plantation next month.

Well, that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is Dayton has those passing yards because they can't run the ball on Crosby. Dayton has only rushed for over 100 yards as a team on Crosby once in the last three years and that was McBride taking direct snaps running side to side a couple of years ago. On the flip side Crosby has rushed for 1,078 yards alone while Dayton as a whole has only moved the ball for 1,059 yards. Riordan knows he always has the ability to line up and mash it down Dayton's throat in his back pocket which I think may have affected the earlier parts of the game the last few years. Crosby is averaging a little over 359ypg rushing the last few meetings but really hasn't started running the ball until later in the games. All Dayton could average last year with this big o-line you talked about was 2.8ypc. If Nations doesn't get some of that finesse out of Dayton, three years from now they'll still be averaging 257 passing ypg against Crosby and have three more L's to go with it.

I agree with what you said but in the end you still need talent, otherwise you just end up being Vidor. A prime example was Lumberton in bi-district last year. I'm sure the kids played with all the heart they had, but were still down 35-0 at halftime to a team who admittedly wasn't on the same page all year. I know in 21-5A the last four years the most talented teams have made the playoffs with the exception of Humble.

Looks like Crosby may have improved their chances at repeating for the district crown. What was already going to be a good secondary just added what may end up being our best pure cover guy, which say a lot with guys like Tay'lor Perry on the team. Kid was solid last year and has been starting at SA Roosevelt since he was a sophomore, kid might blow up once Mann fixes his film. Johnnie Harper - [Hidden Content]

Not only that, Canyon is ranked #2 in Texas behind undefeated 6A Duncanville according to Maxpreps national rankings. They're also ranked #10 in the country according to that same prep service. I would think the winner of this game would be the odds on favorite to win it all, but if I remember back correctly Canyon knocked Crosby out last time they advanced this far or at least they've knocked us out when we went deep before. They fundamental-ed us to death. That being said, as long as the odds are against our girls, I think the length and athleticism Crosby posses on the wing could be a problem for Canyon. This a true David vs Goliath but hopefully coach Trotter sees something on the TImberview tape that can get us a W.

No he wouldn't, because PNG most likely wouldn't make the playoffs if Dayton was in 22-5A. He doesn't really know who has what coming back over here, probably just an assumption off having a new coaching staff. A staff where the icon of their program passed over the current head coach to give it to the guy they just basically fired. I would say the chances are twice as good that Dayton finishes fourth versus first.

I thought the same thing following the Ned/Dayton game while I was watching us play Angleton. Then I actually saw them play and my opinion changed. I was fully in the "Daddy Ball" camp but in person I thought Hancock was a much more accurate passer and more efficient decision maker. It's obvious Long was the better athlete though. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the new staff handles the qb position.

Hopefully she'll be transferred back to Crosby and play with the rest of the girls she grew up playing with. Tough to see one of our players go help another school win, maybe we get the rubber match in the regional final though?

As a Crosby fan we were over there hoping y'all would put Long in the game. I didn't see the Ned game where he went off but I did see Humble, KP, New Caney and us. It was the consensus from our side that Hancock was the better qb and ran the team more efficiently. From what I saw Dayton was extremely predictable with Long back there. Other than Timmy Ware's performance against Crosby, I thought Hancock's games against New Caney and PNG were the best from one of our district qbs I saw all year. Like I said, I never saw the Ned game with Shaq though. Hancock's only issue I saw was not being able to take the pounding of a 5A season, that kid probably would've been all-state at a lower level though.

I didn't say kids from WOS couldn't play at the bigger schools, I said off this specific team versus the one we put on the field last year. I think Justin Thomas is the best db to come out of the area since I've been on this board, that's DT and Tony Brown included. He would probably get serious NFL attention if he was taller. When your own coach says "it looks like the circus came through and dropped them off" it's very hard to project those kids against a higher level of competition when the only time they were on the field with similar athletes in a bigger class they got roughed up.

At Dayton only the stud starters do get to touch the field. They had about 30 kids on the team and played about 20. The depth I'm taking about isn't from backups, it's the drop-off from your best defensive player or offensive player to your worst. Cedar Park doesn't have a bunch of big time studs for 5A, but their drop-off from 1-11 on both sides of the ball is minimal even when compared to teams with more sought after individual talent. With Dayton, as well as other teams from around here, that difference could be drastic. That's the depth I'm speaking of, not how good the backup center is.

He would have to play over one of these kids, which I'm sure he wouldn't. Taylor Perry - #36 CB in the country - [Hidden Content] Joseph Pickney - 21-5A defensive MVP - [Hidden Content] * Pickney had a different set of circumstances, otherwise he would probably be rated higher than Perry. He was our best db this year but Taylor will be the one that ends up a four star. My opinion doesn't matter to the guys handing out schollys though, which reverts back to what I was saying about Phillips or Morris.

Well, Crosby had three players playing in bowl games this season. Merka played for TCU, Singleton was playing Utah and Donnie Starks was starting for K-State. Singleton and Starks were starting by the end of the season and Merka played mostly in double TE sets but did get in the endzone. Austin Walter rushed for about 500 yards this year as frosh for Rice which included a 100 game in his first NCAA appearance. Clayton Callicutt set San Angelo's all-time sack record and was named to the little All-America team, he'll have an opportunity to play in the NFL this upcoming season. Aaron Brown is in JUCO this year but will probably be one of the more sought after dbs in the ranks once it's time to transfer. We have other kids doing work too but most of the 30 we signed over the last three years are still young and breaking into their roles.

His page was put up recently with the majority of the other 2018's with no rankings yet. The reason I specifically named Dallas is because as highly thought of as he is in the area Phillips is still the only kid that came in with any notoriety on the recruiting scene.

I wasn't giving you my personal opinion, I was going off what the recruiters think. We all have our opinions, the people that get paid for their non-biased opinions think Phillips was the best for whatever reason. I watched the parts of the Foster game I could find and the entire Celina game, I wouldn't really say one stood out over the others but there's a reason Phillips has a 247 page and not even a player like Dallas does.

I actually think the reason the games have been close with Crosby is because of the defense, nobody has been calling defenses against Crosby longer than Hancock. Dayton probably has 7 takeaways from Crosby over the last three games, including a pick 6. I think the overall problem with Dayton's defense against other teams is the lack of depth and having to play kids both ways which eventually wears them down on this level. Even their young studs played heavy minutes both ways on the freshman team.

All I said was name one that would have and who he was moving out? Malick Phillips is probably the only player that could have moved one of our kids at db and I'm not sure at probably 5-8/160lbs even he had a real chance. All I said was name one, any one. When Grace tore his ACL, Craig Williams who's a 5star running back and the #3 APB in the country, took over the job. When I say seen the field, I mean start, not come in during stat padding time. Elite players are elite at their level most of the time, otherwise they would get recruited. Once more I ask, which elite WOS player would've moved a Crosby kid off of his job? When you're talking about a two class jump the statement I made was far from ridiculous. If you look at it a different way, CE King probably had only one kid that could start for North Shore for example. That's with their qb going to Tulane and their running back going to A&M. There is no fluff, the 4A-D2 title game probably didn't have one FBS player in it. Just one class up in the 4A-D1 title game La Vega had four by themselves, Argyle had one of the better tight ends in the country that signed with Clemson. The numbers increase as the classes rise. Foster beat King by 14 in the second round a couple of weeks after we beat them by almost 40, which elite players from WOS would start on the team they lost to by 28? My statement wasn't ridiculous at all when it's put in context, and that's in reference to a team I've repeatedly said doesn't play by the same rules due to their talent level comparable to their classification.

21 of the 22 kids that played on the semi-final team a couple of years ago have signed college scholarships. When you play 5A it's nice to have a bunch of studs, if you look at a team like Ridge Point's roster which we played in the second round with guys like Mustafa Muhummad, Terry Petry, Shyler Slaton(best cover guy I saw all year), Travis Bruffy, BJ Rainford, etc. I could go on but I think you get my drift. Those studs are normal teams when you get out of bi-district from this area. The majority of the good teams in Fort Bend county have just as much or more talent than Crosby, same for the Brazoria teams like Angleton and Manvel. I ask you though, which skill players would start? Remember our 5-star running back didn't even start before our three star tore his acl against Angleton in the first quarter. One receiver might be the best in the state, the other is a 6-3 three star with ridiculous hops, who already holds multiple offers. The other receiver is a stud that coach Babin said was the best back he saw all year, and that was with Williams having like three carries for about 140 on them in the first round. If you want to get in to dbs we have Tay'lor Perry who will probably get his 4th star after this Spring, Joseph Pickney was the 21-5A defensive MVP and signed with UTEP, probably would've had more opportunities with different circumstances. It's not being cocky, I'm just stating my opinion off the players I saw against Celina. Now I'm asking you who definitely would?