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Crosby already takes charter buses to some of our playoff games. We probably would take a charter to East Tex too. Maybe if we win some more we can get some donated to take to every game.

Using Stepp's prediction it's 147 miles for them to Tomball and 166 miles to Waller. Nac is just in a bad spot next alignment. Going to be some rough Tuesday nights for them no matter where they go.

Man, if this were the case you might as well give La Porte two district titles and North Shore two free trips to the third round. I think Price probably gets King to the playoffs twice in this scenario too. I know North Shore used to play in the Pasadena district often but I really don't see a reason you would move them. Channelview and King are probably only 5 or 6 miles from North Shore.

I think you would probably switch Splendora and Caney Creek in that scenario. I hope the UIL doesn't do PLC like that again either, they should be allowed to go back to region 4 IMO. Those bi-district matchups between districts 17 & 18 would be ridiculous. It takes away the neighboring games but it does make sense for GP and Lee to play with the Galveston and Brazoria schools if that's how it goes.

Here's the article from where he got the $153K buyout. An excerpt from the article: "Despite never having coached a player who was recruited and signed by a NCAA Division I-A school, Price was 85-19 at BH after the 2006 season and had an overall winning percentage of 81.73, which at the time, ranked second all-time among Southeast Texas football coaches, according to Texas high school football historian Joe Lee Smith. Only Alex Durley, who led both Beaumont Hebert and Beaumont West Brook to state titles (and was 97-13-3, 87.17 percent), was better." [Hidden Content]

Price also went 10-0 in the regular season the first year BH came up to 4A/5A. Gage was also 9-0 and won a DC before he lost his last game of the regular season. I think the season with Gage was a bit of fools gold because he still had all of youngsters Price started the year before. I hate it for the district but I'm personally glad Price is gone to 6A, we had trouble with that guy at both BH and King.

I think it would be hard to find the money in a multi-school district that doesn't really have a high enrollment. The numbers I heard the BH guys at work throwing around are about 60k higher than what BISD started Suggs and Foreman at, I think Flannigan is still somewhere in the 80's too.

I just tried to look at the teams that finished in the top10 of the SETX rankings. Only Dayton, PNG and Ned didn't have any D1 kids. Crosby and North Shore which finished 1-2 both had 5,4 and 3 star prospects. I don't think you have to have those kids to win but I also don't think it's a coincidence Ned's best years recently was with a four star defensive tackle.

Those are just 5 star kids but you go off of that list you put up, over half of those guys made it to the NFL. Pretty accurate projections looking at 18 year olds. Your 5 star guys that usually flame out are qbs because there's really no metric to measure them coming out of high school. The people that rank these guys miss sometimes but if you look at this year's NFL draft half of the first round were four and five stars, the other half were three stars which is the most common ranking. The only 2 star drafted in the first round was Breshad Perriman who happened to be 6-2/212 and ran 4.24 at his pro day. Texas has 51 four star prospects in the '16 class, using your theory at least 45 of these kids will flame out in college which I just don't see being the case. Instead you'll probably get at least 10 of these kids make it to the NFL. [Hidden Content]

Katy is affluent like Allen is affluent, all the kids that go to Allen wouldn't fit in at the other school in Allen which is Lovejoy if you know what I'm saying without going into depth. At one point North Shore didn't lose a regular season game for 8 years straight because of the talent they had, even this year Manvel, Trinity and Westfield which they lost to were all equally as talented but it just wasn't their year. If you have the four and five star kids at the right positions there's no replacement for it, not even money and coaching as you saw at the 4A-D1 title games and up this past year. Enrollment and high level recruits might not guarantee titles every year, especially when other teams can match it given years, but it does make you a perennial powerhouse.

What BH has worked with since database was created, for some reason Dolan is missing though. BH should have 6 total kids rivals saw fit to profile: [Hidden Content] What TW has had at Allen, over 150 total kids in the same time period: [Hidden Content] When people say it's harder to win at Allen you have to take into consideration the talent to classification ratio.

IDK, but undoubtedly there's more affordable housing in Katy, North Shore, Denton and Bellmead. Pretty sure you can get a pad cheaper in West Orange than Celina too. Now we get to see if your money x coach theory works. I'm sure you now expect to BH to be like one of those teams you listed since they're now on par.

Man, +10,000 if I could give it to you. The vast majority of the time that's exactly how it works when "Crosby gets brought into the conversation". When I picked up my son from after school workouts yesterday I talked to him about the new BH coach and he said, "So, we're still going to eat". That's the top-down mentality in Crosby which is why I felt comfortable defending the staff on 2100 that's averaging over 10 wins per season.

Does Nuemann have one, maybe that's why he couldn't beat Flannigan before we fired him? He's 1-3 against Riordan though, so he is actually showing improvement. I want BH to get as good as they can possibly be, this area needs better teams in a drastic way.

I actually live in Newport, moved there in '89 from what is now the North Forest district. My parents just moved from Newport to the half million dollar spread they built in Barrett Station though, eventually when I have enough money I'll build a house on the hundred or so acres they own. You can have move-ins but you still have a base of 6k students to choose from. Meaning yeah, Kyler Murray may have moved in from Lewisville, the four D1 linemen and three D1 receivers didn't though. Keegun Williams might have moved to Cedar Hill, Avery Davis, Charleston Rambo and Cameron Buckley didn't. Crosby had two kids transfer to BH, one for basketball this year and one that will be a senior on the football team next year. The reason they left is because they couldn't play at Crosby. The reason most kids leave is because they couldn't get run at their current school, it's a lot more rare than you think to get high profile transfers because the DEC's will follow them to their landing spots and vote them down, i.e. the Oliver boys from King, Dee Anderson at Desoto and Jaylin Nelson at Duncanville just this year alone. I could go on but I think you get the drift. There's no substitute for 6k, just like there's no substitute for the 4,600 kids North Shore has run rough shot over east Houston with for the last 20 years. As far as the successful/underachieving thing, #6 Elgin was the only team we lost to in the playoffs under this staff that didn't at least make the semifinals. All those team we played had a bunch of D1 kids just like we did. TW is definitely more successful than Riordan at this point, he's also been a head coach a decade longer though. Just like TW won a title as an OC at Garland, Riordan won one in the same position at Sulphur Springs. You probably think since it was "tougher" to win at Allen that it should be "easier" to win at Barbers Hill, otherwise your argument doesn't hold water.

Well, he left A&M because of Kyler Murray. He didn't go to OU because of Kyler Murray. Now he has to come compete with a Kyler Murray clone at UH. Not to mention Bowman Sells is probably what Kyle Allen would be had he played in Texas. Very interesting to see how he does on the roster with a bunch of Texas qbs not rated as high.

I think it's all relative. The two regular season games Crosby lost over the last three years were to teams that are/going 6A. This year's loss in the D2 playoffs was to a team that had 2,348 kids and will be 6A next year. I doubt TW has ever coached a game where he didn't have the highest enrollment. Even against schools like Carroll, Guyer, Cedar Hill and DeSoto he had over double most times. In the semis he had over twice the enrollment as Westlake. The results mirror each other except Riordan has an extra playoff win over the first four years. So while TW may have done it against "tougher" competition I would think if Riordan had twice the kids of most teams he played his record would also be better than 42-8.

TW quote on Allen and coming to BH:

TW's head coaching record. Also has a 5A/6A title as an OC at Garland. First four years on the job he was 42-7, I happen to know a guy who's 42-8.

It's not really negative, just an opinion of someone who plays y'all every year. Just like it's your opinion that Crosby isn't that far ahead with all our D1 players. I just explained why I don't think Riordan is on 2100 sweating as alluded to earlier. BH just made a hire that sent shockwaves through the state. Y'all should be happy and expect immediate improvement.

Maybe so, but he better bring somebody to block for him and catch the ball too. Ain't no Greg Little's or Jalen Guyton's in BH.

Give me Riordan all day and twice on the Sunday. Westeberg's first four years at Allen look a lot like Riordan's first four years at Crosby, except Riordan doesn't have the highest enrollment in the state to choose from. He's also doing it without the four and five star transfer qbs TW had at Allen. I honestly doubt anybody on Crosby's staff batted an eye. Gage also has two 6A titles and was Riordan's whipping boy.

From Tepper:

Interesting in regards to 21-5A.

Well, that would be a start seeing as how the kids that can do that probably can't afford a house out there.