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Coach’s reaction today when they find out Crosby is in their district: [Hidden Content]

That's beside the point. Can he win a title in less than 7 years is the only question that needs to be discussed.

Actually, Stepp said he was only 99% sure of that. Honestly though, at this point in Crosby's progression I would just be happy about any class we play in where we can avoid the slot-T.

To Aledo's credit, whatever they're doing out there is obviously legal since I'm sure the UIL has checked. Yes, the qb this past year was a transfer from California. Got to see him up close last year in Dallas. They also had an offensive lineman come from California a couple years earlier, he was a 6'6"/315lbs 4* that ended up signing with Michigan. I'm sure it's all a coincidence though.

I think there's a lot of value in a PNG vs Crosby non-district game. PNG gets a test athletically and Crosby has to play in in maybe the toughest environment in 5A after a long bus ride which is similar to how the playoffs are. I think Coach P prefers to try to make us go 0-3 to start every season though?

I was going through BF's record looking at different things last week. Considering the caliber athletes on both sides, would you consider his wins against BU "quality" wins?

If they go ahead and make a 7A class, depending on how many team they put in it, I think the 6A floor could be pushed down and both Crosby and BH could be over it by the '24 alignment. That would help close the gap significantly in 5A-D2.

IDK man? With a schedule like that and the supply chain issues we're having he may have trouble finding napkins.

Yeah, they just showed up at Aledo. I watched Aledo's 1998 title game against Cuero and I didn't see one black kid on the team. Not that that part matters but somehow all of a sudden with the same 2% black population in their school you get Johnathan Gray, Jase McClellan, Jojo Earle, the Allen brothers, Jeff Carter, etc. ALL in recent years when they never had them before. Throw that in with their population explosion and Aledo is a total anomaly in the sense that their recruiting numbers look more like Arlington Martin's versus Southlake Carroll's like they should. CE King is good now. Is it because the new coach is that much better or is it because their enrollment grew by 1500 kids since they were in the district with Crosby 6 years ago? 1500 additional North Shore type kids is going to make it easier on any coach. Jon Kay has won 4 state titles in 8 years at North Shore. He might end up as the greatest high school coach ever but he's not beating Dodge, Samples, Carter and Joseph with Summer Creek's talent the way he's basically owned them while at North Shore going 11-3 in those contest. Meanwhile he's 3-5 against the Meekins brothers at Westfield. I know you don't consider them great coaches due to not having titles though. There's a huge difference between "low" expectations and realistic expectations which is where I think you're getting confused. I watched PNG play Montgomery and I would've given Montgomery a slight advantage athletically yet PNG still beat them. If PNG played Montgomery 10 times it would probably be 5-5. I watched them play Texas High the next week and the gap in athletes was more like a chasm. They could play that game 10 times and TH would probably win 9 of them. If PNG's administration can't can't objectively watch their team play and come to that conclusion then that's more on them than it is on BF.

If I see smoke coming from the windows I don't have to run inside the house to tell you it's on fire. That's not how I would define good and bad reasons at all either. A "good" reason for being pushed out is poor job performance, personal conduct infractions or a rule violation like what happened to Jeff Nelson at Ozen. A "bad" reason would be because of administrative vendettas, town "politics" or the perceived notion that you should be competing at higher level when your personnel doesn't necessarily dictate that.

What exactly am I supposed to be swinging at?

Crosby(assuming 8 team district): 1. Manvel 2. CE King 3. Deer Park or Dobie

Per the UIL these are the classifications everyone will be playing in next year: [Hidden Content] Making some basic assumptions on who will be in your district, what are your dream non-district matchups you would like to see this realignment?

I see that now, was scrolling over and saw the Clint ISD number right under the CS ISD number. Makes the region even more navigable.

Well, right now he’s the coach at Cuero so that’s all I can go off of. Plus, if Cuervo hires a new coach they’re probably going to get a guy with some pelts in the wall versus going to WOS or CS route.

Why do you say that? I don't think Alvarez is leaving after going to the semis year 1. I don't really buy into the Jasper speculation.

I think the only sure thing in 4A-D2-R3 for next year is Carthage, and that's if they don't get moved back into region II. WOS has a new coach, China Spring has a new coach plus their workhorse Major Bowden just graduated. I think there are some question marks there? Region 4 isn't going to be a cakewalk with teams like Cuero, Wimberly and Sinton who all finished ranked in the top 10 this year. Navarro is a beast over there too, knocked #8 Sinton out this year before losing in the regional final. Wimberly lost to Carthage last year in the semis but played for the title in '19 after beating Silsbee in the semis. Cuero took out Silsbee in the '18 semis and then beat Pleasant Grove for the title. If Carthage gets moved you may actually be asking to play in the harder region depending on how WOS turns out.

"Facts" are arbitrary these days, especially when you can also have "alternative facts" now. Judging from his interview where he was stating how much he loved PNG I'm sure BF's opinion on his departure is 180 degrees out from the guy that did the interview and said he left on his own accord. "Good or bad reasons" wouldn't matter, he would have to explain either one in a job interview. My first interview question to him would be, "Why are you leaving a program and community you and your family love so much to drop down and take this job if there were no issues?". If he was forced out for a "good" reason he wouldn't be getting another job as quickly as he did. If his new boss feels like he was forced out for a "bad" reason then he's probably your leading candidate and the hiring process is just a formality like it was.

I think the committee approach for the superintendent and the AD are excellent routes to go for sure. Maybe the assistant supt. also, that way you have a check on the supt.'s powers and don't end up in a situation like we did in Crosby a few years ago. There's already kind of a committee process for hiring a supt., but I would have completely different committee makeups for hiring a supt. versus hiring an AD though. I think it's tough to hire any of their subordinates that way because you're somewhat stripping them of the powers you hired them to execute? I don't think the committee should hire the girls basketball coach and then try to hold the AD responsible for the results if they suck. I think you hire those two administrators through the committee process and then allow them to build their organizations in their own effigies.

I agree in the general sense that a 100+ win coach doesn't need backing to get a job. However, if you're a 100+ win coach who has been pushed out by your current administration your new bosses are probably going to want an explanation of mitigating factors. Why would you pass up better jobs that were/are open like Pearland, Coppell, Plano East, Brenham, China Springs, Marshall, etc. for a rebuild job at SS if you're really that sought after? Now, SS may be BF's dream job and if I was the supt. I would absolutely hire him because there's probably nobody with a better resume that would apply for a job like that. I would just be very skeptical that you left on your own accord because you like our indoor facility though.

Lol, did you appreciate his entire post or just that one line? I let other BH football fans at work read your posts sometime and they find you just as entertaining as I do. Anyways, you can have it today. I'm off to the lab to try to help my "little guy" get his squat up over 500lbs before his junior season starts next year.

You're kind of reiterating what I'm saying. Every school that has a football team has those exact same costs you mentioned. I agree the overwhelming majority of schools' football programs are costing them money. What I was highlighting is that fact that those costs are more easily swallowed when programs are generating large revenue streams and that it's fine for those AD/HFC's to be compensated as such.

I know the SS job was basically a lock for BF with Riordan backing him but man, that Marshall job is open up there too right now. I didn't think Marshall was particularly well coached when we played them this past year, especially on the offensive side of the ball, but they had some legit personnel. With his offensive mindset and Marshall's talent at the skill positions I think he would've produced even better results than he did at PNG. Would've made more money, had better facilities and more talent comparable to the class than he will at SS. I know the safety of the SS job would've been tough to pass up though.

Well, we have bonds and taxes that support the local schools but I see where you're going. The teacher vs coach comparison is one that's been brought up a bunch, usually by teachers. My question back to them is "Well, how much money do you make the school?". Say you have a 10k seat stadium and a coach that's built a winning program the community supports. Say it's 65% full on average so 6500 tickets at $7 apiece. That's $45,500 in weekly ticket sales, plus add about 10k for concessions. Multiply $55,500 X 6(home playoff game included) and that's $333,000 that coach brought in that season, plus any merchandising. The AD's at some of these programs are running baby corporations on campus. Some of them are making it rain too.

There's no more money in Carthage than there is in PNG. I would say PNG is actually more well-to-do than Carthage. The difference is the Carthage community/administration chooses to pay Surratt much. So you're right, they could if they "wanted" to. The supervisor running the garage at the local refinery shouldn't be making more than the guy running your school's athletic program IMO. I think it's more of a "We used to pay this guy X amount and win, we don't need those high priced mercenaries" type situation.