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Well, they're all back now. Luckily we were able to keep the $85M in new facilities that got us into that position in the first place.
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Crosby beat the best slot-t team in the state last year to make it to the title game. Maybe losing to Vidor's slot-t the year before that helped us prepare? Good luck this season and hope y'all make it to state. We look like we're in good position to make it back to Dallas ourselves. There's no point in discussing Crosby vs Vidor games anymore really, communities are heading different directions so there's never a chance we would play y'all again. Congratulations, Vidor is 2-2 against Crosby and nobody can take that away from y'all.
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If Crosby lined up with FB Marshall tomorrow I think we would win by a bigger margin than we did last year. The offense is literally Ja'Koby Banks and nothing else. They were more dynamic last year and the qb was a better passer than Banks is. Banks is a certified track star but I don't think he's any different than lining up against Jamar Sanders. I think we would roll Texas High again this year too. Montgomery is the team that worries me because even though we could probably drop 60 on them they may be able to get clos to that on us too.
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Lol, y'all had a great night. Why were y'all down to PNG at the half the very next week while Crosby was up 35 though? If it wasn't a fluke Crosby wouldn't be currently doubling BH's average margin of victory in district play. No stats needed, just the eyeball test.
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Like you said, you put the starters back in because they didn't score enough points initially to put it away. Ok, so yards win games now and not points? As far as the best positions statistically though: Myles has 140 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against only two picks, averages 17.7 yards per completion and has 12 rushing tds on the season to go with it. Holdren has 202 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against 7 picks, averages 15.5 per completion and has 6 rushing tds. That's with Holdren play a lot more snaps than Myles too. Every coach in the district would take Myles over Holdren if given a choice. Hagler has 138 attempts for 931 and 11 tds. Jones has 112 attempts for 718 and 10tds. You can say advantage BH here but Hagler has played more and there's not a single coach in the district who's taking him over Jones if given the choice. Herndon has 25 catches for 660 and 13 tds. Kirkwood has 39 for 787 and 11tds but is the much more dynamic player. Dixon has 14 for 411 and 2tds, Womack has 22 for 405 and 7tds. You may have an argument for some coaches taking Herndon over Kirkwood but Herndon is basically a one trick pony with the deep ball, Kirkwood runs every route on the tree. BH has run 574 offensive plays and averages 7.3 per play while Crosby has run 466 offensive plays and average 7.4 per snap. To my point about BH starters playing more snaps, Kirkwood and Jones aren't even playing this week. At what skill position would you say BH is better than Crosby?
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Y'all had to put the starters back in on KP and only won by 14 while scoring 41 points. Crosby had 46 at the half and was playing backups in the second quarter, scored 67. Dayton was 49-3 at the half, let's see what y'all have at the half Friday. TC was 36-7 at the half and 50-13 after three quarters. Y'all only scored 28 on PAM. Y'all scored 35 on PNG, Crosby started playing some backups in the second quarter and still scored 69, should've been 76 but we coughed it up at their 4 yardline. Hagler and Holdren ain't worth 35 points in one quarter. You did't play backups the whole game against Santa Fe, Fuentes started because Holdren was suspended for a half but all of your other starters started. I see the stats they registered. Crosby has dropped 50+ every game in district compared to only twice for BH. Even with Carthage and Manvel on the schedule Crosby is still going to average over 50ppg this year once we get to play against Santa Fe and Nederland's defenses. All you really have to do to answer the question is ask our common opponents which offense they would rather line up against?
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Well, it was nice knowing y'all then because if this is the game of the week 14.2 will be stroked out by the third quarter.
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If PNG is going to be successful running the ball on TC it's going to be up the middle. Your interior offensive linemen have a lot better chance of getting movement against their D-line than your RB does trying to hit the outside against their speedy linebackers. TC's d-line is their weakest position on that side of the ball. Again, if PNG is going to win Friday they're going to have to consistently move people off the ball at the line of scrimmage as well as try to hit three or four big pass plays against what's probably the best secondary in the district.
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I don’t think BH has a better offense than Crosby which is why Crosby averages more points on the season and has scored more against every common opponent so far. BH plays their starters longer because their defense is worse and they play on longer fields, therefore they need to gain more yards to score similar points. Crosby’s offense has been more efficient this year.
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FB Marshall was only 1,309 on the snapshot in 2020. They were at 1,327 in 2014 but below 1,300 students in both 2016 and 2018. The school really hasn’t grown since it’s been opened. I see them eventually getting caught by the 4A-D1 cap. At schools like FB Marshall who’s enrolled vs who’s there on a given day is a lot larger than it is at schools like Barbers Hill. I did read an article where it said FB ISD accelerated a plan for building another high school and re-zoning kids to Marshall and Willowridge to relieve crowding at Ridge Point so that may be why FB Marshall has a larger enrollment this year?
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Baytown Lee opted up with 1,802 last realignment and finished 2nd in 9-5A-D1 which is the local 5A-D1 district for SETX. They should’ve been in 12-5A-D2 which is the other local 5A district for SETX but were made to play with the two other Goose Creek CISD schools which were D1 and actually ended up being the better for it. Usually your opt-ups are in multi-school districts and I can’t think of any other ones around here?
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Just looked at Stepp’s DCTF video blog and decided to look at the app for whatever reason, I couldn’t help but to notice the #10 by Crosby’s name🤔 So you can go to the finals the previous year and not be ranked the following preseason but you can lose two games and be ranked six games later? If I didn’t know any better I might mistake that for respect. *Vidor fans, take note
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Really no need for a Crosby thread this week, or for that matter next week. As long as Crosby can squeak by Santa Fe we will play from the pole position in the district no matter what happens at Nederland next week. Prior to the season starting I said Crosby would be better next year than they will be this year. Main reason I said that is because of the talent in the classes coming up the next few years. The juniors like Myles and Womack will be the centerpieces for next year’s squad but if you’re a Crosby fan you should be excited to see the future on the field Friday night. Some of Crosby’s starters will not play and as such you’re going to see a bunch of sophomores and even freshman on the field for homecoming this Friday. List of underclassmen who will be playing Friday night(I think I’m missing at least one more sophomore and possibly another freshman): Offense Kade Eudy(#13) - QB(10) Levi Fontenot (#12) - RB(10) Wesley Yarborough(?) - RB(9) Levi Langley(#60) - OT(10) *May be missing a sophomore offensive lineman here? Defense Tyler LaRive(#25) - LB(10) Jonah Griffen(#27) - LB(10) Copelin Windfont(#42) - LB(9) Brett Wright(#1) - DB(10) Joel(Jojo) Peredes - DB(10) I counted twelve of these kids during my pre-season research which is why I’m pretty sure I’m missing some? These are just the ones I know for sure off the top of my head who will be seeing extended minutes Friday night. There are no kids on the list strictly for size and athletic ability either, besides the two freshman everybody on the list has already produced on varsity this year in their giving reps.
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I don't think FB ISD overall numbers are declining. We played Ridge Point in the 5A-D2 playoffs just six years ago and now they're showing an enrollment of over 3,000 kids. The reason you don't see the exploding growth in the district overall is because a good portion of the eastern part of their district butted up to west Houston serves lower income residents like the kids zoned to Marshall and Willowridge, which aren't growing and actually shrinking like you mentioned. All the growth is on the more rural west side of Fort Bend County in Richmond, Rosenberg and Fulshear. Fort Bend ISD itself is just kind of maxed out space-wise.
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The entire 59 corridor north of the beltway all the way to Cleveland is growing like that except for Splendora. New Caney had one school in 2010 but next year will have three 5As. Matter of fact pretty much every major thoroughfare coming off the north side of the beltway has growth like that. Other districts just open more schools, Cleveland ISD has chosen not to so far but could probably really use one on the north side of town.
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12-5A-D2 stats though 8 games per the district statistician: DISTRICT 12-5A Division II (District Overall) School W-L-T Pct W-L-T Pct PF PA Crosby 5-0-0 1.000 6-2-0 0.750 384 224 Texas City 4-1-0 0.800 7-1-0 0.875 280 108 Nederland 3-2-0 0.600 6-2-0 0.750 236 168 Port Neches-Groves 3-2-0 0.600 5-3-0 0.625 263 283 Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 3-2-0 0.600 4-4-0 0.500 345 280 Dayton 1-4-0 0.200 2-6-0 0.250 217 280 Humble Kingwood Park 1-4-0 0.200 2-6-0 0.250 198 321 Santa Fe 0-5-0 0.000 0-8-0 0.000 30 344 TEAM OFFENSE GM RUSHING PASSING TOTAL AVG Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 8 2027 2088 4115 514.38 Crosby 8 1793 1707 3500 437.50 Port Neches-Groves 8 1526 1659 3185 398.13 Texas City 8 1782 1141 2923 365.38 Dayton 8 979 1853 2832 354.00 Nederland 8 1264 1363 2627 328.38 Humble Kingwood Park 8 1097 1230 2327 290.88 Santa Fe 8 617 595 1212 151.50 TEAM DEFENSE GM RUSHING PASSING TOTAL AVG Texas City 8 597 855 1452 181.50 Nederland 8 1053 1308 2361 295.13 Dayton 8 1616 1165 2781 347.63 Crosby 8 1016 1768 2784 348.00 Port Neches-Groves 8 1280 1576 2856 357.00 Santa Fe 8 1634 1306 2940 367.50 Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 8 1100 1961 3061 382.63 Humble Kingwood Park 8 2135 1631 3766 470.75
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Those were the projections. The actual 5A-D1 ceiling is 2,211 and the floor is 1,920 with Houston Waltrip being the largest D2 school at 1,919. Taking into consideration the new schools and the natural growth in the metro areas I think the 5A-D2 cutoff will be somewhere around 1,980 before potential opt-ups which may move the number another 20-25 kids and be right around your 2,003 number.
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Like BH fan said, it's a trap game for them. BH comes in knowing they should roll but if they turn it over a time or two early I can see them tightening up Dayton making a game out of it. The kids from Dayton will be looking to ruin BH's season which is the next thing to a playoff spot for them. Again, BH should roll but sometime that's exactly why it doesn't happen.
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NM, Elam said it’s only a 14 point cap. BH gets jobbed and finishes 4th in the same scenario now.
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I don’t think point differential counts against teams that aren’t tied? If TC beat both PNG and BH they would have three district losses. If Crosby beats Ned they’ll also have three district losses. Only the BH, Ned and PNG point differentials against each other would count. If 21 points is the cap then Ned would be -11, BH would be +7 and PNG would be +4. Crosby would finish 1st, TC 2nd, BH would finish 3rd and PNG 4th.
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That’s pretty wild when you look at it that way. We said we wanted tougher district play though. There is still a scenario where TC beats both PNG and BH and PNG still gets in but yeah, this is basically a play-in for PNG. Let’s see how they perform in front of the home crowd in a very winnable game even though they’ll be at a personnel disadvantage. Opportunity to play 12 games vs 10.
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TC plays defense and defense “travels”. Their offense isn’t that good but just like every other team in the district outside of Crosby, PNG probably isn’t going to score much more than 7 meaningful points on them. On the offensive side of things PNG’s defense is so porous that I don’t think TC will have much trouble grinding out 35+ points on them.
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Because I think Texas High is better than Montgomery. 2nd place will get Texas High in the area round, 3rd will get Montgomery.
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Crosby 69 Port Neches-Groves 28/Final
Cougar14.2 replied to AggiesAreWe's topic in High School Football
Agreed, we haven’t covered anything over the middle or that 8 yard our route off play-action the whole season. PAM was also having success against us with it but went away from it and BH never tried it. There were were several more plays to be made over the middle and probably a couple of TDs but to someone’s point earlier the PNG qb play isn’t what is has been in past years. I’ll say this though. PNG has significantly less talent than Dayton, yet BF still has them right in the thick of things. -
Y’all don’t. If TC wins out they are second place. BH also needs TC to beat PNG so y’all aren’t in a 5-2 tie with them which would go to PNG. Basically y’all need TC to beat PNG and then y’all beat TC the last game of the season to secure 2nd. 3rd place will be the easier draw for what it’s worth though.