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Lol, whatever bro. Good kick return

Manvel o-line mauled a nasty Dickinson front. Their backs combined for over 200 rushing yards. QB was 15-21 for 211 with two of those being drops. Secondary was a question mark coming out of preseason camp and judging from the way we played the first game IDK how much improvement we can expect to see in a week against a better qb and receiving core. We've always ran it relatively decently on Manvel but we need to show we can consistently throw the ball down the field to keep them honest. I do feel better this year than years past that we can hold up against the run but those two backs are beasts.

Cool, Crosby is a joke and y'all needed a kick return at the end of the game to beat us. Really doesn't say a lot about your program said that way does it?

Jones was running over and dragging Carthage defenders on almost every carry from the first one. He only got the ball 14 times and averaged 7.3 per carry. That makes the bold part of the statement not even possibly true since he would've needed about 70 yards on 10 carries on one drive. Stop gassing it up bro. Hatten carried your entire team the whole night, for whatever reason Crosby decided not to give him more attention. Had he stayed on the sideline with those cramps he doesn't come back in and make those two catches that ended up in those two field goals. Myles couldn't go but he definitely would've been worth more than three had he been healthy in the second half. Again, you're bumping right now because of a kick return at the end of the game. Absolutely nothing y'all did was great, you made one special teams play at the end of the game. I really think our coverage guys were caught off guard that Helburg didn't just kick it out of the back of the endzone.

Dude, Surratt went for it down 17-0 on his own side of the field, that was a straight desperation move at that point. Your o-line couldn't hold up if y'all didn't go playaction, Casey was destroying y'all. What did y'all give up, like 8 sacks? Crosby's d-line was mauling y'all the first half, and when you did manage to get a couple of rushing yards we just took the ball away from the running back. If y'all couldn't throw the ball to Hatten, Carthage literally had 0 offense. I bet he had 85% of Carthage's total yards. First cramp Myles caught was on the drive at the end of the first half. He wasn't fine the whole 3rd quarter. Before he was hurt he was at least keeping the field position flipped which is why y'all had to keep driving. Lol, the only reason you hit him is because he couldn't move. I don't even remember y'all sacking him the first half. When you play three deep coverage because you're scared of getting burned it's going to be harder to get behind guys, almost every third down Carthage bailed. It's playing smart and scared at the same time. You see Crosby checked Hatten one on one the whole night. Y'all got a kick return td at the end of the game. That is literally the only difference in the contest.

You lose to 4A Carthage the way we did and it's kind of hard to point to what the positives are going to be against a team that will be pretty decent in 6A-D2 next year. To be fair, it Carthage doesn't run back the kick and Crosby squeaks it out I would still feel the same way. Outside of North Shore, Atascocita and Westfield, Dickinson probably has the best athletes in the Houston area on an average yearly basis and they just had to get a late score to pull it out at home against Manvel. Manvel is better than Carthage at every single position group, especially QB and RB. Without some improvement on offense it's hard to see how we keep this one close.

I agree for the most part. The only thing I would say about that is Manvel is going to play us straight up more like Angleton did and there should be more opportunities for the receivers to make plays down the field. Carthage played three deep all night so there was really nothing in the seams and on the post routes, those kids will be one on one against Manvel. We've also ran the ball well every outing so far this season so hopefully we can take more advantage of that. Jones looks like he may go for 1,500 if he can get the carries and stay healthy, love the way he has improved over the last couple of seasons.

Your defense isn't that great dude, at least it wouldn't be in 5A. It should've been 31-7 at a minimum at halftime. It was poor offensive execution on our part just like y'all feel it was poor execution on Carthage's part in the first half. Jones rushed for 102 yards on 14 carries so it's not like y'all played the run great. If Myles is healthy and can take off and run the whole game it's a different story. There was virtually no RPO game with him limping around like that. You're infatuated with trying to prove what y'all are but just needed a late game kick return to beat the #12 team in 5A-D2. We lost to Manvel by 33 points last year and still went to the D2 finals, even inside of 5A it's a whole different level of competition. In 2016 Crosby played Manvel in week 2 and lost by 14 points. The next week Manvel played North Shore and only beat them by 13 points. Not in anybody's wildest dream did they think Crosby was only one point worse than NS.

With at least the same 35 point spread. One thing for sure is that they want 0 smoke with Aledo

I get accused of hating so I was trying to be generous

Come on bro. Just be glad Myles was cramping and limping around the whole second half. Carthage MAY have had 50 total rushing yards tonight, kid I saw running it in that Lindale scrimmage wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

Both coaches were coaching to win the game. Surratt was going for it on 4th down from his own 35 yardline and instead of taking the three at the end of the first half Prieto went for it on 4th and we had an open drop. There’s always going to be the question what happens if we take the FG now but the fact still remains of the Crosby receiver makes the routine play we’re probably having a different discussion You give up a freaking kickoff return for a td at the end of the game. If the Crosby kickoff guys stay in their lanes we’re probably having a different discussion. Our qb just flat out missed, as in didn’t even see, guys behind the Carthage coverage twice. That’s not coaching. Maybe you can say Carthage double-teaming Casey which slowed him down, and us deciding to continue to single cover Hatten which allowed him to carry Carthage was a coaching, but again if the dbs get their heads around we probably get s couple more picks and are having a different discussion. Crosby’s defense outplayed Carthage’s, Carthage’s offense outplayed Crosby’s, and Carthage made one special teams play Crosby didn’t. Crosby lost the game in the third phase but all three count on the scoreboard. You take your L and try to improve. I will say it’s not disappointing to see where we’re were tonight and know we still have vast room for improvement.

Great game. Carthage made one more play than we did. Tough one to lose right there.

Lol, the kid that burned y’all on the screen for the td was the first leg. Just be glad y’all got Hatten, otherwise y’all would’ve just been shut out this half.

Highland Park vs a bigger but less wealthy version of Highland Park. I’ll take the poor kids. Will be interesting to see the difference at the line of scrimmage.

We’re the champs until someone else gets to stand at the top of the podium. I promise you that you won’t be able to tell the difference though. The majority of schools that play us on a regular basis probably thought some of our other teams were faster/more athletic than the one we put one the field last year. We’ll probably look even more athletic with the jv kids out there.

Exactly. I’m not even sure those were the four fastest kids we had, they were just the four football players that decided to run track in the offseason. I think Surratt highlighted that when he said after watching the Angleton scrimmage the first thing that popped out to him was that “. . . they’re very, very fast.”

My co-worker’s son is the backup qb for BH so I got to see some of the scrimmage film vs La Porte. The o-line has a better chance of holding up than the d-line against KP but Hagler has been off ever since he hurt his ankle against Manvel a couple of years ago. I didn’t even think he was BH’s best rb last year. If they’re going to win or have a chance to, those big receivers I saw have to make some plays like they were doing in that scrimmage. That’s why I was pointing out the need to keep Holdren upright. Doesn’t matter what the receivers can do if the qb is on his back. Idk about their linemen situation but next year with some of their young skill guys being older they could be pretty salty. Those improvements might get cancelled out with the move up in divisions though.

3 of them. 2nd, 3rd and 4th leg. If those kids were fast enough to walk off on FB Marshall and Longview, what do you think we’re pulling off the shelf? Like Coach Surratt said, we’ll still be the fastest team y’all face all year.

Hate to hear that. If Crosby wins I want it to be because it was good on good. Even though Chris Marshall did multiple dumb things to get himself ejected from the regional final game it still somewhat bothers me that he wasn't on the field when we beat them.

Paetow is definitely getable, mainly because their QB can't really beat you. He has some offers but he looks a lot better getting off the bus than he actually plays. The 21 points they scored on y'all last year might not be a lot more this year but if all KP has to do is turn around and hand it off because the BH d-line can't hold up then game over. That's why you pay the coach the money though. Abseck's defensive staff has to put a scheme together that can cover for some of the personnel complications BH is going to be up against. Even if they get that handled the issue then switches to how BH scores against them? As bad as it sounds and as crappy of a coaching debut it would be for him, if I'm Abseck and watching Holdren get killed because he's holding the ball due to his receivers not being able to get off coverage I would give a hard thought to shutting him down early. More than that loss would hurt to start the season, losing him would probably wreck BH's season. I think Vype has him as the preseason offensive MVP in the district.

IDK, looking at Carthage's schedule the last five years I don't see any 5A's y'all have played that have state championship 4x100 speed. Crosby is going to be seeing multiple players of Lewis' caliber the next two weeks against Manvel and Port Arthur Memorial.

Heard the same thing from Texas High fans in regards to Clayton Smith who was a lot higher ranked than Lewis and had exponentially better film than he does to this point. I don't remember him really doing anything of consequence. Lewis is a lot closer to what Crosby saw out of current UT commit Derrick Brown. Lewis is the same size as our starting running back, we have had trouble with smaller backers like Brian Johnson at Manvel but 90% of the plays I'm watching Lewis make are because he's clean. That won't be the case with Crosby.

We can always be bigger in the trenches which is what I think you’re actually alluding to but pound for pound you’re not going to find many schools in all of 5A that can match Crosby in the weight room. Our average squat on the offensive line last year was right around 500lbs. Before we started winning a couple of games we used to be a punchline in the area because we would walk in and dominate a 6A meet but couldn’t get it to relate to the field. I’ve seen multiple linemen squat over 600+lbs at Crosby. We even had a kid on the d-line a couple of years ago what was approaching 800lbs. The kids in the trenches at Spring Westfield, which produces kids like Ed Oliver and Keondre Couburn, are stronger and more athletic than the kids in the trenches at Katy. Every now and then Katy lands a Malick Sylla but in a normal year Westfield has them. Katy would line up and run for 350 yards on Westfield though. Not because they’re stronger but because they have a tougher to defend scheme and execute it with perfection. Katy can also match them size-wise which would negate some of the athletic advantage. Katy would never ever beat North Shore and Duncanville would’ve dominated SLC of strength was a huge factor.

Lol, I'm sure if they had their 3,000 yard/50td running back from last season it would've been a different story. Looking at y'alls schedule from last year he would've been the highest rated player Carthage faced per the composite rankings.