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Baytown Lee vs PNG after the bye week
Cougar14.2 replied to prepballfan's topic in High School Football
Yes, I surely have which is why even though Lee is averaging over 50 points I said they’re probably not the favorite. I honestly thought that would go without saying, guess not? I said I wouldn’t be surprised if PNG loses because they don’t have RJ and might end up in a shootout. -
Baytown Lee vs PNG after the bye week
Cougar14.2 replied to prepballfan's topic in High School Football
Through three games Ijenea Woosley has 12 tds and 0 picks, he’s completing right at 70% of his passes while averaging almost 10ypc. He’ll probably be the district MVP this year. Including Woosley, Lee has three kids that are averaging over 9ypc. I don’t think Lee is the favorite in this game but I don’t think it’s really an upset if they beat PNG this year. -
Port Arthur Memorial 27 Galena Park 8/FINAL
Cougar14.2 replied to WOSgrad's topic in High School Football
This is an interesting score. Baytown Lee beat Galena Park 54-27 in their last game. -
Huntsville is a different team without T’Vondre Sweat. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them get beat by a couple scores tonight, they do get to play at home though. Fedora is going to be a problem for the foreseeable future in region 3 unless he takes a college job. Cons. should be in a group of three with Manvel and FB Marshall that are favorites to win the region. Even though FB Marshall already lost to Manvel this year I still they’re the better team.
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I didn’t expect this one to be nail-biter before the storm and I think Crosby has even more of an advantage now. Was surprised to see Vidor lose to a Montgomery team that will have multiple 30+ point losses themselves this year. Looks like Vidor has switched to some variation of a 3-4 defense this year. I’m not sure that’s beneficial to the personnel they have on the defensive line? Vidor likes to walk up those two outside LB/SS types to help set the edge meaning there’s a lot of matchups in the secondary Crosby should be able to win. Will be interesting to see if the qb is eligible tonight? Either way, Coach Prieto should get his first win tonight just with the advantage he has in the trenches.
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Vidor barely broke 300 yards rushing that game on like 70 carries. Crosby is the team averaged close to 10ypc and had over 400 yards. Crosby had turnovers and probably over 100 yards in penalties. Not that the actual facts of the game matter on here, but Crosby couldn’t stop the 3 and 4 yard carries and lost to a team that played better than them that night.
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We beat PNG with TCU signee Dominic Merka also, another dynamic player. Also lost with him. We won more games and went further without those dynamic players because the next years we had even better players overall. Point is that we always have those kids, y’all don’t. You don’t win those games without RJ, he literally accounted for every single td one game. Y’all won, you deserve all the credit. I’ve seen Crosby lose to enough great players to realize that’s why we lost, not because of how good the program is or how much tradition you have. I felt the same way when Crosby lost to Nederland in 2012 with Deshawn Washington, they were only that good because of him and haven’t been as good since. They lost every matchup they played against Crosby without him until last year when we had mailed it in. That wasn’t a popular statement then and the RJ one isn’t now. It’s a fact though, all the number show it for both teams. I think they going to be closer to 1,900 but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Crosby’s enrollment is close to 2,000. We better to be able to beat a team who without a player like RJ on average has middle of the class talent. If Crosby can’t beat a team like PNG regularly, how can we expect to do anything more than win a district championship. PNG may be top 10 in DCTF but if you really allowed all the DFW/East Texas schools to be ranked it would be closer to #25. That’s what I know and that’s what I judge Crosby of where they need to be vs where they painfully are at times. Remember how trash New Caney was 10 years ago. Same name but you think that’s the same school?
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Absolutely it matters. I’ve learned long ago Crosby needs 4 state championships to be considered a better program. But to your point, yeah. Those wins 20 years ago have 0 bearing on what I think the programs are today. Crosby could go 3-7 and lose to PNG this year and I would still feel the same way. Those wins overlap from the end of PNG being really good and Crosby being bad from the 90’s into the early 2000’s. Probably 6 wins for PNG in those years. They earned them, we sucked and they didn’t. My whole point is that PNG never has kids like RJ, especially that play qb. It took them having that type of player working his magic in the last minutes to beat us the last two years. Switch those and recent history looks different.They literally went for playing for a state title to falling off a cliff and haven’t had a run like the past three years since. I’m saying RJ is the sole reason for that, otherwise PNG doesn’t really fit the profile for a team that can even win the region, much less a title. I think that Crosby with a quickly growing population and enrollment vs PNG with a pretty stagnant one has a better chance on average of producing a better football team. Crosby and PNG used to have similar enrollments, now they’re pulling away enrollment wise and should theoretically start to have better and better players than PNG. Therefore, even with what I think is a Flannigan-esque coach Crosby should be better year to year in today’s landscape. That’s how it works in the suburbs where they have a legitimate shot at winning. Crosby’s probably going to be 6A in six years, PNG might be knocking on the door of 4A-D1 in which they may be a juggernaut. What I’m saying should be a given.
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Smh, I knew you were lying without even checking. If I’m not mistaken, which I’m not, the last team from this area to win the region was Crosby. Before that it was Dayton, when was PNG’s? We don’t recruit, the 3 qbs we’ve had go D1 in the last 5 are all from Crosby. Would be 4 out of 5 if Howard doesn’t tear up his knee. Same for for the backs and receivers. Don’t get butt hurt now and say we’re recruiting because because you got caught in a lie, and went back to see what y’all have really been without RJ. All that honor, pride, tradition has been all Roschon Johnson. Just accept that, that and the fact that you probably won’t get another RJ for 20 more years.
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We’re not even in the same hemisphere as the real contenders around the state. Other than Katy and East Bernard, none of the schools that have won titles recently from down here do it with coaching and program. From NS to George Ranch all the way back to La Marque we’ve always won because of the level of athlete we could put on the field comparative to the classification. I was in Frisco watching my son play the other day and pulled into Independence High School on accident, I was looking for Heritage which was a half mile up on the same street. I sat in the stands for a while waiting for the game to start while the varsity practiced. After 30 mins I said, “They would beat any team on Crosby’s schedule by 20+”. They were 6-5, finished 4th in their own district and lost to Highland Park in the first round. Shadow Creek ran through the region in their first varsity season and played for a title, Lancaster was 7-4 last year and just as good as Shadow Creek. We compete to beat each other for bragging rights to get blown out in the playoffs, most of the 5A and 6A schools in Dallas play with a former state champion in the district. DFW and Austin are pulling away further and further on an annual basis. Houston suburbs are barely outplaying San Antonio at this point.
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Without even going all the way back I can for sure tell you Crosby and PNG haven't played 15 times since 2000. 3 or 4 years of glory, we made the playoffs for 14 years straight before our situation last year. PNG's longest playoff streak since 2000 is the current 5 year steak RJ is 60% responsible for. PNG made it past the area round once before RJ. Barring the last three years of RJ, Crosby also has more playoff wins since 2000. I can show you some more data on how y'all have really only had about 3 good years without him in that time but I don't want to seem too dumb. He was a great player who made up for a lot of warts, now you're back to trying to find another Adam Morse or Ky Walker. Nothing wrong with that, it's just a fact that in the changing Texas high school landscape your are what you are with out a unicorn wearing #2 leading the way.
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Enjoy that big boy. RJ is at Texas though. Now you’re back to being the same PNG you’ve been since the turn of the millennium. Y’all looked comical trying to run that draw play you used to with RJ, especially without Garth.
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West Orange Stark vs Crosby - GAME CANCELLED
Cougar14.2 replied to tennisbc's topic in High School Football
Almost a decade on this site and you still run into the s.o.s. Even after Crosby has a trash year you literally can’t make a positive prediction using any pertinent data without finding one of these. Literally in one post the thread went from “a Crosby poster” breaking down their last game nobody here saw and making the statement, “I wouldn’t be surprised to see Crosby win 9 in a row based on some other things I’ve seen in the district so far”, to “a Crosby poster” saying “ they should run the table”. “Scoring will be rare without trick plays”. “WOS will not be able to handle Crosby’s o-line”, etc. That’s not even trash talking, it’s just pure bs in a place that was created to, I’d imagine, raise the knowledge level of what’s going on with high school sports in the coverage area. -
I guess you would have to say PNG doesn't have any "O" either this year? Crosby has played two games against two 5A opponents and scored 35 total points. PNG has played two games against two 5A opponents and scored exactly a field goal more. You can't possibly be talking about putting up points against Silsbee who gave up 52 to Newton the very next week and over 42ppg on average for the season so far?
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West Orange Stark vs Crosby - GAME CANCELLED
Cougar14.2 replied to tennisbc's topic in High School Football
Looks like you're the only one has seen Crosby this year? This definitely isn't one of the Crosby teams of old but they way the new coach runs the offense is going to be harder for WOS to defend. I don't think these are the WOS teams of years past either though. Crosby was a dropped snap at the Manvel 3 from making it 34-39 and that's with their top receiver out. Kid had 4 catches for 145 on a very good NC secondary and will be back for WOS. Thing I liked from Crosby against Manvel is that they ran the ball for over 300 yards against a solid front and averaged right around 8ypc. Passing game needs work as far as completion percentages go but I'm not sure this coach is worried about that. With speed we have on the outside at receiver and the sheer amount of deep balls thrown, I think rather caught or not they serve their purpose which is to keep defenders out of the box. You can make the assumption though that IF they catch it they're gone. Crosby should haul in multiple deep balls against WOS but I think it's going to be the O-line firing off 40-50 times on running plays that will cause the most issues for the Mustangs, especially late. Defensively, if WOS doesn't use a trick play like they did last year to score right before the half I really don't see them breaking 21 on Crosby without Crosby getting a bunch of penalties which is highly likely. Manvel probably doesn't even break 30 if Crosby doesn't commit defensive penalties, mainly in the secondary, to extend a couple of their drives. Defense is a lot more aggressive than years past and probably the most talented since 2015, they'll make some splash plays but are somewhat inexperienced. If you don't have someone like Zion Childress running the ball from the qb spot then you're going to need a very good O-line and an accurate passer to really put points up against Crosby, they have plus athletes at all three levels on defense this year. This will be Crosby's only real road trip left on the schedule besides the one to PNG. Based on what I've seen from the district so far, I wouldn't be surprised if Crosby wins this one that they go ahead and peel off 9 in a row. -
Question I would ask here is, “Who has the best win, and who has the worst loss?” Lee has looked good so far but Dayton beat Lee’s toughest opponent to date worse than they did. PNG best Silsbee in a good game, Newton destroyed them the next week. They beat Tomball by 3 tds but Tomball Memorial already beat them by 5 tds I’m the opener. BH lost by 4 scores to Magnolia who was beat 49-0 the vey next week by Shadow Creek, but they probably have the best win in the district against KP. KP has already lost to Angleton by 30+ though. Crosby could beat WOS by a couple tds Friday and probably be the favorite next week. There’s still a lot of fluidity. Couple of predictions that I’ll make about Crosby; I expect them to have the best statistical defense in their 7 district games and I also expect them to rush for over 2,000 combined yards in those contest. Still need to figure something out in the passing game though.
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Man coach, as long as Crosby doesn’t drop the ball I don’t think they lose to WOS. They have two weeks to prepare and WOS will be coming off a physical road game with Newton themselves. Crosby has see their two most athletically/physically imposing opponents on their schedule. I’m a believer in the higher the classification, the more important role the line of scrimmage plays. Crosby ran the ball for over 300 yards on Manvel and averaged over 7.5ypc, that’s especially impressive considering sacks are factored into your rushing yards in high school. We can’t consistently throw the ball but nobody has really covered the receivers either yet. Offensively I think Crosby is going to be able to control the line of scrimmage once district play starts and pretty much run the ball on anybody. I think we execute poorly right now because the kids in key roles are young, plus they’re learning a new offense. No doubt three or four games from now they’ll be a completely different team. There’s nothing you’ve seen happen in the district so far except Lee destroying people that makes you say, “Dang, they’re good.” Even with no real qb and the team being a little light on discipline IMO, I don’t see why they can’t win the district playing this style ball. Crosby also has what should be the most favorable schedule in the district, outside of one trip to PNG I really don’t see a game I wouldn’t favor Crosby in. Depending on if Lee beats them first I might even change that.
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I know Crosby fans are disappointed with not even being able to break double digits for the first time since 2012(Rio’s first game), but look at the bright side. The 8 points Crosby scored on New Caney is probably 8 more than Prieto will be able to dial up in Brazoria County tomorrow. On the flip side I think the district is still weak enough to win. Probably not a good thing if you want Prieto gone though. With Crosby about to turn in an enrollment over 1,900 I would imagine this is the only year he has a shot at having a respectable record before the school board starts to hear rumbling. Was in Frisco watching my son play yesterday and you truly get the grasp of how far away the 5A schools in this coverage area are.
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Man, you must not have seen Crosby play after Howard got hurt? Good luck to him in Chapel Hill, he looked good in their first scrimmage but I haven't seen anybody start a game at qb for Crosby that was that inept since 2003. His dad was a coach though, so . . . ? Crosby lost absolutely nothing with that transfer, losing Noel Wright is a different story. I expected him to go for around 1,500 this year but there's another back in the pipeline I like and I'm sure there's another young Sqwirl, Walter or Casey to pair with him. If the qb gets cleared he's going to probably rush for 1,000+ yards himself in Prieto's offense.
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He's clear from the GCM side of things
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He definitely needs to improve but I saw him throwing darts in 7 on 7. It's hard to be effective when the rest of the team around him is low on talent and poorly coached like GCM was. GCM receivers couldn't get off coverage and when they did get open it was like watching an 8th grader run with the ball. I watched the PA Memorial film where it just looked like the kid was out there by himself. I don't expect this coach to rely on his passing skills, I expect that he's put into a position where he can maximize his running ability. His offense at Vet's looked a lot like what NC used to do with Jordan Cooper, lots of read option and quick high percentage passes.
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Similar numbers over the past decade and it's had no effect, especially as your enrollment increases and the talent pool expands. Prediction wouldn't seem strong at all if Howard doesn't tear his ACL in that mudhole.
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I still do think the coach is in over his head and expect to get killed by NC and Manvel. I feel like he can at least do as good a job as Westeberg does at BH considering the talent he fell into at Crosby and the fact that this district doesn't have any really good teams. Has absolutely nothing to do with the scrimmage, Crosby could've gotten killed and I would still feel the same way. That Kool-Aid comment is funny, y'all actually had to improve to get to sub-par under TW.
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If the QB gets cleared expect Crosby to win the district. If not, who knows? With him clear, Crosby in all likelihood is a 40+ ppg team. Should look pretty similar to how we did before Howard got hurt last year. QB ran a 10.6 100M as a sophomore last year. Just for context, Craig Williams ran 10.3 at the state meet as a senior. Lot of speed on the field even for a Crosby team, especially at receiver. Defense should be one of the better Crosby defenses even though that’s not saying much. With that being said there are still some things that need to come together to turn around last year’s train-wreck. Therefore, I really have no expectations.
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JERRY PRIETO NAMED NEW AD/HFC AT CROSBY
Cougar14.2 replied to dillonpanthers's topic in High School Football
With the coach Crosby has hired there's absolutely no reason to think that they should finish better than 3-7 next year, but I'll tell you what? If this qb transfer gets signed off on we might look like we did the first four games of the season before Howard tore his ACL on Vidor's raggedy arse field last year. The way things have been going lately he probably won't though, meaning we'll be throttled by New Caney at home to open the season and all 500 Crosby fans that go to the next home game against Vidor including the "give him a chance people" will be expressing their angst for Coach Prieto early and often. So much to look forward to . . . On the flip side, watch what Coach Freeman goes over to CE King and does with their offense. He'll be coaching in the premier facility in East Harris County and has an explosion of athletes heading his way, leaving Crosby was a blessing in disguise as we turn into west-Dayton.