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Playing Manvel skewed Crosby’s defensive numbers. If Dayton had to play them you’re probably looking at something like 77-0 in which case the Bronco defensive numbers would look much worse. Dayton gave up more points to Porter than Crosby did to Manvel, Dayton just has that missed layup against Galena Park on the schedule to help their numbers. BH’s offense isn’t as good as when TW first took over but watch how many points Dayton gives up if the weather allows. Dayton can still be a factor by just running the ball and playing solid defense but for whatever reason they still feel like it’s a good thing to average less than 10 yards per pass completion and kill their offense. Dayton just doesn’t have the qb play anymore to try to win games through the air, lean on the rbs to shorten the games and get timely stops. Seems like Nations has other ideas though.

Dayton is averaging 14ppg on offense. Dayton is giving up over 31ppg on defense. I’m going to go out on a limb and say those numbers aren’t representative of the #5 offense and the #2 defense but the Baytown Sun may use different algorithms for their calculations?

It’s all good, that’s usually what happens when the new kid comes to school and steals all the girls.

You didn’t run well on Crosby last game and they weren’t in it until the end. Vidor was down 12 at the half and didn’t score again until there was 1 min left in the 3rd quarter, Crosby scored 3 mins later to go back up by 11 and Vidor never got back inside double digits until Crosby ran a safety out of the back of the end zone to kill the clock. Just becuase Vidor runs the ball a lot doesn’t mean they’re s better running team than Crosby. In two meetings Vidor has 125 rushing attempts for 662 yards, Crosby has 46 rushing attempts for 507 yards. Crosby averages over double what Vidor does per attempt. Nobody cares about the wet field, it’s just makes y’all even slower. Meanwhile you proved my point, BH slaughtered Vidor on a wet grass field yet Vidor played Crosby better on a turf field later. No matter the weather conditions I think Crosby comes in and makes a statement to open district play.

New Caney is probably the best game we’ve played to date but we missed a couple tds on the offensive side and New Caney had too many receivers running open in the secondary to really feel good about that one. NC’s qb just couldn’t consistently put it on the receiver plus they had some drops, one of which was a for sure TD. I agree that the bye week wasn’t as beneficial as it should’ve been, seems like the kids spent more time enjoying themselves and talking trash on social media than they did refocusing on their next opponent. On the other hand, I feel like Vidor is catching Crosby at a bad time.

I’m not one of the Crosby/BH fans that like to see Dayton down but it is what it is. This week’s games being the one month mark into the season I think it’s safe to say that Dayton is clearly the worst team in the district. You should never use the transitive method to compare teams but when you can cross-reference it with a weekly digression then I think it becomes more relative. Since playing Friendswood to a respectable defeat Dayton has followed it up with a home loss to Galena Park and a 32 point throttling by Porter. I saw BH play KP in person and it looked like two 6A jv squads going at it but that should still be more than enough to beat Dayton this year so I would give BH the edge in this one. Dayton on the other hand can change the whole outlook of their season with a win Friday, and at the end of the day the Broncos will still have the advantage pretty much everywhere on the field except the sideline. With Vidor and Nederland being undefeated off strong non-district performances and PNG getting RJ back I don’t think there’s any way to see this game other than a playoff eliminator. It sucks to have that type of game this early in the season but that’s where the programs are right now.

I really don’t have anything for you statistically? Like CCRed says, rushing statistics aren’t necessarily comparable when you’re playing Vidor. I can give you my perspective though. In order for Crosby to make it a no doubter I think they need to turn Vidor over a time or two and hold them to less than 4ypc, anything short of that probably makes the game more interesting than Crosby fans would like. That’s factoring in bad field conditions, if it’s nice enough for Crosby to throw it around the yard I think things become tougher for the Pirates. To get close to answering your question I’ll say this run defense is as good as the one we leaned on to get to get to the semifinals. Against WOS in the rain Crosby ran for 333 yards on 48 carries and had five rushing tds scored by five different players. The reason I feel bad weather may favor Crosby is because Vidor does a bunch of misdirection/slight of hand type stuff that becomes more difficult with a wet ball. I honestly believe Crosby can pound Vidor into submission with the run game if need be which is one of the advantages of being this largest school in the district. What I would be concerned with most playing Crosby is that they haven’t come close to putting a complete performance together yet.

I’m not going to comment on any of your facetiousness but I’ll just point out that Crosby is going to be ranked #4 in D2 and #10 in the overall AP poll when the new rankings come out. Appreciate the compliment. Looking forward to seeing y’all for homecoming in a couple of weeks. Score predictions can be subjective but I will say I think this one is over by the time the homecoming queen is crying.

Crosby has one turnover the entire season and has beaten two perennial title contenders in games where it rained at some point. Barbers Hill came into the Boneyard and beat Vidor 40-6 on a field in such poor condition they didn’t even allow their band to march. Crosby had trouble once with Vidor and now he coaches at Tomball. Last time Crosby played Vidor they only got to run 28 offensive plays, four of which were punts, and scored 33 points. Vidor ran 73 offensive plays and scored 22 points with no turnovers per the Chronicle. Once again, that defense was also a few notches below this one especially when it comes to run defense. Rain may help Crosby, Vidor actually threw for 84 yards last matchup.

Appreciate it, throws me off sometime how Maxpreps lists the game

Santa Fe’s qb Nathan Kruger is going to be second team all district and is more than capable of coming out and throwing for 300+ yards on Nederland if they miss a few assignments. Austin Lamb, his top target, is averaging about 150ypg receiving and will be a factor. Interested to see how Nederland plays after making the 2+ hour bus ride.

I’m with you all the way but like you said, at the end of the day we still have to consider the body of work to date. The rain was certainly a factor but if Crosby wants to get rid of that front-runnin/finesse stigma these are the type grind-it-out wins we need to pile up. I think the o-line will be fine, WOS’ dbs caused most of the problems you saw up front. They looked pretty much like NC did in the secondary. I also think that was the best overall defensive unit left on our schedule and we’re talking about the offense scoring 35 points in the rain.

IDK how well WOS will throw the ball from the qb position the rest of the season but their fan base should feel confident they’ll be able run the ball and play defense possibly to another title game appearance. Was also impressed by how clean they played tonight.

For the second game in a row Crosby comes out and looks surprised their opponent is actually there to engage in a contest? Still trying to figure out WTH that is about? Heaven forbid we show up and play like this next week in Vidor with their ability to shorten games on Crosby. Still a very salty and resilient win by Code Red. WOS could’ve very well been the best team left on our regular season schdule but we’re playing with fire. To compound tonight’s slow start Crosby decided it would be a good night for the referee to practice his casting motion. Crosby is notorious for holding, WOS played great defense and got multiple holding calls that Crosby normally gets away with to go their way. With all that being said Crosby couldn’t be in a better position heading into district play. *FB Marshall goes for two on the first possession in OT tonight and beats Manvel 52-51 tonight. After a scintillating non-district performance I think it’s safe to say 5A-D2 region 3 will be won by Manvel, FB Marshall, A&M Consolidated or Crosby.

Yes 35-24 Crosby

Good game. The game is three phases and four quarters. What you saw in the first half is why WOS has played for four consecutive titles and what you saw in the second half is why Crosby is one of the favorites to win the regional title.

No, I didn’t think we would win when we were down 21-0 but if you look at my post at halftime you can gather I thought we had a good chance to. After the first ten minutes of the game I was just hoping to keep it respectable, opinion changed shortly thereafter. You can always go back and look at the thread for verification.

That’s usually people’s go to in reference to Crosby when they can’t make a point. It is what it is and we are what we are. We could very well get A&M Consolidated in the 2nd round and finish 11-1 again? We don’t get layups until the regional finals like WOS does most years after they spilt the classification, otherwise WOS probably doesn’t even play for four titles if Carthage and Navasota were still in the region. That’s not a slight to WOS either, they beat who’s placed in front of them and do it in impressive fashion the vast majority of the time. Now let’s see if they can beat Crosby.

My post made my point. Crosby scored 28 on NC and won with defense. To prove we won with defense I highlighted NC’s offensive efficiency in their most recent sample. In that particular game Crosby needed to score 49 to beat what’s probably the most elite rushing attack in our classification. If Crosby stays healthy their defense is going to be one of the top five in the region, therefore not needing to average anywhere close to 50. I rarely swing and miss, I just didn’t realize you needed an extended explanation to get the point.

LMAO if you think WOS is anything near Manvel. They don’t even have the offensive firepower New Caney does but at least it’s a closer comparison. New Caney just rushed for 510 yards on Willis in their last game, Crosby held them to 121 yards on 34 carries in the season opener. You’re right they went on the stat sheet as turnovers but other than one mishandled exchange, I like to call them takeaways. Pash rush leading to interception, Garrison Johnson hit hard during a spin move and Hunter Bailey with a kill shot on Ladarius Owens. Video evidence below: [Hidden Content]

This statement highlights what I've been saying. WOS needs to score points if they're going to be only the second team in five years to come into Crosby and win, yet they're still just trying to figure out how to get first downs? If doing what the qb does best involves him running he's going to have a hard time completing the game, on the other hand any time he drops back to throw is a plus for Crosby. Unless there are bad weather conditions this game will probably go similar to how WOS' game with Foster went in 2015 but WOS still went on to win a state title that year while Foster finished 10-3. Good thing for Crosby is that they've already been punched in the mouth, down 21-0 to Manvel and came back to win. I just don't see WOS showing Crosby anything they haven't seen from Angleton, New Caney or Manvel already this year. WOS wants to see those Crosby teams that score 50+ a game and don't play any defense, not this one.

Flannigan coaches the team PNG played. The new school is Tomball Memorial and they’re on their way to being beast in a few years. The area over there is exploding and TM is getting an influx of talent.

This is the neighborhood Flannigan was in when he left Westbrook. He started at $105k at Tomball and will be around the $110k mark next year.

Crosby basically put 50 on Manvel if they'd let us kick the XP but you believe WOS will hold Crosby to 28? Manvel beat their other two opponents a combined 110-6. Meanwhile if you remove the LCM game WOS is truly averaging about 9.5 offensive points per game and you think they're going to somehow get 31 on Crosby? NC's offense is exponentially better than WOS' at this point in the season and they were held to a hot 14 points at home, they just put 68 on Willis after putting 38 on what will be the 6A HISD district runner-up behind Lamar. Crosby can come out and turn the ball over multiple times and get in trouble but if that's not the case I don't see how WOS gets anywhere near a win. By the way, PG was significantly better than WOS that day. Better qb play, better offensive execution and better on both sides of the lines of scrimmage. *Key the, you don't know what they've done in the past talk.

I think he’s talking about across the river. I would say PAM is the best job in SETX if your primary goal is winning games. When you factor in pay, athletes and facilities it’s hard not to look at it like Harrison did. His starting pay was $109,100, he has FBS talent to spare and he gets to play home games at Turner stadium. Westeberg probably makes north of $140k but I would be willing to bet there’s 40+ coaches in the Houston area that make at least $110k. It’s tough to lure a good coach without a paycheck unless he’s a homegrown guy when schools like Caney Creek pay their coach $110k+ and aren’t even expected to go to the playoffs. I imagine it was just the opposite in the ‘70s for SETX.