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I really like Crosby’s chances in the actual game. I think it’s pretty straight forward for the Cougars. Manvel is anchored by an SEC commit on the o-line and a Big XII commit on the d-line. Can Crosby minimize Johnson and Owens gashing them in the run game, and can Crosby keep the chains moving enough in the run game to maximize the big play opportunities that will be few and far between? Crosby has to play clean on both sides of the ball but I think the defense will surprise some people in this one. The Manvel team we played a couple of years ago had more talent than this current one and I’m almost certain this version of Crosby is better than the ‘16 squad, Mavericks won that one by 14 at home. This year’s game is in Crosby with the Cougars having an opportunity to silence a lot of doubters. Hopefully this is the first of two matchups.

Don’t worry, I’m just here through Labor Day. Had a week off between T/A deliverables. Everything will be “ . . . a good game” again Tuesday.

The same amount of times as Manvel.

Listen, I wasn’t the valedictorian of my class and if you had more than two people in yours I’m sure you weren’t either. Crosby has 12 playoff wins in the last 10 years. Simple math tells you that equates to 1.2 playoff wins per season. That’s over quintuple what Vidor averages but that’s neither here nor there. First, I posted the wrong totals in my original post. My bad on that one, I used an 11 year period instead of 10. Secondly, for him to say we only averaged .7 playoff wins a season over a ten year period means he had to make the assumption that we went 10-0 every season which is idiotic. I realize that’s like quantum physics deep, but it’s a prime example of how things get blown out of proportion on this board when you can just take a couple minutes before you post and see that it isn’t correct.

Guy is from Barbers Hill. He wouldn’t know what a winning team looked like unless they were showing the film in technicolor.

Correction, that should be 08-17 and we averaged 9 wins per season. Who said anything about a dynasty other than the people doing those rankings? People on this board are so quick to jump on something, yet you can do no research to prove your point? I asked you a simple question, find another team in Houston that’s won more games over that period? Who has even had the opportunity in this area to play 23 playoff games in that span? According to you this information should be extremely simple to find. It’s not Crosby’s fault the district was weak because we had teams like Barbers Hill and Lee in it. You want to throw out a first round playoff loss last year, yet you don’t point out that’s was only Crosby’s 2nd first round loss in the last decade. Again, find me a Houston team that’s 8-2 in the bi-district round over that period besides Manvel? Don’t be the guy that gets caught up in the myopia. I know you don’t pay near the attention I do to this stuff but I’lI let you in a on little secret. Other than Manvel, Houston hasn’t had a consistent 5A heavyweight since La Marque dropped classes. Crosby, Dayton, La Marque, Manvel, Dawson and George Ranch are the only 5A teams to even win a regional 3 title in the last decade. Foster has won the last two titles cleaning out region 4. Houston has mediocre 5A football compared to Central Texas and the DFW/East Texas area so Crosby gets the nod by just being above average for a long time. Unlike you, I have numbers to back up my facts. I don’t just factualize my opinion like you did in your previous post. Throw something else out, I’ll wait . . .

I assume you’re a smart guy. It’s a real simple exercise. Go back a decade 07-17 in the Houston area and find a team that has 95 regular season wins plus 12 playoff wins. Crosby averaged 10.7 wins per season during that period. There’s nothing to stretch, I’ve just been gone so there’s an information void.

I’m reporting information someone else has compiled since the research I used to take my time and do on here for people was deemed useless: [Hidden Content] No matter how you feel about Crosby, the numbers are what they are. Y’all just keep paying that $350k a year to the Westeberg family to miss the playoffs. Don’t be surprised if BH receives a generational arse whipping from Crosby this year.

Jaiden Howard TD run highlighting some of the physicality that was on display by Crosby last night. In all fairness to the NC defender, I really don’t think he was looking for any smoke: [Hidden Content]

Manvel is coming off a woodshed beating of Clear Lake and Crosby is coming off a solid win against long time district foe New Caney. Can Crosby get a win in their home opener or is Manvel tired of hearing about how they should be falling off with Shadow Creek opening? DCTF has Manvel ranked preseason #2 in 5A-D2 and Crosby ranked #7 in the same poll. Manvel will definitely have the advantage in the trenches but can Crosby make up for it in other areas like qb play? Manvel and Crosby have been two of the top 5A teams in the Houston area for the last decade, Manvel is up 1-0 in the all-time series. The scene in Cougar Stadium Friday night should be unreal.

Little surprised by this one? Not really by the loss, but by the score and style in which they lost. Figured the level of athlete United could put on the field would give them a punchers chance, new school or not. Was looking forward to see what this school could do for the community but even if you give United wins over Nederland and Sterling it’s hard to see how they finish .500? As somebody who like to see schools like this do well, I really wish they would’ve gone down a different route in their coaching search instead of going Dayton-style. Bunch of young coaches out there hungry to get their hands on the type of athletes United has.

With Austin’s stud qb transferring to FB Marshall the only other potential loss I see for NC on the schedule is PA Memorial? If NC can tighten up some in the front seven against the run game y’all could be dangerous.

They usually make an adjustment by now but it’s the Chronicle, meaning the stats are probably just off. Crosby’s Maxpreps site will have the correct numbers posted sometime this weekend.

Box score: [Hidden Content]

Box Score: [Hidden Content]

Baytown Lee 55 Houston Westbury 6

Y’all lost by 30 though. Not saying Crosby won’t lose by 30 to Manvel next week but you pay the big money for wins. Everything you said makes a valid point but Westeberg is probably making more money than Gary Joseph, who the Chronicle just listed as the highest paid coach in the area north of $136k. I personally don’t think this game is any indication of how BH’s season will turn out but you can’t keep giving people passes for what someone did at another school. A school that just went 16-0 last year.

Kind of what I expected in this one. NC’s qb struggled to be consistently accurate, otherwise this is a completely different game. Crosby busted several coverages early in the game and Childress couldn’t put it on them, that was compounded by some untimely drops by his receivers. NC has about a legit a secondary as you’re going to find in the Houston area, where Crosby had an advantage was at the line of scrimmage and qb play. Shout out to the Code Red defense. NC had four drives in the first half that started at the 50 yardline or in Crosby territory and the Cougars held on three, including one that started inside our own 10 yard line. There are some thing to clean up on the back end but I’ll go ahead and say this is at no worse the second best defense Coach Riordan has had during his tenure at Crosby. As long as everybody can stay healthy the offense will probably average somewhere between 37ppg and 43ppg, Crosby missed a couple tonight but NC’s defense is also pretty good. All in all a pretty impressive win for Crosby considering the level of athlete NC put on the field.

I agree NC's strength will be their secondary but that's a huge hit losing McGlothern to CHTC. What's probably even more of an issue is having to play Childress at qb after losing Cooper, great athlete but is going to struggle to throw the ball consistently with any accuracy. I would say position group by position group that there might be some ties but I don't see NC with an advantage anywhere from the scrimmage film I've seen. I don't think Crosby will have much trouble with NC in the trenches either. NC is notorious for slow starts to the season and I think getting Crosby right out of the gate vs getting fired up to play a 9-0 Crosby at the end of the season is a disadvantage for NC. As far as the rb's, we just plug and play. We go three deep at the rb position but I think #24, Noel Wright, is going to be an FBS caliber back when its all said and done. He should easily hit the 1k yard mark barring injuries. Crosby is very capable of coming out like last year and trying to go through the motions and getting beat. This year's team plays for each other though, so I don't see that happening. I definitely don't see Crosby's starters giving up 38 on defense, nor do I see the offense being held to 28 by anyone on the current schedule. I think it's going to be a dogfight for at least a half but I think Crosby eventually pulls away by a couple of tds.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Angleton is extremely physical and player for player probably the best team we would line up with even if we were to make a state championship run. Angleton moved it well on Crosby during the controlled portion of the scrimmage but I think one of the instances you’re talking about them moving it through the air was #11 catching that TD over the middle? QB was looking back of the end zone and most likely a pick but #11 jumped up underneath and caught it. QB made some good throws and looks a lot better since we played him as a freshman. Crosby is breaking in new rbs and o-linemen, it was going to be learning curve regardless. Y’all made it damn near impossible to run the ball, so scoring off screens when you’re caught in blitzes is what we do. I would argue Crosby missed two more scoring opportunities when the qb underthrew a wide open #10 down the sideline in the controlled potion and also in the live portion when he threw the screen into the dirt when Crosby had y’all caught blitzing again. You can put those on the board a couple weeks from now. Deep threat that wasn’t playing would’ve helped but oh well. Good scrimmage by both teams, most importantly nobody got hurt that I saw. I would say Angleton looked a little better than Crosby at his point in the season, still very optimistic about where I think Crosby can end up if we improve on couple of things.

1. Crosby - On paper we won't have the high end talent of years past but as a Crosby fan you almost have to be giddy over the depth and pure athleticism the Cougars will put on the field. Two biggest question marks will be how the new DC covers up some of the size deficiency we have on the d-line and if Martin/Clay can supplement what we lost in the run game with Williams' graduation? Passing game should be even better than last year with the addition of Doucett. Crosby gets what might be their toughest test of the season right out of the box against New Caney who probably has the best secondary in the entire Houston area and will be the most athletic team on Crosby's schedule besides Manvel. 2. Barbers Hill - BH still has issues with physicality and speed. I'm picking them second because there isn't much of either in this district. I'm not a big believer in t-shirt football but BH's transfer qb carved PNG up during their 7 on 7 match in Crosby earlier this summer. He's a little thicker and mobility definitely won't be his strong suit but he can spin it, he should be BH's best signal caller since Kaleb Denny. If BH finishes any lower than 3rd in this district after missing the playoffs all together last year I think BH fans have to start asking how long "the process" is really going to take under TW? 3. Nederland - In a district that will be a week to week grind, Ned might just be the best grinder in the district. Without Latulas I really don't see Ned being able to score enough points to be a factor. However, they always seems to have just enough defense to salvage their season and make the most of it. I'm picking them 3rd simply because I think they'll beat PNG in MCM. 4. PNG - I'm picking them 4th because it's RJ, a lineman and nothing else. To call Crosby's 2017 defense trash would be a compliment, them Indians were right there with us though. Crosby got a new DC, brought back 8 starters from a young defense and added a couple of free agents to bolster the depth. I think PNG's plan for fixing their defense is just hoping RJ doesn't get hurt. Kid will probably end his high school career with close to 800 career carries, that's insane. That being said, you always have a chance with #2 back there pulling the trigger. 5. Dayton - To be honest I'm probably just putting Dayton here in the hopes that fans will start coming to their games again. Otherwise, Dayton's good 'ole boy network might finally get tired of watching them get handled by their traditional opponents during this alignment. Love Santee toting the mail but what happened to all those receivers Dayton used to grow on trees? On top of that, the Broncos had an even worse defense than PNG and Crosby and didn't look to have any reinforcement coming. Dayton is the true wildcard of the district, I think they can finish anywhere from 3rd to 7th. 6. Vidor - Four of the five teams mentioned above are just going to line up and throw it around the yard . . . while Vidor is still trying to figure out what a forward pass is, how to complete one and how to cover one. The Pirates have the type offense that can befuddle teams but I think pretty much everybody above(Dayton?) has seen enough of it to mitigate any real problems it might cause. I just think the boys from the Boneyard will run out of gas covering go routes all district long. It's one thing to get hyped up for a bi-district playoff game, it's another to play those games every other week. Matthews just never changes anything, I think BH has shown change isn't necessarily a bad thing? 7. Santa Fe - I hope people realize this isn't your mom's green Indians? If you get caught sleeping at the wheel you will get beat. Howard or Johnson should win the district MVP with the other being the fist team all-district qb. Kruger will be the second team all-district qb though. Santa Fe has good size on the offensive line and rather decent receivers for an average talent 5A squad. They too struggle on defense but they've also been in a district with Manvel and FB Marshall the last couple of years. To put it in perspective, they missed the playoffs because of a 7 point loss(48-41) to Texas City in a game they probably should've won. 8. Baytown Lee - I think Kiki Davis would probably lead the district in rushing this year if he didn't play for Lee. Woosley is an athlete at qb position and likely an FBS caliber talent but he also plays in GCCISD. Before we reach the halfway mark in the season Lee fans will probably be more interested in futbol than football, for whatever reason nobody in Baytown can get it figured out. Sucks for town that's just waiting for someone to get behind but with Baytown's studs starting to transfer to Crosby and La Porte if might get worse before it gets better.

I’m not a big believer in touch football but I tell you what. BH is straight giving it to PNG right now. BH looks a lot more physically impressive than PNG. BH receivers just line up and run right past PNG’s dbs. I know RJ’s number one feature is his legs and he can’t use them in 7 on 7 but if this is all PNG will put on the field for him to throw to it could be a long year if the district has some decent defenses. PNG has one fast kid and no size. I think the best the can hope for is probably a third place finish, maybe fourth.

What do you consider being heavily recruited. I don't even see a 247 page for either. They usually create one for you if you're even on enough FCS team's radar. I do see Orebo is committed to Sam Houston as a power forward for basketball though.

You said multiple times the '17 team was the best in school history and kept putting up some contrived metric to try to prove it. I'm sure there still several of those post on here to be found. Now you're crawfishing saying you just were talking about the offense which is bs, ALL you talked about was where Maxpreps had Crosby ranked vs the '13 team's final ranking. Craig is ranked 348th in the country, what the heck are you talking about a top 150 player in the country? The most dominant back and maybe player to ever put on pads at Crosby was Austin Walter who ran for over 6,000 career yards and was ranked 984th overall in the country. Who needs that? Obviously we didn't because Craig and Austin's best years we have a combined total of 1 playoff win. We got 4 in '14 with two juco backs and Craig only running for 900 yards. We NEVER have D1 backs until somebody offers them and decides thy're D1. We didn't have any D1 receivers until New Mexico offered Patterson either. Kind of a duh statement coming from a teacher. You probably had a front row seat to Haynes and Beck because you couldn't play. No Howard isn't Haynes, as a prospect Howard is better. Haynes was 5-10 pocket passer with average mobility which is why after going in the THSF record books he still signed with North Texas and couldn't really make any headway there. Howard will sign with a G5 school just like Haynes did and will have a higher recruiting grade when he does. Dude, Beck was a 5-7 slot receiver that probably averaged 15 targets per game. You don't got for over 2,200 receiving yards and still go to juco if you're truly on that level. Crosby has had numerous slot receivers under Riordan who could've done what Beck did in that style offense, namely kids like Vernon Allen and Teryl Wiley. Where do you get off talking about a kid not playing within/not within the system? Do you have any experience calling plays under Riordan? That's one of the most asinine statements I've seen you make on here. As far as overall single season statistics season go Howard has the second best behind Haynes' year. If he stays healthy he's going to set all the career passing records at Crosby next year. 247sports individual rankings dropped RJ down to a 3-star prospect even after the season he had, that's all I'm going to say about that. I wish him well. When I speak of team speed I'm talking about the entire team, even the kids that will be rotating in. Funny how you mention Netherly and Craig with those other guys yet the current 4x100 team with Doucette and Clay is the one .4 or .5 off PAM state leading time, not the one with Perry and Pickney. You're over here talking about Woodard who's going probably going to struggle to stay on the field with the addition of Doucette and the emergence of Ayala, who can fly, as long as he holds on to the ball. As always, my points will be proven during the season. People mock you when they run out of ammunition to prove their point, kind of like your posts. After that it slowly moves to disdain for you posting facts and statistics that prove you stance. One thing I know is that your team evaluations are further off than any other Crosby poster on this site.

Doucette is cleared. However, Calvin Hill transferred back to Sterling Monday. Feels like a tough loss for a kid that never suited up.