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Well nobody told me to look to the left and see the printed times for the games Mike. I had to learn that trick myself LOL

A lot of good points made. I agree with both sides of the argument. But you can't really generalize it. It really does depend on the coach and environment of the AAU organization. I coach both AAU and High School ball, so I see the benefits from both sides. Like it or not, AAU ball does help the individual develop his skill set. If you play for a coach that just rolls the ball out and tells you to get after it and go to work, then no, the player will not develop his basketball IQ or concept of playing team basketball. Regardless, he will play tougher competition and will be better for it. It does however drive me crazy to watch coaches just play man to man an entire AAU season. They aren't learning the complete game of basketball. If these kids go to college, they will HAVE to learn multiple defenses and speeds at which to play the game. I can speak for my Defenders team and say that we run 2-3, 1-2-2. 1-3-1, man, half court traps, full court press, multiple inbound plays, press breaks...we mix it up. I teach my kids the value of keeping the other team off balance and playing to the our opponents weakness. Last year my team consisted of the following players through out the year:
Tevin Baker, John Kraemer and Dareiyus Richard from Beaumont Kelly. Jase Miguez and Kevin Howard from Nederland. Michael Saladin and Jamerson Roberts from Hardin Jefferson. Devin Ellis and Geary Senigaur from Central. Josh Hockless from Baytown Lee.
I would consider Baker, Kraemer, Richard, Miguez, Howard, Saladin and  Roberts some of the better players in SE Texas. I coach them, feed them, raise money for them, travel with them...and it's all for them. I want them to learn the game, have fun, build friendships, see new places and stay out of trouble in the summer. Last year when we went to New Orleans, it was the first time for most of the guys to be there. And wrapping up the day with Xbox tournaments in the room seems to be the highlight of their day. These are experiences that they will look back on and remember forever. So try not to paint it with a broad brush

Mamba is one of the good ones  

Nash, yes I do. I think the partnership with the NBA and the various sports channels have allowed many young players to see their peers making good money in communications.

A lot of good points made. I agree with both sides of the argument. But you can't really generalize it. It really does depend on the coach and environment of the AAU organization. I coach both AAU and High School ball, so I see the benefits from both sides. Like it or not, AAU ball does help the individual develop his skill set. If you play for a coach that just rolls the ball out and tells you to get after it and go to work, then no, the player will not develop his basketball IQ or concept of playing team basketball. Regardless, he will play tougher competition and will be better for it. It does however drive me crazy to watch coaches just play man to man an entire AAU season. They aren't learning the complete game of basketball. If these kids go to college, they will HAVE to learn multiple defenses and speeds at which to play the game. I can speak for my Defenders team and say that we run 2-3, 1-2-2. 1-3-1, man, half court traps, full court press, multiple inbound plays, press breaks...we mix it up. I teach my kids the value of keeping the other team off balance and playing to the our opponents weakness. Last year my team consisted of the following players through out the year:
Tevin Baker, John Kraemer and Dareiyus Richard from Beaumont Kelly. Jase Miguez and Kevin Howard from Nederland. Michael Saladin and Jamerson Roberts from Hardin Jefferson. Devin Ellis and Geary Senigaur from Central. Josh Hockless from Baytown Lee.
I would consider Baker, Kraemer, Richard, Miguez, Howard, Saladin and  Roberts some of the better players in SE Texas. I coach them, feed them, raise money for them, travel with them...and it's all for them. I want them to learn the game, have fun, build friendships, see new places and stay out of trouble in the summer. Last year when we went to New Orleans, it was the first time for most of the guys to be there. And wrapping up the day with Xbox tournaments in the room seems to be the highlight of their day. These are experiences that they will look back on and remember forever. So try not to paint it with a broad brush

A lot of good points made. I agree with both sides of the argument. But you can't really generalize it. It really does depend on the coach and environment of the AAU organization. I coach both AAU and High School ball, so I see the benefits from both sides. Like it or not, AAU ball does help the individual develop his skill set. If you play for a coach that just rolls the ball out and tells you to get after it and go to work, then no, the player will not develop his basketball IQ or concept of playing team basketball. Regardless, he will play tougher competition and will be better for it. It does however drive me crazy to watch coaches just play man to man an entire AAU season. They aren't learning the complete game of basketball. If these kids go to college, they will HAVE to learn multiple defenses and speeds at which to play the game. I can speak for my Defenders team and say that we run 2-3, 1-2-2. 1-3-1, man, half court traps, full court press, multiple inbound plays, press breaks...we mix it up. I teach my kids the value of keeping the other team off balance and playing to the our opponents weakness. Last year my team consisted of the following players through out the year:
Tevin Baker, John Kraemer and Dareiyus Richard from Beaumont Kelly. Jase Miguez and Kevin Howard from Nederland. Michael Saladin and Jamerson Roberts from Hardin Jefferson. Devin Ellis and Geary Senigaur from Central. Josh Hockless from Baytown Lee.
I would consider Baker, Kraemer, Richard, Miguez, Howard, Saladin and  Roberts some of the better players in SE Texas. I coach them, feed them, raise money for them, travel with them...and it's all for them. I want them to learn the game, have fun, build friendships, see new places and stay out of trouble in the summer. Last year when we went to New Orleans, it was the first time for most of the guys to be there. And wrapping up the day with Xbox tournaments in the room seems to be the highlight of their day. These are experiences that they will look back on and remember forever. So try not to paint it with a broad brush

A lot of good points made. I agree with both sides of the argument. But you can't really generalize it. It really does depend on the coach and environment of the AAU organization. I coach both AAU and High School ball, so I see the benefits from both sides. Like it or not, AAU ball does help the individual develop his skill set. If you play for a coach that just rolls the ball out and tells you to get after it and go to work, then no, the player will not develop his basketball IQ or concept of playing team basketball. Regardless, he will play tougher competition and will be better for it. It does however drive me crazy to watch coaches just play man to man an entire AAU season. They aren't learning the complete game of basketball. If these kids go to college, they will HAVE to learn multiple defenses and speeds at which to play the game. I can speak for my Defenders team and say that we run 2-3, 1-2-2. 1-3-1, man, half court traps, full court press, multiple inbound plays, press breaks...we mix it up. I teach my kids the value of keeping the other team off balance and playing to the our opponents weakness. Last year my team consisted of the following players through out the year:
Tevin Baker, John Kraemer and Dareiyus Richard from Beaumont Kelly. Jase Miguez and Kevin Howard from Nederland. Michael Saladin and Jamerson Roberts from Hardin Jefferson. Devin Ellis and Geary Senigaur from Central. Josh Hockless from Baytown Lee.
I would consider Baker, Kraemer, Richard, Miguez, Howard, Saladin and  Roberts some of the better players in SE Texas. I coach them, feed them, raise money for them, travel with them...and it's all for them. I want them to learn the game, have fun, build friendships, see new places and stay out of trouble in the summer. Last year when we went to New Orleans, it was the first time for most of the guys to be there. And wrapping up the day with Xbox tournaments in the room seems to be the highlight of their day. These are experiences that they will look back on and remember forever. So try not to paint it with a broad brush

Dove, do you think the NBA is responsible for the development of great high school communications programs?

This is the number one problem with summer basketball too much focus on games and winning and not enough on skill development. The number one problem in HS ball is some coaches not all cant figure out a system to utilize the kids they have. You cant be stuck in a system that isnt condusive to your kids. But hey what do i know im not a real coach jist a summer coach ..We could on and on about what does what. You must play defense in the summer because college coaches dont watch blow outs...lol... They will not sit thru a game like that. Also you can teach defensive princples but defense is a heart thing either you want to play it or you dont ask James Harden. 

Changed with the times as in allowing kids to play the way they want to play. Just because you can score a basketball doesn't make you a basketball player. Any coach who tries to coach a high school team like coaching AAU would not have a job very long. Some of the kids have no respect for the GAME (Effort, teamwork, sacrifice) for the Officials good or bad calls; their opponents players,  coaches or fans. I have been around, played and watched basketball for a long time and today's high school and AAU players would have their milk money taking from them by some of those Lincoln, Hebert, BCP and Silsbee teams albeit in a very aggressive and respectful manner.

Great Post.  And yes you can't generalize it I know there are good coaches out there on the AAU circuit whose soul intention is for the development of the player on both sides of the ball.  Im making my points on what I ve seen and the kids I have worked with that play AAU. 
Need more of you and less of the other.  Thank you for hard work and dedication.

I was offering some friendly advice. PAM basketball have guys who aren't scared to play and will get after you on the field... errr I meant court

A lot of good points made. I agree with both sides of the argument. But you can't really generalize it. It really does depend on the coach and environment of the AAU organization. I coach both AAU and High School ball, so I see the benefits from both sides. Like it or not, AAU ball does help the individual develop his skill set. If you play for a coach that just rolls the ball out and tells you to get after it and go to work, then no, the player will not develop his basketball IQ or concept of playing team basketball. Regardless, he will play tougher competition and will be better for it. It does however drive me crazy to watch coaches just play man to man an entire AAU season. They aren't learning the complete game of basketball. If these kids go to college, they will HAVE to learn multiple defenses and speeds at which to play the game. I can speak for my Defenders team and say that we run 2-3, 1-2-2. 1-3-1, man, half court traps, full court press, multiple inbound plays, press breaks...we mix it up. I teach my kids the value of keeping the other team off balance and playing to the our opponents weakness. Last year my team consisted of the following players through out the year:
Tevin Baker, John Kraemer and Dareiyus Richard from Beaumont Kelly. Jase Miguez and Kevin Howard from Nederland. Michael Saladin and Jamerson Roberts from Hardin Jefferson. Devin Ellis and Geary Senigaur from Central. Josh Hockless from Baytown Lee.
I would consider Baker, Kraemer, Richard, Miguez, Howard, Saladin and  Roberts some of the better players in SE Texas. I coach them, feed them, raise money for them, travel with them...and it's all for them. I want them to learn the game, have fun, build friendships, see new places and stay out of trouble in the summer. Last year when we went to New Orleans, it was the first time for most of the guys to be there. And wrapping up the day with Xbox tournaments in the room seems to be the highlight of their day. These are experiences that they will look back on and remember forever. So try not to paint it with a broad brush

AAU basketball depends on the coach, and what he believes the kids need to improve upon in the summer. If you don't teach defensive habits and proper skill defense, the coach isn't doing his job at maximizing the time he has with the players

No he's not  

I know this...anyone who thinks this was a weak field is sorely mistaken. Sure there were some weaker teams in it, but there are weak teams in every tournament. Take the top 4 from the Bulldog Classic and top 4 from the YMBL and 2 from each tournament would be your semi final games. Maybe 3 from the Bulldog Classic

LOL. Yep. But show me a top area team without AAU players. Central, Silsbee, Ozen, Nederland, HJ, Kelly, Kountze, Big Sandy all have either the majority or all 5 starters playing summer ball on QUALITY AAU teams. Not just "some" AAU team. 

The tounament director made the schedule in a poorly lit gym

and Ozen's fresh legs led them all the way to a tourney final appearance, imagine that. What a concept. 

The tounament director made the schedule in a poorly lit gym

I saw Adams dominate all summer on the AAU team.  So what he's doing now doesn't surprise me one bit.. 

Westbrook is not as bad as people think. I was at the game and i am very impressed with 4A Silsbee beating 6A Westbrook without Devon McCain and Dontre Thomas. They look a little rusty but their defense is so aggressive! Adams looks so comfortable on the court as a freshman. Maybe because he played all summer with these kids on the 17U level. Oh, But AAU basketball does not matter LOL

I am sure he just forgot his question mark! lol

The truth is finally out, Da Dove finally using his inner mental toughness this morning? 
Nash must have a clear path to that password cause this can't be Da Dove typing. 

Much weaker. Especially from my SOPHMORE year when Danuel House was in town. Even two years ago when the Nederland tournament was the weekend after because Nederland wanted to participate.