Well, the thread is about crude oil prices and everything is blamed on Trump. As you said previously, breaking down the costs of what actually goes into shipping and refining, lots of people can’t imagine. I don’t think it’s off-topic to discuss some of the smaller people like me, who are still involved in the cost of getting product to the people. Heck, if I’m told it’s off topic, that’d be ok and I’d start another thread because I think it would be fun to pick your brain. Maybe others would join in with their life experiences. After all, life is nothing more than a collection of memories and I find myself reminiscing more and more. I have some good stories from back then and even during my subcontracting years during the 80s/90s.