CardinalBacker

I’m out of likes today

At the end of the day, it's still just a bunch of old angry white conservative dudes voicing our opinion on what young women (often minorities) are doing. And we're quite passionate about it.

"Vengenance is mine, sayeth the Lord." It seem like I remember reading that somewhere.

But you have to understand the viewpoints of the others. What if the government tried to tell you how many kids you were legally allowed to have, kinda like they do in China? My guess is that you believe that you, not the government (and your neighbors) should make that decision. If you could momentarily remove the idea that "abortion is murder" from your thought process, it simply becomes a matter of the government (and your neighbors) intruding into your life. That's the difference between "us" and "them." They (for the most part) aren't amoral, sinful people... they just disagree with us on a core issue. And if you could be so kind as to point me to a passage in the bible that specifically forbade abortion, it would make your point much more easy to defend. And before you said "thou shalt not kill," remember that you all agreed that particular commandment doesn't apply to the murder of those who have been convicted by a District Court Judge of Capital Murder. Is it such a stretch to believe that it also doesn't apply to the unborn, not yet capable of sustaining life? Let's don't even talk about the abortion pills. I'd love to hear all of y'all's thoughts on Plan B if you even know what it is.

My dad offered to pay for a vasectomy for me after the birth of my son. I'm still not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that.

Taking a life is taking a life in my book. I oppose abortion and capital punishment for the same reason.

I really thought this sounded to dumb to be true. It's true.

The same people complaining about abortions are the same ones complaining about people having kids for the government handouts. Literally the poor (and particularly the minority poor) just can't catch a break from the right.

Those same suburban women who voted Biden because Trump was so appalling are gonna line up and vote Democrat again because the Republicans are focused on imposing religious view on people who aren't necessarily Christian instead of focusing on the real problems at hand... like the economy. Sometimes it's embarrassing how stupid the ultra conservatives can be. They're literally making the election cycle about religious issues when they could kill the Dems by staying focused on the economy.

I beg to differ... if a convicted murder turns his life over to Christ and is born again, he/she is innocent in God's eyes.

Interesting observation. There was a documented drop in violent crime in the 1990s. [Hidden Content] Do any of y'all wonder if the drop in violent crime that came roughly 18 years after Roe v Wade had a lot more to do with a generation of unwanted kids who never became criminals because they were aborted? Those women who don't want to give birth won't change gears and become good moms because we force them to go through with their child birth.

BUT keeping people in poverty guarantees votes for the Dems.... so there's that. The Democrats HATE the idea of the races getting along and living a decent middle-class lifestyle. Nobody would vote for them.

He literally said "Ending a life is ending a life. Dice it up any way you want." Isn't capital punishment ending a life?

Same question for you... do you also oppose capital punishment?

So what about convicted murders on death row who give their hearts to Christ? I take it that you vehemently oppose capital punishment?

I hate that for you. I had similar arguments over my son but luckily I prevailed... raised him myself. Wouldn't trade him for the world.

Yeah, but they also expected there to be a separation of church and state. Nobody wanted a "church of England" over here. The whole thing is you have to find a balance. Christians believe in paying tithes. Should the government seize 10% of your gross income to give to churches? It's ordered in the Bible, after all. Slavery was illegal right up until it wasn't. It took the 13th Amendment, not the Civil War to finally end the practice in the US. It would be really simple to outlaw abortion through the same procedure- A constitutional Amendment banning abortion or allowing it... except neither side has the votes to do so... never have, never will.

It's very distasteful, no doubt. I can't imagine what I'd do if faced with that situation. God bless anybody who has been there. But if I'm willing to agree that abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest, are you willing to agree that abortion on demand is immoral and should be punished by law in any instances other than rape/incest/health of mom? The left uses the "rape/incest/health" argument to justify the democratic party plank that calls for "abortion on demand, regardless of a woman's ability to pay." No offense, but that argument is grasping at specific horrible situations to get a pass for abortion for all. Personally I find abortion to be immoral for me. But it has been the law of the land (at least via Roe vs. Wade) since 1973 and I've accepted that. If the Supreme Court does overturn Roe and allow the States to decide on their own, I'm good with that, too. If you want abortion restricted or allowed, select representatives that will vote based on your wishes. But one side (pro life or pro abortion) is going to take an "L" in every single location. What annoys me is that things are lined up for a big R rout in November based on economics and instead the focus is being switched to abortion instead and other social issues like gay marriage... and the ultra conservatives are too stupid to see that they're doing it to themselves.

I also read where some(?) are calling on legal challenges to same-sex marriages. I'm a little afraid that an outright assault on what most voters consider "rights" is going to be no different than what we see with "woke-ism" that has bogged down the Dems. Long story short, we've got way bigger fish to fry than imposing our religious views on everybody else.

If it turns out to be true, TVC pretty much nailed it a week or two ago. Personally I’m surprised, but I also think this decision could definitely stall the “red wave” that’s been predicted this November. This is an issue that could motivate otherwise apathetic liberal voters to the polls. If they ever figure out who leaked the draft, my guess is that they’ll be a liberal.

It’s out of control local spending, which they in turn blame on “unfunded state mandates” which apparently include new cars/equipment for everybody, buildings purchase to tear down, buses nobody rides, monuments, parks, concert venues, more administrative salaries, turf fields, video score boards, and on and on and on. As far as your taxes at 65, you’ll get a healthy break on your homestead AND the right to defer payment on your homestead if you wish… the balances will pile up and ultimately be due. If you’re paying $15k a year in property taxes, I can only assume that you’re using some of that property to earn income… in that case I don’t really feel sorry about your tax bill. On the other hand, if you’ve invested approximately 3 million dollars into property that ISN’T yielding any income, but still costing you $15k a year in taxes, plus whatever else you spend to maintain it, that’s just a bad business decision on your part and I don’t feel sorry for you this time either. You should have just parked that dough in a mutual fund. No property taxes and no income taxes unless you’re withdrawing funds

And I’m certain they black kids didn’t learn to hate white people from their parents, leaders, teachers, and “pastors” either.

Coming from a place of respect.... If the word doesn't bother, as evidenced by your usage of it, BUT it bothers you when a white person says it- you don't have a problem with the word, you have a problem with white people saying the word... that's textbook racial animus, my man. You have to see it for what it is... the word has been "taken" by the black community as their own for the sole purpose of bludgeoning white people with it. Personally, I don't care... but the fact that one person can be invited to the white house after making millions by slinging that word around in rap tunes (Jay-z), while at the same time another person is losing their job, marketing opportunities, etc because they admit that they did use that word back in the '80's (Paula Deen) tells you that you should re-examine every lie that you've ever been told about bias in the United States. Like I said... I think the word is repugnant and the idea that someone would laughingly joke around with it and claim that it was a term of endearment while it was probably the last hateful word heard by people like Emmitt Till is so stupid that it's hard to come up with comparisons. Do Jews laughingly throw up "Heil Hitlers" at each other as a term of endearment? Of course not.

So you don't have a problem with the word, you just have a problem with white people. It's just that simple.

That’s where you’re mistaken. It’s widely accepted by black people that whites should buy and play their music, and even go to concerts. But the white person is not allowed to sing the n-word. I’m not even kidding. [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] My point remains… if you believe that this group can but that group can’t… you’re a racist. It’s like me dropping F bombs all over the place but being violently angry if I hear a Virgin say it because they have no idea what it means to me. The argument is literally that stupid. Eff bombs are offensive… it doesn’t matter if the speaker has ever had sex. The n-word is either offensive or it’s not. The truth is that black people clearly aren’t bothered by the word… they just hate white people because that’s what they’ve been told to do… in the exact same way that racist white people taught their kids to hate others.