CardinalBacker

But that's your problem. There was never any proof offered up anywhere to support the allegations of "widespread fraud." Nowhere. Not a single place. Here's Donald's plan. "We'll allege fraud by way of affidavits, then point at the affidavits themselves as evidence of fraud." That's not how it works. And no court was EVER going to agree with Trump's plan to "throw out all mail-in ballots." Ever. Anywhere. THERE WAS NO PROOF. With no proof, no objections would ever be sustained at any level. State Court, Federal Court, at the Legislative Branch, Supreme Court.... NOWHERE. It doesn't matter what Rudy and Sidney Powell kept promising (but never delivered). "I heard Justice Roberts yelling that he didn't want riots!!!!" Did you tape it? Heck no. NO PROOF. What's so hard to understand about that?

Wrong... [Hidden Content] If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section 5 of this title to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made, or by such successors or substitutes, in case of a vacancy in the board of electors so ascertained, as have been appointed to fill such vacancy in the mode provided by the laws of the State; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. In short, it gets stopped cold at the first part, because the real electors WERE regularly appointed according to section 5. But IF Pence felt compelled to say both sets of electors were regularly appointed (which they weren't) then it would go to both chambers , and there would have to be a disagreement between the chambers as to which set were to be recognized... and honestly, they were gonna side with the regularly appointed set, not the kangaroo set that were chosen on the sidewalk by Repub hack jobs in total defiance of the popular vote of their own state. Your argument is literally that if Democrat members of the Texas House send a flight of electors to represent Texas INSTEAD of the ones chosen by the Texas voters, then by all means, use those instead. Pence is more of a man than you can even comprehend, unlike your Lord and Savior DJT. Your got got his wig parted, and you need to get over it.

Boy, if those Lyin, Cheatin, Stealin Democrats had known this, VP Al Gore couldnhave thrown out Florida in 2000 so that Al Gore would have been our 43rd President. Just like the framers intended.

So well put... can you point me to a place in the election code where it says that the vp can pick and choose whichever electors he wishes to count? Because it doesn’t exist.

I disagree with the constitutionality aspect. I don’t believe that the founding fathers intended for the current vp to be the only person who solely decides who the next president will be. That’s a perversion of the process.

Gotta love the timing, right?

To clarify, my kid is a weld inspector and they’ve been on a project down there. The customer had crews on site day and nite. The shakeup is that they are going to go to straight call outs with no crews on site. Instead of working 12s (night) 13 on, 1 off, he’d just be on call during the time he’d normally be on shift. But the $145/day perdiem is history. That and the loss of guaranteed shifts has him (and a lot of other guys) pulling out. The customer just decided to cut costs in all directions. He’ll be fine, though. He can work for the same outfit or a competitor down here and it’ll be okay. He’s just trying to stack cash together because he’s registered to start at LIT in the fall. Not process operations, btw. There will still be really good jobs at the plants, just not as many as we’re used to.

He’ll be fine... but thank you.

All kidding aside, my kid just texted me... He's been working down in Port Lavaca (weld inspector) and the customer just cut them way back. Perdiem ends on 2/1/21. He's headed home. Welcome to Biden's America.

As the Final Arbiter for this wager, I have to admit that I have no idea what y'all are betting on.

I don't know who neglected your reading comprehension skills, but I've shamefully admitted that I voted for trump twice. Unfortunately, more people were unwilling to put up with any more of Trump's childish nonsense.

Because he wouldn't try to unconstitutionally overturn the election?

Does this bother you? [Hidden Content]

Solyndra? Yup. I don't remember reading where we had to subsidize the combustion engine industry to get it off of the ground. If it's worth a flip and will make a buck, some enterprising American will be all over it.

Mike Pence? Pray tell. How was Mike Pence mean and nasty?

Here is how you would have answered those two questions. Would Keystone be halted if Trump was the President? NO. Why wasn't Trump re-elected? Because if you don't like trump you're a snowflake.

Of course he got 80 million votes. And i'm guessing that 70 million + of those votes were from people that didn't like Biden... they hated Trump. Why do you suppose Biden won the Democratic primary? Because people are sick of mean and nasty, and Biden was the least mean and nasty of the bunch over there. So why do you suppose Trump got beat by Biden, too? Because Trump was unnecessarily mean and nasty, and that's not what people want. It's so obvious if Trump hasn't banged your head off of your headboard one too many times.

Would Keystone be halted if Trump was the President? NO. Why wasn't Trump re-elected? Because he's a jerk. See? Trump's fault.

I don't have to defend it. It speaks for itself. But it never would have happened if Trump knew how to act. I'm still fairly certain that the first debate probably cost him the election.

Son, that wasn't giggling, I was breathing deeply and typing with one hand.

Hmmmmm.... "We're not going to raise taxes on people making less than $400,000 per year." That took what? One day?

Can anybody point me to an instance where that certain group was in charge and things ended well? I'd really feel better about things if somebody could send me a success story or two. No lie. Drive around PAT.... that's gonna be Beaumont in my lifetime (and I'm in my late 40s now).

It's not just Trump's fault. It's also the fault of his followers (like all of y'all) who were all too willing to overlook his behavior because it benefitted your 401k. I don't just dislike LSU, I really dislike their fans a lot, too. Trump supporters (with their stupid red hats and flags) did a lot to alienate moderate or undecideds NOT to vote for Trump. It's kinda like I don't hate Jeep Wranglers, but I don't want people to think I'm one of those weirdos that's going to put on big tires, lights, stickers, and come up with a stupid name for my jeep. Therefore I won't buy a jeep so I'm not considered a weirdo, too. Decent people don't want to be lumped in with all of y'all. I know that you were required to lower your Trump flag to half mast after the election. When will you be able to throw the thing away?

Imagine Trump as a relief pitcher sent out to the 9th inning of a home game. His team is holding a 2 run lead and Trump strikes out the first two batters. Then he gives up 6 runs to allow the other team to take a 4 run lead. Now the home team is down by 4 in the bottom of the ninth, and Trump's fans are all yelling "BUT HAVE YOU SEEN TRUMP'S FASTBALL?!!!!!!" That's a pretty good analogy of where we are today.

Don't forget to thank Trump for making this all happen. We had both chambers of Congress and the Presidency before ol' Rude and Crude messed it all up.