CardinalBacker

All of that "more debt under Obama than all of the other President's combined" Repubs have gone eerily silent. Obama inherited 10.6 in debt in 2009. We were holding almost 20 trillion in debt by the time he left office in early 2017. Trump's 20 Trillion inherited is standing at 27.8 Trillion just four short years later. If that's what success looks like, we can't afford any more of it.

Double.

When Republicans get away from the abortion issue, they'll start winning more elections. It's just a bunch of mean-spirited old people trying to tell others what to do. I think abortion is immoral for me, but not everyone lives up to my high standards, nor should they have to. I've got a bigger problem with capital punishment than I do with abortion. How many of y'all so-called "pro-lifers" support the execution of humans by the state?

Our business BOOMED under Obama. I'm in collections. We're pretty excited about the next four years.

That tells you how "conservative" those Trump loyalists really are.

Actually, right now you should be crying because the Orange Man didn't know how to act... that's the reason that the Dems are holding all of the cards. Decent, moral people wouldn't excuse Trump's behavior.

He wrote one about current events. Check it out.

Snider wrote my theme song, btw....

True story... Todd Snider (a fine folk singer/songwriter) wrote a little song called "beer run." He'd been playing it for years when he hears the Garth Brooks version on the radio one day. It's disturbingly similar. Like.... direct copycat. THEN he gets a letter from a law firm representing Garth's label demanding that he stop playing "beer run" as it's injurious to Garth. So, being a hippy that's got a little talent but no money, there's not much he can do. He can't fight those corporate lawyer types. So he pens a little ditty called "if tomorrow never comes" that features lines like "if you can steal from me, I can steal from you." It's good stuff. See for yourself.

No, only insane people still believe trump won anything except a one-way ticket out of town.

Bankrupt us? That's the point.

Oh, Lord, not the cages!!!!!!

I can explain it... because the President was from one party and the House of reps was controlled by another. Just like in ‘98 when another President was impeached by a house of reps that was from a different party. And I’ve already seen some of my Republican friends posting “Impeach Biden,” so I’m guessing all we’ll have to do is elect a couple more Rs to the house and they’ll find a crime to fit.

Not so much true. I felt like there was nothing to the first impeachment, but absolutely detested him as President. What people don’t realize is this... while YOU are ready and willing to overlook his behavior, most decent, undecided voters aren’t willing to just ignore repugnant behavior. It doesn’t make them “snowflakes” because they hold themselves and their leaders to certain standards of decency that Trump obviously lacked, and his loyalists didn’t demand. When a lifelong conservative like myself really, REALLY doesn’t want to vote for the Republican candidate, that’s not a bad reflection on me, that’s a bad reflection on the candidate. I’m not alone, either. And for what it’s worth, people didn’t decide to dislike trump over the impeachment... their minds were made up years before that.

There’s nothing there. Nothing that the rest of them aren’t doing. It’s like wanting to investigate Biden for drinking martinis at lunch... when they all do it.

Absolutely. I think it will probably take widespread republican fraud to get the Ds in gear on election integrity.

No, sir... we’ve never had a total mass mailout to every voter on the roll without a request. Never. If people really do feel like the mail in ballots were a source of fraud in 2020 and Dems refuse to tighten the requirements up, you will see fraud becoming more prevalent. Once people feel like our elections can’t be trusted (and that’s what a very large percentage of the country believes today) our democracy will fail. It’s long since time for Democrats to agree to sensible voter ID laws, no illegal immigrants voting, and mail out ballots by permission only.... or honest people will be forced to vote with bullets. It’s a very dangerous game that Dems are playing. You can’t be the party of “everybody has a right to right to vote” while simultaneously encouraging voter fraud.

Lol... don’t run backwards now. The Dems objected to certifying the votes from certain states after each of those three elections. What was gonna happen if their objections were upheld? The election would have been overturned. The only difference is that republicans did it this time. Stop being a “two-faced dork.” Either condemn it when anybody does it or don’t condemn it at all.

Second thought.... elections aren’t safe with mass mail-in balloting. That needs to be addressed or it will be the undoing of our democracy. We need voter ID requirements as well. The possibilities for fraud are too great because of lax controls.

I thought Clinton showed a lack of class in ‘16 by not conceding election night.... it was cut and dried. I wasn’t upset about Gore not conceding until he did (well, the second time he conceded) ... the race in ‘00 was just too close. I knew by 11/5/20 that it was over. Even if he waited until he exhausted his legal challenges (which were pointless), he should have conceded by 12/14 at the latest. To still be hoping on 1/6/21 that he could somehow overturn the election results was pure delusion and lunacy, the likes of which we’ve never seen before. But that makes me a lib traitor, lol.

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I don’t understand it. I’m wrong from time to time, (on a matter of fact, but never on opinion, lol) but you just have to admit that you learned something and move on.

They blamed that on the pandemic. I think it had the effect of bringing in more votes than would typically vote. There was a push to do the same in Texas going forward and it was shot down. I really feel like we’re going to have fraud problems in the future with mass mailouts, if we didn’t have them this time. Like the old saying goes, it’s not what you believe or even what you know.... it’s what you can prove.

No. We had been hearing for weeks to expect Trump to do good on election night and then the races would tighten as the mail in votes were counted. Hardin County, Texas as an example. Trump got something like 88% of the total votes cast. Biden got 12%. But if you look as the mail in ballots cast in Hardin County, 38% went to Biden. I don’t suspect that there was any fraud here.... more Dems voted by mail, and I suspect that was true nationwide. The sheer volume of mail in ballots in states where they sent every voter a ballot to mail made counting all of the ballots on election night impossible. They were going to have to stop counting at some point. To point at the fact that humans can’t work for days on in as proof that fraud happened is a reach. “Texas” didn’t refuse any voting machines. The choice of voting mechanisms is left up to each county to decide for themselves. Which ones did your County use? Most of us have no idea.

Yes. There’s some fraud in every election. But I think it’s normally insignificant. I was really concerned that there would be widespread fraud in this cycle, but I just have not seen evidence of widespread fraud. Neither has anyone else. I think that the wide use of mail in ballots threw everybody’s predictions off, and also caused irregularities in the way and length of time it took to get all of the votes counted. I also think that the possibility for fraud is much, much greater when using mail in ballots, and I disagree that we should be sending a ballot to everyone on the voter rolls. Even though widespread fraud wasn’t proven in this election, the opportunities for such fraud is just too great when the use of mail in ballots is so widespread.