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When Jamarcus listed Breonna's place as his home address as recently as February, he guaranteed that the police would go there if they hadn't already found him. Stop making excuses. Even Jamarcus and the rest of his gang understood the situation for what it was. Kenny got Breonna killed. Their words, not mine. Actually, Jamarcus said "If I'd been there that night, she'd still be alive because I don't shoot at cops." Boom.
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I really appreciate that you took the time to read that. Thanks. I just took from it that BT wasn’t the ex gf from two years ago, and was likely up to her eyeballs in the illegal activities. I knew a guy one time that called his Xanax as “footballs“ in passing and I mentioned to my gf that he calling his meds by their names... that was street slang. I kinda got the same impression when BT was talking about Big Doug being in the “trap.” It indicates that she’s a little more familiar with the drug enterprise than we would have preferred. The police didn’t know where they would find Jamarcus. He’d used BT’s address as his own within the last month... it was entirely possible that he (a dangerous subject, unlike BT) would be at her house. I’m aware that they had already arrested him a few hours earlier, so it’s possible that the police knocked at BT’s door before blasting in because they no longer felt that the danger was imminent. I’ll be honest... I believe the police version of “we announced” about as much as I believe the neighbor’s account of “they didn’t announce.” Kinda like when eyewitness swore that Michael Brown had his hands up when in reality that was just what they’d been told. I really wish we had definitive proof. I’m pretty sure that they were done executing warrants right about that time that the shootout happened. I mostly took from the report that Breonna wasn’t as far removed from the business as we were initially led to believe, and that including her place in the group of warrants was reasonable, not an error. I also saw where Louisville went on ahead and paid the family 12 milly before the investigation even wrapped up. That’s laughable.
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Well, you could start off with the fact that Breonna Taylor rented a car that was used in a murder in 2016. You could also base it on the fact that they were specifically looking for a weapons cache in an abandoned house next to what Breonna called the “trap house.” Which they did find, by the way. So, let’s pretend that the world is perfect and all warrants must be announced. When the bad guys won’t answer, do you expect the police to just leave? Are the criminals allowed to deny admittance to the authorities? Kenneth Walker plainly stated that the police knocked before taking the door down. What more can you ask for. “Y’all wait outside until my lawyer gets here?” Are you going to apologize if the body cams come back and show that they did announce themselves as they claim? No, because you hate the police. My guess is that you feel the Dallas PD officers who blew up the gunman that had killed 6 cops should be imprisoned for denying that piece of human garbage his right to trial.
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The cop that Kenneth Walker almost killed was innocent, too, so..... Why do you keep throwing so much blame at the police? “That one officer fired blindly!” Really? So did the guy that shot the cop. Haven’t heard you mention any negligence or indifference on his part. I honestly think that he should be charged with manslaughter. If I shoot at an intruder and accidentally clip my neighbor’s kid, I’m probably going to find myself indicted. You hold the police to an unattainable standard.
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That’s a tough question. I really don’t a good answer. It’s a fine line... you’re asking the police to decide whether they’d rather break in unannounced and risk getting shot as robbers, or announce and risk getting shot as policemen. And they have to do so with 100% accuracy or face the wrath of the armchair quarterbacks like yourself and risk imprisonment, etc...
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in 2018 there were 14000 murders in the United States. 7,400 of those victims were African Americans. You repeatedly point out that black people mostly kill black people and white people mostly kill white people. So most of those 7,400 black victims were killed by other blacks. Particularly by black men, not black women. Black men make up 6% of the total population, but murdered almost 50% of the people who were killed in the US in 2018. But more black men are in jail because of racist sentencing, lol.
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[Hidden Content] Here... I'm trying to embed the link instead of the post... see if that works any better for you.
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I told you where to look. I posted a link. Amiri King’s fb. 8/25/2020. 10:30pm. There are forty docs released (or leaked) by the LMPD that clearly prove that she was a part of the drug operation. To a reasonable person, anyways. At some point that report will be re-release and you probably won’t read it then, either. It’s way easier or you to explain obvious shortcomings by pointing out perceived slights and imagined offenses.
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[Hidden Content] The above article details the fallout from the release of the article below about the report that I was trying to send to you. [Hidden Content] You can actually see the cover page of the report, but the report is no longer linked. The only place that I've seen that actual police report is on that facebook page. It appears that the report was part of the LMPD investigation and leaked or released to the local paper, and the authorities weren't happy about it. If you really want to see the report, it's posted on Amiri King's fb (i know, I know...) on August 25th at 10:30pm. The complete report is posted as photographs.
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I've looked high and low and can't find the report elsewhere. What I sent you is a link to a FB post that had the report posted as about 40 photos. I'll keep digging.
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I apologize for the source... no need to bother with the commentary or the comments... just read through the 40 or so pages (the photos) and see if there's anything there that you don't already know. Thanks.
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Kenneth Walker was the guy that was at Breonna's apartment and shot the cop during the execution of the search warrant. I'm not sure who Adrien Walker is. Kenneth Walker is the one that initially claimed that Breonna had shot the officer, not himself, further clouding the initial investigation. It wasn't just that. The police had photos of Breonna and Jamarcus arriving at one of his trap houses in her car within two months of the shooting. Jamarcus and at least one other inmate mentioned that "Bre" held Jamarcus' money for him. Jamarcus had also changed his bank statement address to Breonna's address in February. I'm not trying to steer you wrong... There were tons and tons of pages of evidence released by one of the LE groups (I think Sheriff, but I can't remember) and it was pretty incriminating. The gang (Jamarcus and the rest of the crew) were highly critical of Walker, blaming him for getting Breonna killed. Mentioned that he was walking around lockup with her brains staining his shirt. Like i said....an interesting read, for sure.
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One of the things that I took from transcripts i read a couple of days ago was that the guys in jail (not Walker, but the other members of the drug outfit) were wondering why the police were around at that time of the morning, because "that's when the robbers are out." Perhaps Mr. Walker (if he believed that the people pounding on his door were actually cops and not robbers) would have complied with officers' directives. But we all know that yelling "Police!" is one of the actual robbers favorite ploys. More often announcing one's self as an officer before entering would only give the really bad guys a heads-up and time to spring into action against the police. and I think that this is a prime example of why no-knock warrants are needed. It's not just a racial thing, either... There was a white couple killed in Houston a year or two ago under similar circumstances. In that case the warrant was drawn up with two numbers on the address transposed. Unlike Breonna (who was obviously a part of the ongoing criminal operation), these folks were in no way involved or related to the police business at hand, and they were both killed by officers after the victims initially fired upon officers executing a warrant. Imagine this... There are two guys standing on the side of the street one day and one whips out his pistola and starts cranking off rounds at a nearby police officer who returns fire and kills the unarmed man who was just standing there next to the gunman. You'd have that officer fired, tried, and hopefully executed because of his negligence, lack of training, bad marksmanship, etc..... Most people don't see things that way, and honestly, if most people knew half as much about this case as you or I, they'd be completely irritated at how the situation has been misrepresented in the media. You have to dig really deep to find an account that even mentions that Walker shot a cop and Taylor was killed by return fire.
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This past Friday or next Friday? At first I thought you meant that he'd gotten hurt or quit after this past game.
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I've seen a few examples here and there, but no real indication that blacks are punished more severely than white when charged with the same crime and with similar backgrounds. I can point you towards a certain person recently convicted for their first ever felony drug possession charge and receiving 17 years... possession of 14 grams of meth in Tyler County, Texas. That's enough for 28 really, really small doses, according to the DA. The convicted guy was a habitual offender for driving without a license, though. 17 years, my man.... 17 long years for a first felony conviction. [Hidden Content] – A Tyler County jury,have no tolerance for meth.” The problem is this. You say that "This societal view of African Americans as a whole being a criminal people is self fulfilling prophecy created by generations of unequal justice.' Basically saying that because things used to be bad, black people are just living up to our lower expectations. That's complete crap, BTW. It's like your husband saying "well, if you're going to keep accusing me of cheating, then I'm just gonna do it" when in reality, he just wants some strange. If a young man is 19 years old, a high school dropout, a convicted felon, has multiple kids he can't provide for, and neck tattoos..... that's not society's fault- it's poor choices. No matter what color the young man is.
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[Hidden Content] I read through some of the actual docs a week or two ago and it was pretty convincing. I can't find them now. Walker thought that they were being robbed. The police claim that they announced, the occupants say that they didn't. It really doesn't matter because they had a no-knock warrant. I think the question is whether or not no-knock warrants are something that should be eliminated (I disagree), not about whether these officers did anything wrong. I feel for the victim in this case, because I could easily see myself in her situation if the police were trying to bust into my house unannounced. It's a horrible situation, but I don't see the criminality. And I don't care how much training a human has. When somebody starts shooting at you in the dark, you're probably going to fire indiscriminately. It's all so unfortunate. Somebody described such instances as "lawful but awful" and I think the description fits.
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Have you read any of the recent information released recently that clearly (to me) indicated that Ms. Taylor was an ongoing active participant in the drug enterprise, as verified by recorded phone conversations as well as photos of Ms. Taylor with the subject of those warrants at a known drug distribution location as recently as two months before the shooting? This stuff all got dumped recently (and ignored by the media), and it make it obvious (in the words of the drug guy) that she was a key part of the operation, "holding his money?" To me it makes the warrant 100% justified. So you feel that the officer should be punished for returning fire, and criminals should be allowed to empty their weapons at police officers without fear of return fire? I'll try to find a link to that info... it was something like 40 pages.
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Help me out here. I can’t help but notice Breonna Taylor’s name on the back of NFL players’ helmets. What crime(s) if any, did those police officers commit during the execution of the search warrant? I see her case as the most glaring example of misguided angst by BLM and its supporters (peaceful and violent).
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No, that’s not what he said. He’s going to say that we need to look at the factors that force black people to commit those acts.
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Here’s where you and I probably disagree. I want bad mf’ers to be cops.... because they’re protecting me and mine from those other REALLY bad dudes, and honestly, that cute 27 year old White female cop with the cute butt is gonna get destroyed when she comes face to face with a 3-time ex-con Aryan Brotherhood soldier who knows he’s going up for life. Her only chance is to shoot him. Those meathead cops that nobody likes actually save lives. When people throw out stats like “228 blacks killed by cops last year,” they are leaving out the fact that a lot of them had it coming.... like that BLM supporter that killed five cops in Dallas. His life is included in those stats as well.
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I’ve wondered where Shaq is on all of this. I can remember that he was a reserve deputy in LA County or someplace years ago. I’d be curious to hear what he has to say.
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I’ve also wondered what type of “protest” I would find more palatable. I know in the 60s a lot of people were offended by the “black power” fist by Black American athletes during the anthem.... that doesn’t bother me like the kneeling does. I raised my kids (as I was raised) to stand when the anthem is played. It was a big deal... just like bowing your head or at least being quiet when somebody of any faith is praying or standing up when shaking someone’s hand. In my mind, if the same players stood at attention for a reasonable amount of time after the anthem is finished, they’d probably be doing so with tons of support. There has to be plenty of ways to express one’s beliefs without causing the very people that you’re trying to reach to tune you at. I don’t think anybody has watched the kneeling and been like “you know, they’re right... I think I need to look into this police violence issue they’re talking about.” It’s been purely about kneeling, not about discussions about equality.