CardinalBacker

That “someone in the stands” wasn’t a player who just got two unsportmanlikes before attacking the ref who flagged him... so your example is not even close to be relevant. The kid wasn’t even arrested... just escorted from the field, not in handcuffs. Whatever else happened later. Like I said... I would have no problem with the refs disqualifying the whole team and ending the game after the assault. Everybody keeps saying that any punishment that affects the rest of the team is unjust when the kid just caused two penalties that affected the whole team. If the team receives 15 for the first, 15 and a disqualification for the second, why should the team get a pass on the third (criminal) act?

It’s the basic continuance of force. 1. unsportsmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, automatic first down. 2. Second unsportmanlike... whole team loses 15 yards, player is disqualified. 3. Attacks ref.... no penalty according to you guys, because that wouldn’t be fair to the whole team. I still that a disqualification for the whole team would have been justified. To answer your question, I would have no problem if my senior kid’s season was ended because some knucklehead teammate had this meltdown. Everybody here knows that those kids are all accountable to each other... or they’re supposed to be. This kid cost those kids’ season, just like if he’d somehow played while ineligible.

No, but they don’t get to keep the money, either.

It absolutely does. It's a team sport, and when one of us messes up, we all pay the penalty. When those two kids in San Antone wrecked the ref in 2015, both of them were suspended from school for 75 days, lost UIL eligibility. The UIL declined to reinstate one for 2016 (I think the other graduated or quituated) and finally reinstated the other kid for 2017. Their coach even permanently lost his teaching certificate. Granted, that coach may or may not have directed those kids to attack, but in this case where the kid has an obviously well-documented history of violently attacking officials..... You have to make a statement. We might even see stronger penalties from the UIL before this is over with. When you jump offsides, you don't get set back five, your whole team does. This kid cost his team 15, then another 15 and a personal disqualification. THEN he attacked the ref. I wouldn't have had a problem with an entire team disqualification at that point in the game. Make a strong stand and nip this behavior in the bud. It's a shame... the kid is a standout at the 6A level. It's literally on every news source in America today. Maybe he can still walk on at East Mississippi Community College.

Well, it's just the natural progression of things. If he'd jumped offsides, he'd have cost his team five yards. Unnecessary Roughness? Fifteen yards. 2nd unsportsmanlike? An additional 15 and disqualification for that player. THEN attack a ref? Disqualify the team. I AM glad that the school took it upon themselves to self-police before the UIL got around to it. I distinctly remember coach Dubois kicking an All-District player off of our team on '15 that had managed to get himself ejected from 3 games in one season. He just didn't belong on the team... just like this kid apparently didn't, either.

I think his career should be done, just like LeGarette Blount from Oregon.

I honestly thought that one wasn't illegal. It just looked like momentum carried him through the hit.

It's those heavy doses of Vitamin S. I wonder if this will be mentioned in a few years when somebody ends up having to shoot this kid?

Just for the record- Jasper’s 86 team is closer in age to our championship team of ‘66 (20 years) than they are to the 2020 Dawgs (34 years).

Negative, Ghost Rider..... Jasper would have found a way to choke. There's big difference between the BIg Dogs like Newton, WOS, and Bridge City.... all of whom are state champions, and Jasper.

All I know is that Silsbee got screwed again.

You know, I've got an aunt that's my Dad's age that survived polio... barely. Pretty much crippled and mostly uneducated because nobody thought she would live long. Vaccines do work. My mom remembers going down and getting the polio vaccine on sugar cubes and the lines were tremendous, according to her. Everybody wanted to get their kids vaccinated. I didn't grow up in a world inhabited by anti-vaxxers who never experienced a world without vaccines, so I'm probably not as concerned as you are. Vaccines don't cause autism, btw, lol.

I agree with this completely. Anybody that thinks the program over that hasn't been tattooed/stamped by Hooks/Thompson and the community as a whole is kidding themselves. I don't know how you get somebody from outside and not lose something. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Are there any coordinators or coaches in house over there that seem able to make that step up and continue the ways over there?

Just did... that was nasty. Lol.

I'm a big fan of the fake spike, too. I've heard Peyton Manning say that the only guy who knew it was gonna be a fake would be himself and the targeted receiver. Even the line would think the ball was being spiked so that they wouldn't tip their hands.

The play action pass. It's not even a trick play anymore, though, I guess.

[Hidden Content] Great minds think alike, I guess..

I honestly considered taking it early if it would possibly help the greater good. I've got good insurance, my work is flexible, and I'm healthy. If taking it would help to slow the spread and make it safer to be around my parents (who I have only seen a few times since this all started), then I'd probably do it. Now that I've read a little about the rollout plan (first responders, medical staff, nursing home patients, then essential workers, then gen pop, I think that it won't really matter by the time I get the opportunity. I'm not worried so much about whether or not I get sick, but whether taking it will keep me from spreading it.

People excused racism on religious grounds for centuries. Wishing that a coach of any particular color be hired is racist, no matter what excuse you want to hide behind “Culturally” or otherwise. YOU chose to interject race into a discussion about WOS’s eventual next coach. You are not the first, and I doubt you will be the last. What you all have in common is that are no different than those that sought to keep schools segregated, prevent minority hires and otherwise discriminate along racial lines. Because discriminating is exactly what you are doing when you say that you are going to choose a candidate based on race. Whether you’re saying “we won’t be hiring any black coaches around here” or you say “we’re going to hire a black coach next time,” both views are racist.

JasperDawg goes into hiding when the dogs' season ends. And he's probably still got me on "ignore." But we all know he still reads my stuff.

It's good to hear the back story... I just expected that we'd all be talking about how good the O-line is, and it never seemed to materialize... in fact, kind of the opposite according to the posters here.

“Scait” ain’t in my vocabulary, either.

You should see the stuff he sends me in PMs.

Right? They would have missed all of the offseason last year (after spring break) because of the pandemic. Besides that, we all know that success in 8th grade doesn't equate to success at the varsity level.

I'd heard that this year's freshman class was chock full o' big boys.... There was talk that some of them might see some playing time on V because Silsbee was otherwise so short of lineman. Or at least that one of the moms was telling me, lol.