CardinalBacker

No lie.... I don't know the specifics of the situation that you're describing so I can't argue those facts. I know that sometimes cops will give kids a break... no clue if that's what happened at the Taco Bell. On the other hand, we do know that the guy in Atlanta was on parole for a violent crime and a DWI arrest would be a violation of his terms of release. The cops were even more obligated to bring him in than they would be with a citizen with a clean record. I have a good friend who has done a little time and he gets the business anytime that the police deal with him. Once they see that he's been in trouble a few times, he gets hooked up and taken to jail.

I had an uncle that did time in Rosharon for DWIs. He never hit anybody, and I'm pretty sure that he never even got stopped by LEOs. He'd just pass out behind the wheel at a stop sign or train tracks and they'd wake him up and arrest him. As far as letting him walk home, if he stumbled out in traffic (he was falling down drunk), the police would be blamed for his death. The business owner might not want his vehicle (and the subsequent liability for that vehicle) left on their parking lot overnight. There's also the very real chance that IF the gentleman went home, he'd simply have someone else bring him (still drunk) back to get his car. The simple fact is that all of this could have been avoided if a) he hadn't decided to drive drunk and b) he had simply not resisted a textbook arrest. If either of those things had not occurred, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's and unfortunate turn of events and his loss of life is so unnecessary. That doesn't make it the fault of the police, "legally" or otherwise. In my opinion, anyways.

I don't know where you work, but on day 4 I'm just standing there and keeping my mouth shut. It's not my place to second-guess my superior officer that has years of experience AND is in charge of training me. One of the trainees even asked if they should turn Mr. Floyd over twice. Should the bystanders also be charged with murder? Those two trainees are really not much different than bystanders. I just can't see a situation where anybody would expect a rookie officer to overrule a superior that early in his career. Just curious.... what do you mean by the whole system being crooked?

1. No problem with your assessment. We aren't in total agreement, but I can tell that you've done some thinking. 2. All degrees and institutions aren't equal. A Graduate from the Harvard school of Business has a much brighter future available to him/her than I do with my BBA from Lamar University. Big law firms don't fight over graduates from South Texas College of Law.... but you can write your own ticket if you graduated from Baylor Law or UT Law. A lot of it has to do with the screening process. They don't let just anybody into those schools. That's why they fought Affirmative Action quotas at UT. They wanted the best qualified candidates, period. If a young person chooses to avoid the bigger schools in favor of a campus upon which they feel more comfortable, surrounded by people that "look like they do," it's okay. You just shouldn't be upset if your potential upside isn't as great in the long run. I say the same thing about Conservative Christian Preachers' kids that go to schools like Liberty University or Oral Roberts University. At the end of the day, graduation rates are a pretty good indicator of the quality of a institution of higher learning. High schools, too, for that matter.

1. Lol. If you think that the system is racist towards blacks when I just gave you three instances of what appears to be misconduct by black prosecutors in all three current racially-based cases...... you need some reality, my friend. Which I'm pretty sure you're going to get when those cases go to trial. But of course, you won't care about the fact that the actions didn't warrant the charges... You'll burn stuff down and yell "racism." 2. If you choose to attend a college in 2020 which is purely populated by blacks, embrace that "40 acres and a mule" mentality that is considered gospel in those institutions, then find out that nobody wants to hire you, it's not racism. HBCUs have an average 35% graduation rate...some were less than 20%, and the very best (Howard) is marginal at 65% graduation rate. The national average among ALL colleges (including HBCUs) is 60%. And HBCUs are dragging that number down. [Hidden Content],bachelor's%20degree%20within%20six%20years. But you're over here re-arguing Plessy v. Ferguson and trying to convince us that "Separate but Equal" is actually possible. The people that fought for rights for you would be ashamed of what you're arguing.

I don’t have a problem with armed black militias... None whatsoever. That’s what the 2nd Amendment provides for. White guys do it all of the time. Shouldn’t be threatening anybody, though.

The local health departments are counting confirmed tests results, not contacts. I don’t know what’s happening elsewhere.

None of the ones that I know have been hospitalized to this point.

1. I’m not sure how much “systemic racism” had to do with Ahmaud Arbery’s killing. It’s a hotly debated issue and not everyone was happy that they were arrested and not everyone will be happy if they are acquitted. Some people watch that fight and see murder and others see “self defense.” Just because people don’t agree with your opinion on the subject doesn’t equal “racism.” I’m not convinced that the old man’s LEO background didn’t have a lot to do with their lack of arrest. Some people would also point out that the arrest wasn’t made until the fourth DA (first black one, btw) was appointed. 2. HBCUs.... I think we both agree that their origination was needed because of blatant racism in regards to college admissions, particularly in the South. HOWEVER, if the institution requires lower (if any) admissions standards, has educators that are hired for their skin color instead of their abilities, has historically bad graduation rates, and creates graduates that are indoctrinated with ideas that make them a bad fit for just about any business.... it becomes a second class institution that exists in a state of segregation simply because it’s “ours”... you still blame racism. Literally .... those are black peoples’ institutions. They did exactly what they wanted with them. The fact that they are now a joke isn’t the fault of the people who ran them into the ground, it’s Whitey. Is it racism when the black DA in Atlanta charges police officers with a deadly conduct charge for using a taser on black protestors, then charges police officers with murder two weeks later, saying that the police were not in danger when being shot with tasers? Is it racism when a devoted follower of Louis Farrakhan who is also the Attorney General of Minnesota charges every cop on the scene with murder (or accessory to murder) when two of them are on their fourth day on the job. Trainees? I’m not surprised. That’s what a racist would do. And your response would be something about a rabbit having a gun. So don’t bother.

It’s all good, man. You exasperate me, but I don’t have any ill will towards you. I hate that you’re carrying that load around with you. I wish I could convince you that things aren’t as bad as you think that they are. That’s all.

There’s so much garbage info floating around these days from all angles. I know that there’s been a lot more testing lately, and I’m hearing of more and more people that are infected. I can think of five that I know right now and several awaiting results. That wasn’t the case a month ago.

Things are bad and I’m afraid they’re about to get worse. The only light that I can see is if the mortality rate stays relatively low. We’ve seen a crush of new infections, but there hasn’t been an increase in deaths.... yet. Too many people pretending that things are all back to normal a little too early. I know of two kids getting tested mid-week last week... they’d been sharing a vape pen over the weekend with somebody who came down with it on Monday. I also have some extended family that all loaded up and went on vacay to Tennessee. Families from Jasper, Cypress, and Lum all went and stayed together. Some of them are awaiting test results right now. You just can’t do that right now. I was at a SMALL weddin(<40 people) last week and people kept encouraging me to “go meet all of his family.” Nope. Maybe when this plays out. I don’t even want to be around the people that I know right now.

And that’s the attitude that has kept the black community mostly on the plantation for 150+ years after they were free to go. They just don’t force you to work anymore. And stop crying about being lumped in with everybody when you keep responding as “we.”

First Miss Black America Pageant was held in 1968. The first African-American contestant in the real “Miss America Pageant” was in 1971. Heck, the first AA winner of the Miss America Pageant was in 1983. So there was a necessity for a segregated black pageant up until 1971. That’s 49 years ago. Why is it still happening, Pamfam? Is it that long, celebrated 3 year time when the Black Miss America Pageant existed and blacks couldn’t participate in the original one? I doubt it, because the only thing anybody remembers about the black pageant is that one time when Mike Tyson raped that one contestant. And if you go back and look, most of the HBCUs were founded by white philanthropists. [Hidden Content] “But after the Civil War, African American education blossomed. Black ministers and white philanthropists established schools all across the South to educate freed slaves. These schools, more than 100 of which are still open today, became known as historically black colleges and universities, or HBCUs.” That’s right. You need to thank Whitey for that, too. It needed to happen because access to higher education was for all intents and purposes banned in the segregationist South. Except today blacks want to keep those proud segregationist ways alive via “black only” institutions.

No, but in 2020 a man could, lol.

Just curious... why do you think that all of those organizations are pretty much crap? An HBCU degree is typically ranked just under one from University of Phoenix or Southern New Hampshire University online come hiring time. Nobody watches BET, and the NAACP is a corrupt, anti-Semitic shell of what it used to be. If you and people like you got over racism, the pimps like Al Sharpton, Shaun King, and Quannel X would have to go find a new hustle, AND the Democrat party wouldn’t own your vote anymore.

You do realize that England still had slaves at that time, right? Just like the Emancipation Proclamation that only offered freedom to Southern slaves but fell short of freeing those in the North, the English offered freedom to US slaves while keeping their own in shackles. The English forbid the slave trade in 1807 and abolished slave ownership in 1833... 28 years or so before our Civil War broke out. “Way before” is a relative term I guess. Five seconds is an eternity when your hair is on fire.

I’d like to understand. What is it about slavery that makes people that didn’t experience it unable to forgive?

Leviticus Chapter 25 44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. That is in the Old Testament.... as I understand it, God speaking to Moses about slavery. Jesus even spoke on how to treat your slaves. I guess all of them are burning in hell, too, huh? I’m so glad that as a society we all pretty much condemn slavery in our modern time. It’s too bad that some of us would rather dwell on the past. That issue (slavery) was settled here in the US about 100 years before you were born. You see, the way that works is that when the issue is settled, it’s settled. We aren’t still punishing the Germans for what they did 75 years ago. It’s done. The Jews aren’t out raising hell that the Germans all somehow owe modern Jews compensation for the Holocaust. But people like you can’t let it go. It’s insane.

I understand that you’re upset... but you realize that women weren’t even allowed to vote either, right? Here’s the thing... we can ALL agree that slavery is morally wrong. But that wasn’t the case 400 years ago. As a group all of our ancestors came kicking and screaming into what we have today. From legalized slavery to a civil war to end it, then all of the way up through the right to vote and full civil rights in 1964. Kids should learn about the struggle and the process that got us to where we are today. The problem that I see it is that now we have a group of people (and I think you’re a member) who dismiss all that has been fought for and accomplished because they’d rather be offended by the way things were hundreds of years ago. I don’t know.... maybe you feel that if you cry big enough tears and wail loudly enough, you’ll get some money.... that’s about the only logical reason for your misplaced anger. Your ancestors fought to be recognized as part of the “men” in that document that you crap on. That’s just ungrateful.

If you go back and study, some of the founding fathers were opposed to slavery... it’s an issue that they conceded on so that the colonies could unite and break free from England. The issue remained a polarizing one that led up to the Civil War. Did you know that slavery was still legal in the England at the time of the American Revolution? It was partially outlawed in 1807 and formally abolished by the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833? America is no different than any other modern nation. There’s a history of slavery everywhere. In 2020, you’re mad that America was doing something in 1776 that pretty much every other country in the world was doing at the same freaking time.

This.

Lol. Things didn’t start to grow here until after slavery was abolished. It’s proven that slavery as an institution is an archaic and inefficient means of production. The only places that still still have slavery in 2020 are the most backwards third-world countries. To be quite honest, slavery has as much to do with what we’ve accomplished as steam trains, oxen, and mules. “This iPhone X I’m holding is the result of slavery that existed 155 years ago.” Now, if you’d like to thank the slave owners for the animal husbandry programs that yielded the genetics that have led to the success of black athletes, I’m okay with that. In fact, I believe that all black athletes should be taxed and those taxes should be paid as reparations to the descendants of lawful American slaveowners whose slaves were stripped from them through no fault of their own. THAT, my friends, is equally as ignorant as any argument made by BLM.

You know, I agree with you, but at the same time I disagree. About the only problem that I have with PamFam is that his pride won’t allow him to admit that there’s a violence problem in the black community.... which is pretty typical of the black community and BLM. Until the black community acknowledges that black violence is out of control, they’ll never be able to fix it. The man can cry about the Star Spangled Banner not being “their” anthem and otherwise complain about getting historically screwed by the “systemic” and “institutional” (both code words for “we can’t prove it”) racism, and I’m certain that if we’d just allow them, most blacks would buy one-way tickets out of here. EXCEPT NOBODY EVER DOES BECAUSE IN SPITE OF THE NONSTOP COMPLAINING, NO BLACK PERSON EVER LEAVES BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEST NATION ON THE PLANET IN WHICH TO BE BLACK. Fact.

Yeah...this morning I slapped a 4 year old Japanese American girl for what they did to us at Pearl Harbor. That’s about how much sense you make.