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I was more or less just talking to the guy who said that we haven't (and won't ever) beat Newton. I might have taken a few poetic liberties in my description, lol.

And in 2015? EDIT: nvm..... you were still in middle school.

Well.... You’re on a Newton thread talking about Jasper and BC’s history. I guess that means you can be diverted by a really weak narrative. Let’s face facts.... BC has a ring and Jasper doesn’t. That’s all I have to say about dat.

I agree. Jasper/Silsbee WOULD be a much better rivalry but you guys are too scared to face off. Ain’t that right? Must not wanna get that tail whipped during AND after the game anymore. Lol.

Yes, sir. I guess that got a little off-track. What do you think, WOS? Does Newton go 16-0 this year?

It’s the kinder, gentler Cardinalbacker. Would you prefer Uncle-Daddy?

I’ve heard the same, honestly regarding the new HC. It IS worth mentioning that the OC that came in for 17 and 18 (coincidentally the exact time Newton began this streak) just left to take the HC job in Anahuac. So “yes,” the same general coaching philosophy that’s been there for years (good and not-so-good) is still there. There’s a question as to how much of an effect Neece had in getting the “o” as dominant as it has been only while he was there. My opinion is that the recent success probably has more to do with a great group of athletic talent that has moved on. Newton was really blessed with a group of talented skill players over the last few seasons. Pretending that the loss of that much talent won’t affect the team’s success is comical.

Yes.... I played two games of Madden this morning and I’m gonna try to squeeze in 18 holes at Colorado Canyon after it cools off this evening. Why do you ask, BostonDAWG?

Yawns.

What was that score again? I thought you said “can’t and won’t ever beat Newton?” I’m glad to have stepped up and done my part to educate you, BostonDAWG. And your apology is accepted.

You’re delirious, my friend. The point (which is an actual fact) is that BC and OF both molly-whopped “lil’ ol’ Newton” in 2014. BC repeated that again 2015. While Newton Fan (and his Uncle-Daddy from Jasper) might forget those inconvenient FACTS, the rest of us haven’t. Newton is a great 3AD2 team. No disputing that. In Newton’s great years, they can even beat good, bigger teams like Silsbee. On normal years Newton gets rolled up by weaker, bigger teams like BC and OF. All anybody is saying is that we don’t expect this to be a great team in ‘19. They’ll play competitive against bigger schools, roll through district undefeated, and then get bounced 3-4 years in. Just like 2016. Let me draw you a scenario. It’s summer in New England. Tom Brady, Gronk, and the starting running back just retired. McDaniel (or whoever the OC is these days) takes a HC job in San Diego. Both starting wideouts were lost in free agency, AND Bill Belicek dropped dead. You would be that person with a Bah-ston accent honking about how nobody can hang with the Patriots while the rest of the free world Is like “put the meth pipe DOWN, BostonDawg!”

Jeez, son! Are you gonna be a Senior this year? Newton needed a last second interception in the red zone to avoid being beat by a bunch of slow white kids from Canadian last December. Since then Newton has: 1. Lost 3-5 D1 caliber players to graduation. 2. Lost who knows how many good role players to graduation. 3. Offensive coordinator saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship. 4. The head coach joined the Angel Choir. (I decided against "traded his wheels for wings"). But we're all supposed to believe that Newton can't be stopped. Like I said.. this is gonna be one of those years where Newton get beat by average larger teams. I'll be surprised if you're still posting here after week 4. Book it.

I'm thinking Splendora, Huffman, and Lumberton should finish 1-3 in some order. It would have LCM, BC, and Livingston fighting for that fourth playoff spot in that order. That's on paper, anyways.

Deweyville: "What? Speed? We're in!"

Sure... something like that. There would be some very unhappy WOS fans, to say the least. The sad thing is that they won't have voice in the matter when it happens. They only formed in '77 and have been a complete failure by every measurable criteria.... academics, enrollment, etc.....it's not at all hard to imagine them fading into memory. Their priorities are obviously all out-of-whack and the need oversight... that's beyond dispute.

Or like Newton over Canadian in 2018.

I think it's hilarious that the left wants Trump strung up for what he tweeted about that group ("go home" or whatever) over the weekend. Isn't that the same skirt that was hollering to "impeach that m-fer" after she was elected? [Hidden Content] Yup.... same person. No apology, stood by her words, with full support of the dem party.

So young....

I’m trying to find one close to home.... I’m pretty sure I’ve made fun of Burkeville, too.

That’s true. And I’m in a little bit of a dilemma, too. I haven’t had a kid on the BC team in a couple of years and my last marching band member finished up year before last. I think I only watched BC get their teeth kicked in three times last year. I moved out of the district and find myself living in HJISD, with a Kountze address, and no particular team to follow this fall. Kountze is a no-go, I think the world of Coach Dubois, but HJ is in a tough, tough district and I haven’t heard much out of Hawk fans this off-season. That leaves me with Lumberton (who should be in the DC hunt AND running the Slot T) and Silsbee as potential bandwagons I could hop on. Silsbee being most likely to be playing Thanksgiving weekend. I’m worried that I just can’t get over how much I can’t stand the Tigers. Maybe we should start a recruiting period to see where I should take my talents this fall. Or at least do a poll, lol.

I guess I was more confused about eligibility in general and not really germane to this post. I thought you’d only have 2 years of eligibility at a juco... if somebody had started two years at any school, they wouldn’t have any remaining eligibility at the juco level. Am I mistaken? More on point, I was trying to think of anybody from SETX who’d gone on to success (a “name” qb) at a big, Power 5 type school. I’d thought of Dustin Long going to A&M, but his success was more at Sam. I can’t remember watching anybody from SETX under center during a premier Saturday game in my lifetime. Maybe Roschon changes that. Not knocking the kids who were mentioned at ETBU or whatever, I was just trying to think of anybody that would dispel the “SETX doesn’t develop QBs” assertion.

Isn’t Kilgore a junior college? I’m confused.

Yeah, me, too. The execution got worse, not better, as time marched on. The cards might be in a better place with the HC/OC installing a scheme that they're more familiar with. DeShazo was the DC and then OC (I might have that backwards) in consecutive years before he became the HC/AD. Kinda like when you guys had OCs and DCs swapping roles, lol. It didn't seem to lead to a lot of success. We were really fortunate in '15 when Dubois came that his son was a senior qb with years in that system. By 16 it was clicking even with a new qb. 17 was a really bad year due to injury, but should have been a rebuilding year, anyways. We had tons and tons of kids turn out that year, but after that debacle of a season we'd lost a lot of kids from the program. There were barely 2 dozen kids suited out for the later varsity games last season ('18), if my memory is correct. We played STJFL ball with Sophomore QB Oceguera (his dad was the coach) and we didn't have a ton of success way back then. Good athlete, it'll be interesting to see how much he's progressed and how well the squad adapts to the new scheme. The Slot T works well with semi-skilled athletes, but it seems like you just end up with too many spots for too few semi-skilled guys. You need three good RBs and a running qb.... It falls apart if you don't have real threats at one or two of those positions. It also hurts because you end up with a guy or two playing RB when you kinda sorta need them at linebacker or in your secondary. That smash-mouth kind of play tends to lead towards banged-up RBs, and when your FB is also the starting middle LB, you've REALLY got a problem if he goes down. If BC doesn't turn out more kids this season, I don't expect any better results.

It wasn't lost on me that we don't have a qb coach listed, lol.

I went back and checked... You are correct. I was just saying that this looks like one of those years where Newton plays those other non-district teams tough, but probably comes up short. It doesn't mean that you guys won't still be playing between Thanksgiving and Christmas, but just that "The Streak" will be ended early on this season in my opinion. That was a rough start that year for the eagles, lol.