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We're not that far apart in our opinions. I'll use one more stupid scenario, then I'm done. Imagine, just for the sake of argument, that steroids were allowed for use in football, but only for white players. Black players would be punished for using the stuff. Suddenly, you would have white players (who use steroids themselves) turning in black players for using the stuff. White fans celebrating every time that a black athlete got suspended for "cheating." A normal person would be on the sidelines going, "ummmmm, nobody should be using steroids, but I keep seeing these black athletes getting smacked for doing the same exact same that the white ones do, and it doesn't make any sense to me." I disagree with the assumption that things will keep happening whether we like it or not. When you look at how far we've come over my lifetime, it's pretty remarkable how much so many people have cleaned up their acts. I was at Lamar in the mid-nineties when the OJ trial was going on. They were on TV asking that racist cop if he'd ever used the "n-word" and I was like "N- word? I know an "a-word," a couple of "b-words", a "c-word"..... but I can't remember an "n-word." When I finally realized what they were alluding to, I was like "seriously? It's the "n-word" now?" I grew up in East Texas... I remember George Jefferson, SNL, and Archie Bunker all using it. But suddenly it's "the n-word?" I mean, to us it wasn't a nice thing to call somebody... worse than dummy but not as bad as a curse word. Luckily times change, and we all move forward. Most of us do, anyways. It's not a word that I use anymore. It's like wearing work boots in the house.... It just doesn't feel right. But I also notice it when ANYBODY says it.... and it bugs me every time. It's just a strange time that we're living in. I was watching Joe Rogan's podcast last week and they were discussing how a conservative guy got his Youtube channel de-monetized for calling somebody a queer. The guy the he was criticizing was homosexual, no doubt about that. This guy shouldn't have been calling anybody out for their sexual orientation, and I get that. But when you describe yourself as LGBTQ, and the Q stands for queer.... how mad can you really be? I just don't get it.

Do you feel the same way about every black ref that has ever uttered that word? Or any athlete of any color that has ever uttered it should be forbidden to play in the future? The word is either bad or it's not. You can't judge a word's offensiveness by the color of the speaker's skin. I don't need to hear about a soft "a" or a hard "er." If you're from down South, "cheatin' on your wife" means the exact same thing as "cheating on your wife." It doesn't matter what your enunciation is. The difference is this. Nobody is getting in trouble for cursing around the house or with their friends. There are real consequences for people who drop the n-word in ANY circumstances. If they're not black, of course. Paula Deen lost a ton of her opportunities a few years ago for admitting that she'd used the word back in the 1980s. Imagine a situation where only black people were punished for saying the f-word. Everybody says it, but black people would instantly lose their jobs, their, careers, and their reputations.... because they said a word that EVERYBODY else says without punishment? And trust me... Every white person out there has said it. I'd appreciate a response from any white person posting who can HONESTLY say that they've never used that word in some context. So, when I'm over here reading this story and seeing how this guy is getting hammered for a using a word that I've used personally, and so many of my black friends continue to use to this day.... It just kinda rubs me the wrong way. It doesn't seem right. I'm NOT fighting for the right to use that word. I think it's offensive and shouldn't be used. I just think the hysteria that breaks out when SOME people use it would be funny if people weren't really getting hurt as a part of the process.

You can say anything in a petition... doesn't make it a fact. But the charges of financial impropriety, IF TRUE (and they probably are), then the plaintiff would appear to be in the right. I have a bigger problem with the charges of racism. Seriously.... when's the last time a "person of color" was removed from their duties when "racism" wasn't charged? Fire a white dude for being an all-around waste of time and money and it's over. If you fire a black dude you'll face claims of racism... whether the guy was a waste of time and money or not. Do you know that people were actually trying to sue Dupont when they closed the Beaumont works on grounds that the terminations were racially motivated? EVERYBODY lost their jobs, but one "protected class" lined up to beat that dead horse. You'd have to be be blind to think that those things aren't considered at hiring time. I'll go one further... It's 2019, and nobody should be using the N-word. NOBODY. If you have a problem with a 59 year old white guy using that word, but no problem being called that (or calling people that yourself) by your friends.... let's be honest. You don't have problem with the word, you have a problem with white people. All that being said, it sounds like the TASO is running wild. Or at least as wild as you can with a $100k a year in dues. I hope the plaintiff prevails if his pleadings are true.

Noticed Silsbee ranked ahead of WOS for the first time ever, I'm pretty sure... (Sips tea and waits for fireworks).

Yup. That’s for real.

It's all relative.... If you gain some housing out on 1442 but lose some older housing due to homes NOT rebuilt after flooding in 08 and 17, you can stay pretty static. It also makes difference if you have more homes but fewer people living in each of those homes. The old "Mom, Dad, and three or more kids" scenario in each home doesn't really play out so much anymore. A lot of Bridge City (especially the older areas) is made up of retirement aged population where the kids have moved on, and now it's just the Mom and Dad by themselves. The homes in Bridgefield tend to be pretty spread out with 1+ acre lots. I'd be amazed if the entire development out there on 1442 totaled 700 acres, and those places aren't very densely populated. If you look at Westwood in Lumberton where the houses are jammed on top of each other, you'd see a lot larger population growth. It really comes down to how closely the new homes are placed, etc... One other point that's lost on a lot of people is that the classifications continue to grow. Silsbee didn't drop down a classification because of a decrease, but rather the lower line moved up again, if my memory is correct.... but that's not saying anything.

Is this true or speculation? I haven’t seen any proposed actual location.

Thanks!

1. OF - return of the Bayou Bowl... too bad they’re skeered.

Don't nobody wanna play the whitest school in Texas? [Hidden Content] Annnnnnnnnd...... go!

Don't just assume that the project is in Lumberton ISD. Bear Creek and I think Rock Ridge are both out that way and at least one of them is in HJISD. You don't have to go very far past the city park to get into Hardin-Jefferson's territory. Does anybody know for sure?

I don't remember Briles ordering anybody to go rape anybody else. I mean, I get that you've run out of reasonable arguments, but this one is a stretch. Manson died in prison. NOBODY is arguing that Briles even committed a crime. Nobody had more to gain from the Baylor fiasco than UT, so I get where you're coming from. You guys were able to climb back to the top of.... wait, had the opportunity to climb back out of the Big 12 cellar. Kind of a shame that you didn't.

The only one I remembered was Shawn Oakman and he was found not guilty earlier this Spring. He was predicted to be taken by the third round of the NFL draft but was never selected because of his (at that time) pending legal problems. I cant say if he’s a good dude or not, and the courts found him not guilty of those charges.... he still paid a pretty heavy price, regardless. #metoo #believeher #womenneverlie #heprobablydeserveditanyway

No, that's absolutely not the right thing to do. I would go as far as saying if somebody has been indicted by a grand jury, then you could justify considering a suspension. I don't know where you work. How would you feel if tomorrow morning you were fired,escorted from the premises, and forbidden to ever work in your current field because somebody made an false accusation about you? My guess is that you would have an instant change of your opinion regarding due process. In fact, my guess is that IF some unnamed girl accused your team's RB or QB of some sort of sexual assault the week of the first round of the playoffs, you'd suddenly be able to see the inherent unfairness of your opinion. Do you know how many people were accused of rape? 31. Do you know how many were convicted? 2. How many of those accusations were made by people who didn't get a call back after bedding a cute athlete of some sort? If you believe rape happens, then you also have to believe my scenario happens as well. So you guys are cool with ruining the lives of 29 people, when the evidence presented didn't even merit a conviction? Nice. Very nice. [Hidden Content]

That's the story. Surratt got sued by the accuser as well, if I recall correctly. They'll never be able to get a judgment against him, IMO, though, because we used to have a thing in this country called "due process...." You see, a person, even a big scary dark-skinned athlete, is still innocent until proven guilty. So while all of the #metoo think we should all #believeher just because an allegation is leveled.... they are fundamentally wrong. You can't deprive a person of their rights just because an allegation is leveled, unless you, as a coach, would like to be sued for that reason. Let's pretend to be coaches. Girl makes accusation against player. Coach can either wait until the actual investigating authorities come to a conclusion, as would be sensible, but then they face lawsuits from the accusers. On the other hand, they can crush a kid's career because of the unproven allegations and face lawsuits from players who have had THEIR rights trampled. I mean, either way you're getting sued, but you're going to lose your job if your team doesn't perform. So which is it?

[Hidden Content] It's kinda crazy.... I don't see where the actual investigators blamed Briles... In fact, most of the report was about the university as a whole, not the football program. So.... I guess you all agree that the head coach of a certain local high school should be banished forever from the coaching profession back in 2008? Anybody that follows me knows that I can't stand that school, but I'll be the first person to say that the head coach had no responsibility in what did or didn't happen before football players started jumping out of bedroom windows. I'll even go further and say that IF somebody came to me, as a coach, and reported thirdhand that such a thing had happened, I still don't think I'm dialing 911. Which is pretty much what Briles is accused of doing.

Okay... I'll bite. What EXACTLY did Briles do? The evidence clearly indicates that young women (and since it's Baylor we're talking about, probably some young men, too) were sexually abused. Come to find out, some of them were attacked by football players. Therefore, the man who draws up the plays for the team should never work again? Jesus. Help me understand his culpability, please. Let's pretend that I manage a McDonalds. Three of the kids that work back there cooking for me decide to go and rob a liquor store. Suddenly I'm supposed to lose my store and never hold down another job? That's kinda sorta what people want from Briles.

To further illustrate, I'd say it like this.... Mark McGuire was hammered for being a cheater in the mid-late nineties. Him and Sammy were the poster children for PED abuse. History has kinda shown that that might have been a little over top to label him as such, because we now see that it was happening pretty much everywhere. Sexual abuse is huge problem at college campuses nationwide.... and it's not just the athletes that are guilty of doing those type of things. There are plenty of "bros" in Polo Shirts, khaki shorts, and golf visors doing the same things Thursday-Saturday at any university out there. Somehow Baylor gets tagged as an academy for rapists.

Of course I'm not saying it's okay... but a person would be extremely naive to believe that this type of thing happened only at Baylor. It happens everywhere, and frequently. Baylor just got tagged as ground zero.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the basketball team at Baylor killing one another long before Briles ever got to Baylor? You can hear stories about the same stuff happening at any university. The difference is that it's a lot easier to tee off on a private institution like Baylor (especially one with deep, deep pockets) than it is to take on one like say, Lamar or any other state school.

PAISD spends more per student than any other ISD in Texas. That's a lot of "care" that isn't yielding results that anybody would brag about. High taxes and new construction don't show care... Having kids with with your wife does. Not being on welfare does, too. Making sure to get your affairs in order before starting a family shows a ton of "care." Staying out of prison and taking care of your responsibilities shows a LOT of care. Holding down a job that provides health insurance for your kid(s) is a great sign of affection. Voting for a tax increase that will covered by your neighbors and industry is a really, really lazy way to show how much a person cares about their kids. My thing is this.... People have different opinions. The fact is that your opinion over what I should do with my money is not needed. That's the whole problem with tax-and-spenders.... they always believe that they can change the world and make it a better place.... all they need is everybody else's money.

Some people just like to coach kids... good for him.

Yeah.... That’s a coup.

I don’t want to sound all negative, but we’re screwed (at least in my way of thinking) regardless. Recent studies show that 4 out of 10 Americans look favorably upon socialism. Those aren’t the old ones.... it’s just a mathematical certainty that as the older voters die,, they’ll be replaced by more voters who were raised to receive a trophy just for showing up. They’ll vote for any and every big tax project (See Nederland bond issue) with no regard for cost or consequences. Just that the reward is somehow “deserved.” Whether it’s a poor family that believe they deserve food, shelter, cash, and a phone... college graduates that believe their college debts should be forgiven.... or retirees who can’t correlate the amounts of their SS/Medicare contributions to the actual cash outlays in today’s dollars... or immigrants coming here to enroll in our benefits programs. We’re in trouble, and the electoral college isn’t going to matter much longer.