CardinalBacker

We’d have a bigger collection if we played 3A D2 Ball.

“Coach Jones, and I have to ask you to be frank here today.... have you ever forced a child to perform squat thrusts or bear crawls? This district WILL NOT have our children subjected to those archaic forms of degradation and punishment.”

Sneak peek. [Hidden Content]

Welp..... can’t argue wit dat.

We got screwed again! Sincerely, Silsbee Fan

What radius around SETX do I have to blindly support? Do I also have to blindly support local schools? If that’s the case, how can you support TB after he left the great state of Texas to go play at Alabama? You sound like one of those “everybody deserves a trophy” kinda guys. At the end of the day, I’m free to cheer for whoever I want, and perfectly within my rights to root against whoever I want.... regardless of my proximity to that person’s place of rearing. Get over yourself.

Boo. Lol. I hope he does really well so I can tune in and root against him on Sundays. The only thing that MIGHT change my mind is if he became a Cowboy.... that’s just different.

So help me understand why you would be permitted to pay “coffee and doughnut” money towards these frivolous projects and another man would have to spend thousands of his dollars on the same project. Like I said, scratch a check to the school any time you want.. they’ll gladly accept it and use it however you want. I’ll use PAT as an example of your way of thinking. They have the highest per-student spending of any district in Texas. You have a voting block of renters and low- alike homeowners dictating what the non-voting industrial and commercial interests should have to pay... “ for all the children.” PAISD could literally pass a bond to create a new amusement park. And we all have to wonder how that’s worked out for the kids over there? I mean, we know how the bond issue in Beaumont worked out for Walker Electric, but how about the kids who used to go to Central? I mean, a natatorium and world class football facility are nice, but now their having to go back to the taxpayers for more “coffee and doughnuts.” BC voted down a bond issue year before last that would have provided upgrades to the athletic facilities, band hall, and six new classrooms. The voters (typically owners of nicer homes) said “no” primarily because we can see the need for a new school in the not-too-distant future and we haven’t finished paying for the new schools yet. The crazy thing is that the school found a way to construct a new high school band hall regardless of a bond issue. I can tell you’re not a dummy. Work hard, make good decisions, and you can’t help but stack some money together over time. You’ll end up with property in a few school districts and your tune will change.

That’s not a very good argument. First off, the “average homeowner” typically doesn’t pay the majority of these taxes. The average homeowner owns a moderate house that enjoys a homeowner’s exemption. The guy with the $350K+ house will be paying a lot more than “coffee and doughnut” money. Even harder hit is the guy with multiple properties or a business owner. So, while YOU might be giving up a dozen donuts a month, there are very real consequences for people who have made better financial decisions and consequently have a little more “skin in the game.” The schools always stand ready to accept any donations that you should voluntarily choose to make, my generous (with other peoples’ money) friend.

Newton is small, but not bad for a school of their size.

I think you can find areas lacking at most SETX fields. I agree with Buna being near the bottom. Ours is weak, but they’re making a few upgrades on a yearly basis. There’s a difference between dated and bad. Prletty much any school in the OC would be dated and probably overdue for a retrofit or new facility. Livingston was inadequate 40 years ago, and nothing had really changed. Nederland would be at the bottom of that old district if not for Livingston. I wonder why there isn’t a concerted effort by athletic booster clubs to secure outside funding specifically for those improvements, specifically turf fields. WOS could practically play with the lights off and just rely on the glow from the refineries. You’ll never convince me that Dupont, Lanxess, Firestone, Chevron, wouldn’t be willing to make a charitable neighborly contribution to get turf installed. You know, the old “for a dontion of ______ you can install a _________ sized sign in the end zone thanking you for providing our playing surface for a term of ten years.”

Not really. When we do beat Newton they cry about the refs, facing a bigger school, having to ride a school bus instead of a charter, etc....

The first one was a bad experience in Stump’s farewell season, and last year wasn’t a bad game even though we were banged up. I wish I had a better feel for what to expect from my Beloved Bridge City Tackle Football Cardinals in 2018.

If Newton beats WOS and Gilmer convincingly next year, then Newton Fan can feel free to speculate about who “they would have beaten” after next season. Facts are facts... Newton didn’t face a team anywhere near as good as these two at any point last year. As Ric Flair said.... “to be The Man, you’ve got to at least play somebody who was worth a crap before you start bumping your gums.” Or something like that.

2-2 to BC, too, I think.

Lumberton has a good coach that uses a system that probably works best with the athletes they have. If your a small school that runs a decent wing-T, there’s nothing as aggravating as a much bigger school that runs a decent wing-t. Fwiw I expected LCM to roll year in and year out once they dropped down.... except they haven’t. I suppose Lumberton could have the same results. Three of the six teams in this district are dropping down from 5A. Splendora, Livingston, and Lumberton are all joining LCM who recently dropped to 4A.

Obama Lyins. All kidding aside, I’ve got no problem with a school named after President Obama. The guy’s a role model. The name of the school is lame, though. There’s no winners on that list.

Give me a break... WOS had had YEARS of success just like Newton. The difference is that, despite playing in the SC game in 4 consecutive years, I don’t recall a single thread in WOS fans were posting about which other, larger champions they would have beaten. Newton keeps claiming that, as state champions and with all of their “talent,” they could compete and or beat numerous other opponents... when Newton’s actual 2017 history indicates nothing of the sort. Newton beat exactly nobody of note above their classification (3A D2), yet they are here proclaiming that they could beat anybody in 3A or 4A. Better yet, Newton Fan is happy to boast that they would have beaten WOS when by all accounts Newton was scared to even make that matchup when it was offered. To be honest, that sounds more like the description of your alligator-mouthed friend.

Well of course not. We already know that Newton would have crushed Carthage and Manvel, too. WOS would have beaten Newton by at LEAST 3 TDs. Newton Fan is delusional.

My brother-in-law coaches cross country pretty well, but I don’t think it’ll translate very well to the football program. That dude is weird. Like.... I tell my kids not to sit on Uncle _________’s lap weird.

There’s more to life than Ws and Ls, my friend. Were you playing the year Dan Hooks got the officials to postpone the 2nd half of a game until the next day because the wet field was slowing the Mustangs down and they were losing to the PE kids? We’re just snakebit as far as the Mustangs go. Even when we miraculously end up in a close game with you guys we still find a way to lose. There’s no way y’all beat us 28 times in a row... but y’all have. It’s like losing to your big brother over and over and over and over. But one day we’ll get ours. It’s gonna be sweet. That’s why we keep showing up every year. Maybe not this year... but one year. Lol. Take it easy.

Yeah.... I said that. What kind of fan would I be if I went around predicting my team would lose? In all fairness, we have a decent squad every few years. That particular year we had one of the best BC squads that we’ve seen since we ALMOST beat WOS in 2012, I think. The bad news is that we had a good squad for BC at the same time WOS had one of the best squads in Tx HSFB. That’s just the breaks, though. In retrospect, that WOS team should have been good for a 2 or 3 TD victory over us. With all of the extracurricular BS caused by our team in the buildup and the subsequent suspension of some of our kids, you had a demoralized BC squad facing a hyper-motivated WOS squad and the score is what the score was. I’m not saying that the outcome would have been any different without all of our self-inflicted distraction(s), but I think the game would have been a little more competitive. The hangover from that beat down held over through the next week in which we sleep-walked through a similar beatdown by a unusually weak Newton team that eventually lost out to Arp in the 3rd round. Fortunately we had two consecutive bye weeks and rebounded to win our first DC in years before losing a close game in the 3rd round. And as far as 80-nothing, if those WOS kids could have scored 80, they would have. The chain gang held when they needed to, but still gave up over a hundred yards rushing to Draper. We even missed a chip shot field goal after we drove the field. It absolutely wasn’t our night. And like I said, even if it was our night, I’m confident we still would have probably lost by 3 TDs. My favorite part of that season (my kid’s senior season) was the game against Silsbee in BC. Not because we won a nail biter over a really strong Silsbee team, but because a number of WOS players were there on their bye week in the BC stands, cheering us on. If you weren’t a part of either of our communities, you probably can’t imagine how big of an impact that whole series of events had on our season and on our players and communities. While people from the outside like to bash us over the events of that week, they’ll never understand the profound impact and lessons learned through that particular series of events and the character displayed by so many in addressing the issue. Anyways, it’s all history now.

There are always exceptions. My point is this. IF the Kountze team that featured Arnold had made 4-5 rounds into the playoffs with the same exact roster that they had when Arnold was there, you would have seen 4-5 kids with D1 offers because they had been successful in the playoffs against other teams. Does that mean that there were 4-5 undiscovered talents on Kountze? Who knows? Making multiple rounds will absolutely get more looks for your kids. At the end of the day, offers really don’t mean anything. There’s a conversation going on right now about how few kids from Central got offers versus previous years. We’d give credit or blame to the coaching staff for that change. Newton kids are getting plenty of looks and a lot of it has to do with their success they’ve had crushing tomato cans in an inferior division. I could care less how they do... but if Newton fan wants to show up and say, “yeah... we could have beaten anybody in 3A or 4A, and the fact that some of our kids have gotten D1 offers is proof...” well... they need corrected. That’s what I’m here for.

You mean the kids who have offers but haven’t actually played anybody yet. Trust me... these kids just like the rest of “D1 Talent” coming from small schools, aka “weak competition” will face their first real tests (and get exposed) when they actually get to college. History keeps proving me right over and over. No offense, but Newton hasn’t exactly been tested by the Manvels, Highland Parks, Lake Travis, etc. Newton kids are “battle tested” (hahaha!) by the likes of such powerhouses as BC.... EC..... Garrison. I appreciate that Newton had a good year for a 3AD2 school. But that’s what it was, and that’s all it will be this year, too. Some semi-decent athletes will look really good against some other teeny tiny teams from places that none of us could locate on a map, and then Newton Fan will turn up taking about what they “coulda” done. And immediately after that will be Signing Day, aka “The Last Time We Ever Heard From That D1 Kid From Newton Day.” Stay in your lane, Eagle Fan. I know you guys get the same trophy as the other Championship Teams, but it doesn’t mean you’d stack up on the field.

I’d bet good money that the kid in front of Elam didn’t play for a 3A D2 school.