CardinalBacker

You mean a thorough investigation like the one the election deniers had in Arizona where they found that Biden won by more than reported? [Hidden Content] "Just because we can't prove it (or even find any evidence) doesn't mean it didn't happen!"

OH, I see.... just because they admitted that the stories they told about Dominion were all lies, doesn't mean that they're all lies because you never liked Fox anyways. Makes sense. But only in Trumpville.

I guess I don't follow.... Fox stated that the Dominion machines helped steal the election.... Dominion sued because Fox lied about them. All Fox had to do is show proof that Dominion machines were involved in fraud and the lawsuit would have been dismissed. But instead they paid out 787 million dollars to settle the suit? When all they had to do was back up their statements with evidence? C'mon.... y'all got lied to, and you believed it. Some of you still believe. I'll bet you think pro wrestling is real, too.

Now that your "Fair and Balanced" News source has admitted that they were lying about election fraud, do you realize that you've been lied to? I'll bet not. Rudy lost his license, Fox apologize 787.5 million times, and y'all still can't face the truth... it's pathetic.

In late breaking news, Fox News just settled with Dominion for $787 million dollars over the lies that Fox hosts and guests spread about voting fraud in the 2020 Election. [Hidden Content] Crickets, huh?

Anybody that pledges blind allegiance to a political party or public servant is a clown... kinda like when 95% of the black population votes Democrat. You and I might disagree philosophically, but at least you're doing some thinking. That's rare around here.

Keep voting for "Republican" candidates that can't win a general election.... you're just as guilty as the guy who voted Dem.

I'm not making generalizations about Soros... but y'all literally act like the Pandemic never happened, it was just a made-up event that was planned to cost trump the white house. But y'all also believe that 1/6 never happened and Trump won, except the election got stolen.... and you also believe trump is going to win this time around. It's really sad to see the disillusionment.

Come on..... y'all are all like "it was the Plandemic!" Yeah, George Soros planned and created a disease that would kill millions across the globe just so that Donald Trump wouldn't get re-elected. I wish y'all realized how stupid you sound.

The Election was stolen, and nobody died from Covid. Sincerely, The Red Hatters.

That's the basic difference between the two schools of thought. One side typically goes about the business of society, creating goods, offering services, investing, profiting... and the other side doesn't seem to understand why they can't have it all, too, "just because." All one has to have is basic understanding of micro/macro economics to see that no society can afford to feed, house, educate, treat, and provide a "living wage" to a majority of the population who is unable/unwilling to contribute themselves. Plain and simple. You can blame it on the 1%, the Jews, White People, or anybody else that you please.... but the fact remains that the numbers won't work-it's impossible. But a reasonable person (often castigated as a "fence rider") will also admit that a country where working class stiffs (the ones who aren't suckling at the teat of big government) shouldn't be paying income taxes while the ultra wealthy (Bezos, Zuckerberg, TRUMP) don't pay any personal income taxes while living in the lap of luxury. Both sides are literally wrong, and both sides have their dumbest common denominators out voting for ideas that aren't feasible.

Which part to do you agree with? I think he will win the Republican nomination but get beaten in the general election. I just don't understand the logic of people like Reagan... Trump got beaten handily last time, so why would it be any different this time around? I don't think the people who voted against Trump have "learned their lesson." Even if you believe that Trump really won, but the election was "stolen," you have to ask what's going to keep it from happening again? The unfortunate part is that a lot of people feel exactly like Reagan, and combined with the Dems that will cross over in the primaries to make sure Trump becomes the R nominee (Like Rs did for Hillary in 2016). Imagine a beauty contest, and the Trump fans are like "it doesn't matter how pretty she is.... she'd do the best job as Ms. America!" Except this is a popularity contest (literally... who can get the most people to vote for them) and Trump's forte' is to alienate potential voters with his personality and behaviors.

Fair enough… but nobody was working when Biden took office, now unemployment is at an all time low. Can you give him credit for that? It’s not the tepid growth in employment that we had under Obama.

Well, if you’re going to give Trump credit for the numbers early in his term (before it fell all to pieces, for which Trump is given zero blame), then can’t we at least give Biden a credit that minority joblessness is at an all time low after inheriting that mess at the start of ‘21?

Unemployment numbers are the lowest of all time today… ever. Thanks for bringing it up.

I think you misunderstood me. My point is this… I wasn’t that surprised when Obama got elected. I was extremely disappointed when he got re-elected in 2012 after a dismal performance…. I thought that the democrats had locked up the stupid vote. Then in 2016 the republicans said “not so fast.” We literally hired a reality tv show host and real estate mogul with zero experience at any level of government to lead us, then act surprised that he didn’t know what he was doing. “At least his heart was in the right place.” No…. If I need surgery I’m not gonna demand a surgeon who’s never operated on anyone before just because “he’s not like all of those other surgeons.” Except that’s exactly what all of the Trumpers wholeheartedly believe. And now that the patient is dead and my theoretical surgeon has had his medical license revoked (and facing manslaughter charges), y’all would be like “oh, yeah? But the funeral home sure made a lot of money! That medical review board was appointed by Soros! The DA has an axe to grind! He was the best surgeon we’ve ever had!”

How was it successful? The debt and deficit exploded, unemployment shot through the roof, we lost both houses of Congress, we almost had an insurrection when he tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power, and he’s under multiple investigations for criminal wrongdoing before and after his presidency. Heck, he even lost his shot at reelection to the worst candidate that I can remember (Biden). If that’s what you call “success” I can’t imagine what you’d call a failure.

You just agreed with me. The point is that we shouldn’t be choosing between Trump and Biden. We should be choosing a better Republican nominee in the primaries. And you’re exactly right… the masses are stupid. On one side you have them picking based on the candidates skin color/gender or because he tells good jokes and the other side picking a troll because he is really good at insulting people. Whether y’all want to believe it, the average hardcore Trumper is an ignorant fool. Probably wears camo, dropped out of school, drinks cheap beer, and couldn’t tell you a single Supreme Court Justice or know how many representatives are in the House.

Have you been to a meeting of one of your local Republican groups lately? I have, and I promise you... it's all about Trump at the grassroots level. At least in this part of the world anyways. It's the reason that sensible politicians won't speak out against trump-you'll incur the wrath of the Trump loyalists, much like you do here. And if you're lucky, you can probably get Trump to assign you a nickname and talk crap about your wife. And the "good" Christians and Republicans will ignore it because... I guess they like that type of behavior.

You can't be a conservative anymore... you have to be a Trump loyalist, or you're a beta, RINO, fence straddler, etc.... Kinda like you can't be liberal unless you're in favor of free sex changes for kindergartners and reparations for any black person. I'll be glad when rational people return to control of the parties, if there is such a thing.

Y’all all want to blame democrats for the mess we’re in, but the Rs are equally responsible because they are blindly following a man who can’t get elected because he is so offensive to decent people. Y’all nominated a turd, but then blame everybody else because they didn’t vote turd, too.

Like he did every person who worked for him? How can a guy who’s so good at talent misjudge all of those cabinet officials that he hired, then they quit, then they wrote books about how terrible of a chief executive he was? How did a “genius” make so many bad hires? CIA chiefs, FBI chiefs, ambassadors, etc… he was praising them on day one and then running them down in the press on the other end. If they were all sorry, who sorry of a chief did he have to be to hire them in the first place? Trump was a jerk, and old white guys admire that he says things for which they don’t have the balls to say. Hot wife, rich, bangs porn stars… y’all all just wish you could be like him and it’s pathetic.

I’ll be honest, a beta is a grown man that has to have the exact same opinion as the rest of the betas… an alpha will stand here and defend his positions in spite of almost universal opposition. The most beta thing a beta can do is keep re-wording the same opinion of the masses.

Oh, he's horrible.... no doubt. Probably the least effective that we've had in my lifetime. I guess that the good news is that he's ineffective at pushing a more radical agenda. But, we have to ask ourselves how we got here, and the answer is "by nominating a Republican candidate that was so offensive that he literally convinced 81 million people to vote for a senile old man like Joe Biden instead, and yet we're trying to nominate that same Republican candidate again four years later and expecting different results." My opinion is that if trump hadn't been such a jerk, Trump would have garnered just as many votes, but Biden wouldn't have received nearly as many. It's literally a beauty pageant where you sign up an ugly girl to prove that the pageants are just shallow, then complain with ol' ugly didn't win, Then do it again.

I don't know if DeSantis can get elected... but I know that Trump can't. There's no difference between the people who say "Trump was the best President EVER!" and those that say "Obama was the best President EVER!" Both let their emotions shield them from the fact that both were terrible candidates.