CardinalBacker

Son, the smart fiscal conservatives left the room a long, long time ago. Except when it comes to the social safety nets, of course.

Meh.... Both sides share responsibility for this one. Trump definitely set it in motion, but but Biden hasn't done anything to curb it, other than spending even more money.

Like Bobcat was saying... firms took out PPP loans, then had no actual losses from Covid. The loans were forgiven and those firms just had a huge "bump" in revenue for the year. Some gave bonuses, made investments... just spent more cash and the "loans" were forgiven.

The best part of the whole thing is how this is actually a result of fiscal policy in the pandemic era. The tech firms that were the primary depositors in SVB got PPP loans... that swelled the balance sheets at SVB and they needed to park that money somewhere. They bought securities at low interest rates, then inflation happened across the economy as a whole... the solution was for the Fed to raise interest rates, then suddenly SVB was paying more in interest on funds on deposit than they were making on the securities that were purchased. Long story short... the government dumped tons of cash into the economy which ended up in banks like SVB, then inflation happened, then the solution to inflation was to raise interest rates, and now the banks are failing because of that chain of events. We literally dumped Trillions into the economy re: Covid and now we're about to drop billions more to fix the problems caused by the initial dumping. This scenario last happened in the early 80s when inflation and interest rates went wild. The bad news is guys who were around at that point are all dead or retired in 2023.

In 2016 Dubois’s BC team threw the ball occasionally. They hit the tailback and what I’d call a tight end numerous times through the season. I felt like Dubois would have opened it up even more if we’d had more arm on the qb. I have a good friend who played in a wing T system in West Texas all through jh and high school and he came with us to a game or two. One of the things that he pointed out to me was how our qb would pop his head up on passing plays immediately after faking the handoff. He was like "yeah, our coach killed me over and over for that..." Dubois will throw it if he's got a kid that's capable.

I'm going to venture that it was the only year that they had a kid with a decent arm under center.

I don’t think it happens in two years, but three-four isn’t unrealistic. Do the faithful have anything to say about the upcoming season? I was thinking that WOS graduated a bunch of starters, but you’d know better than me.

Nice work.

I'm no sure that Drummer's math is on point. WOS 440/109/3.... 0.7971 SLC 584/157/8.... 0.7797 I'm too lazy to math out how many games would actually have to be won/lost to make a percentage change to favor SLC, but last year the records were 5-6 to 13-1. Since SLC has played so many more games than WOS over history, it's harder for SLC to gain ground by winning, but easier for WOS to lose ground by losing. Another 5-6 season would have WOS at 445/158/8, or 0.790.

Where are you finding those win/loss records?

Other than Clinton lying to Congress, I don't see where anybody was charged with anything. You basically just fired off a list of people you don't like.

I'm going to go out on a limb here... When a politician DOES get run out of town by his/her own party, it's typically a Dem. Like when they ran off Al Franken, Anthony Weiner, etc... The Rs tend to let their guys like Santos keep their seats.

You can't be so naive as to say that a man like yourself who is in favor of the PPP handouts is somehow different than any other man who is in favor of handouts. You's a welfare queen, too.

The politicians the next time an election comes around. You realize that you're just proving DontheCons argument, right? You're against handouts right up until one comes along that you agree with. "When the government ruins lives by purposely allowing slavery for almost 80 years, who should be held responsible?" "When the government ruins college students' futures by loaning college students money that they can't pay back, who should be held responsible?" "when the government destroys the fortunes of slaveowners by outlawing slavery and freeing slaves with no compensation to their previously lawful owners and bankrupting them, who should be held responsible?" When the government mandates an evacuation, should they also give handouts to businesses for lost revenue during the evacuation? But to answer you question, the guilty "party" in the shutdown was the virus itself. Good luck collecting your handouts from COVID 19, though.

It's like backing your car into a tree in your own front yard and suing yourself. Have fun spending your "reward" you got from the "responsible party." Nice try.

That's the whole problem. "The government" isn't taking responsibility, the US taxpayer is. It's like taking $50 out of your checking account to pay yourself to mow your own yard, then putting it back in your checking account and calling it "income." The government basically borrowed money in our name and gave it to us "free" except we still have to pay it back in the form of taxes. But your argument is one that a republican would use to justify taking a handout just like a lib.

I agree completely. Almost completely unnecessary. And facilitated by both parties, if my memory is correct.

So.... can you point me at any of these fabled "handouts to large corporations" that the left likes to talk about? All I ever hear is how unfair it is that oil companies are allowed to write off all of their losses on exploration in year one. I mean, that and all of those green energy expenditures. Conservatives don't want handouts to anybody. Republican lawmakers do some really dumb stuff, though.

Right... but the same people who are arguing about how "a person or a nation doesn't know their true history it is not a good thing" are the same ones tearing down statues, BANNING ANTHEMS, and renaming schools. You only want to promote history that pushes the victim narrative that the left loves.

So.... with 120 years of work, why hasn't the the fossil fuel industry gotten it together satisfactorily? Hint... because they donate to Republicans. Green Energy companies give to Democrats.

Right… if you’ve got problems in 2023 it’s because James Madison‘s daddy used to rape his slaves. If I’ve got problems it’s just because i make bad decisions. Slavery has had zero impact on your life or wealth. That is a fact. It’s just a crutch at this point.

I never like to get in the way of somebody's trip in the wrong direction, but you have to ask yourself... "why would Francis Scott Key wake up on the morning after a great battle, half expecting to see that the United States was no more, write a song about it, then suddenly toss in a verse about how much he despised slaves?" He didn't. "The War of 1812 was caused, among other things, by Great Britain’s attempt to restrict U.S. trade and America’s desire to expand its northern territory by annexing Canada. By 1810, more than 15 percent of the U.S. population was enslaved, and British forces recruited escaped slaves to fight for the slaves’ freedom against the American militia. This unit, referred to as the Colonial Marines, was part of the British forces that overran Washington, D.C., in 1814 and set fire to the White House. So when Key references the “foul footstep’s” of the “hireling and slave” who “no refuge could save” from “the gloom of the grave” in the third verse, he’s referring to the killing of Colonial Marines." You can look at it through whatever racially tinged glasses you wish, but sometimes you should just ask your self "why?" I'd also like to point out that these black men (the "hirelings and slaves") joined with British forces to torch the White House. That really had to bother a slave owner like Francis Scott Key.... But you also have to remember that in his later years Francis Scott Key also won several legal battles that helped slaves gain their freedom. I also like to point out the similarity between the blacks that fought back against the US government in 1814 were just as seditious and treasonous as the Southerners who did the same thing just 40 short years later. Time has a funny way of changing the way that people feel about things. How can one group of people hear the same song and be moved to tears like the Philly Coach at the Super Bowl and the next guy hear the same song and refuse to remove his hat or get out of his seat? It's all about upbringing. One group is taught that it's all of us together and the other group is taught to look for things to be be mad about. In this case a third verse that nobody has ever even heard.

It's a term of endearment in our community.

“Leprechauns and Unicorns?” That’s pretty harsh coming from a guy who believes that the 2020 election was stolen. Even though nobody has come forth with any proof. 300 million smart phones in the US and nobody bothered to snap a single photo of all of that “election fraud.”

It's going to be an interesting election, that's for sure. As soon as the Democratic race is decided, I think we'll see large bodies of Dems crossing over in States like Texas to vote for Trump in the primaries because they are well aware that Trump is an easy out if he gets the Republican nomination.