vidor pirate

Vidor may well have a better team than Nederland this year, but I will bet you a coca cola that Vidor will not contend for a regional, much less state title this year. This is an excercise in futility, but I will try this one more time. You ask so I tell you, the reason I think I have a pretty good idea about the real quality of these teams is because like a few others I know here, I have seen so much high school football you would not believe it. Way outside of 20-4A and Region III. I really have. I have seen playoff games by the hundreds, all sorts of teams from all classes but mostly 4A because it interests me. I have seen what really truly good teams look like when they play. Our beloved 20-4A teams are good solid high school football teams but they are not playing anywhere close to the level of execution that really good teams play. Really good teams play lights out and I mean LIGHTS OUT defense with no mistakes against teams they should beat. Offenses are crisp and virtually flawless, its like watching a machine, its awe inspiring to watch them execute. When two of these teams meet its like watching a chess game to see who is going to be the first one to make a mistake. Dayton last year was a great example of this defensively. But Lake Travis made them look like a Junior High team. Once Dayton got rolling there was absolutely no one that was going to beat them, they were truly awesome,, until they met Goliath. This year when Nederland hammered PNG and then scored 49 points in less than a half of football on LCM, I thought maybe they were beginning to show signs of being some semblance "that good", but they were not, not yet anyway and I doubt they will be. By now they would be hammering average district teams, even the good ones if they were that good. Central has played too close to mediocre teams this season to classify them as "that good". Dont get me wrong I realize Vidor is totally bad to the bone but playing a 1 point game with Vidor is not a good thing. With all due respect, if a team loses to Vidor odds are its a sign of that teams weakness not Vidor's strength. I know I am a jerk for saying that but its true. Lumberton met up with a pretty good team last year in Waller, but they (neither Lumberton nor Waller) were good enough.. Central and LaMarque a couple of years ago, Central saw that elite level.. I am telling you guys that have not seen it in person, its a whole different level of football it really is. When you see it you will know,, there is no doubt about it. All that being said, my opinion is just that. Just like other things,, we all have em'. i never said our district was excellent, but i did say that they are not mediocre i guess you are backing off from that statement also, we dominated the team you have winning district, so you can not say that we are mediocre...

I can see how you feel that way being from Vidor and never going to the playoffs. If you had ever been you would have seen that the teams get a LOT better in the playoffs. They have complete teams. Teams that can pass, run, and play tremendous defense. No one in 20-4a has the complete package. From what I have seen this far I think Lumberton has the best chance of advancing in the playoffs. They have a solid defense and a decently two dimensional offense. Central is to one dimensional on offense and has a pretty good defense. I think Vidor very easily could be 1-3 in district if not for one very spirited half of football. Nederland has a tremendous offense and an iffy defense. The wildcard to me is still Livingston. we have been to the playoffs and we could very easily be 4-0 in district as well buddy, its a double edged sword thats why i dont deal with what-iffs, i deal with what did's

how exactly can you prove that the top 4 teams in district are "not that good" you can't...

come on now, everyone has their off years

i'm sorry, but this post makes absolutely no sense at all you are completely ignorant of 20-4a football and actually, i'm not sorry, this is one of the stupidest posts i have ever seen on here lol Pirate, coming from you that really stings buddy. Soulja, its honestly not sour grapes at all, I really truly don't hate Central. I would almost rather talk face to face about it than online because its so easy to be misunderstood online. If we talked eye to eye, I know that my comments would come off to you as honest and genuine not sour grapes. I have an opinion about what I saw last night from Nederland and Central, not intended to put Central down or belittle their win. Just an assessment of what I witnessed. I had a feeling that Nederland had not faced a decent opponent and Central was just that to me,,, decent and that was all it took to take them down. This game verified that Nederland is just ok, not great like we Nederland fans were hoping. Reality check, thats all. So what you mean to tell me is before this game, Nederland was a great team and their offense is unstoppable, and all other teams in this district sucks. Now that Nederland have lost, all teams are Mediocre now. I guess it hurts you that other teams may be better than Nederland. Ok, I'll play. No, I have definitely never said that Nederland was a great team, at least not this season. I am reasonably certain that I personally never said that their offense was unstoppable this year. Go find somewhere that I said anything of the sort, I am pretty sure I never did. Again, written word is easily misunderstood because,, I have no problems with other teams being better than Nederland. I have no problem with Nederland losing to great teams, I do hate to see them lose to average teams because it confirms that they are not as great as I hoped. I am sure that you being a pretty astute fan feel the same way about Central when you really think about it. I am pretty sure that the fact that you only beat Vidor by one point brings a shiver down your spine because you know that Central really should be able to beat them more decisively that that if they are a legit playoff contender. Based on historical experience, results and what I saw last night I think Central is average in the big picture. I said yesterday before the game was played that I did not think there were any legit contenders in our district INCLUDING Nederland and it was going to probably take a few rounds into the playoffs to get to a legit contender to prove otherwise. As a matter of fact I was careful to say in all my posts that the jury was still out when questions about Nederlands actual strength were asked. I was hopeful that they were a great team, who isn't hopeful that their team is great on a Statewide contender level? You have to see what I am talking about, you have been around too long. Just looking at last night and not the big picture I honestly say, kudos and big congrats to Central on a well played game. i'm guessing that you have been away from 20-4a for a while we have a good team this year.. and i know what's gonna send chills down your spine playin vidor on homecoming baby!!! also... ur an idiot

i'm sorry, but this post makes absolutely no sense at all you are completely ignorant of 20-4a football and actually, i'm not sorry, this is one of the stupidest posts i have ever seen on here lol Pirate, coming from you that really stings buddy. Soulja, its honestly not sour grapes at all, I really truly don't hate Central. I would almost rather talk face to face about it than online because its so easy to be misunderstood online. If we talked eye to eye, I know that my comments would come off to you as honest and genuine not sour grapes. I have an opinion about what I saw last night from Nederland and Central, not intended to put Central down or belittle their win. Just an assessment of what I witnessed. I had a feeling that Nederland had not faced a decent opponent and Central was just that to me,,, decent and that was all it took to take them down. This game verified that Nederland is just ok, not great like we Nederland fans were hoping. Reality check, thats all. So what you mean to tell me is before this game, Nederland was a great team and their offense is unstoppable, and all other teams in this district sucks. Now that Nederland have lost, all teams are Mediocre now. I guess it hurts you that other teams may be better than Nederland. something to that effect im guessing this guy's idiocy still confuses me though and y would you bash your own team???

predicton... [glow=red,2,300][shadow=red,left]PAIN!!!!![/shadow][/glow] vidor big sorry bears looks like we won't be hearing "that's good for another bear first down" very much this week

i'm sorry for the rude and disrespectful way those kids acted... and the parents should be ashamed for themselves, what ever happend to setting a good example... i personally told every png fan near me good game, because it was a close 1 to the very end... once again sorry for the behavior of those idiot fans you know what they say about village idiots... everyone's got a few of em

He looked a little lost. Maybe he expected it to roll into the endzone. Regardless though he should have moved away from it. Great game, Pirates! I knew we could beat the Indians if we got the turnovers under control. Hold onto the ball, run down the clock ... simple, but effective. Good play guys. And game ball should go to Pitman. Shane was great out there tonight. Dang right, congrats to my buddy Shayne! About time he finds the endzone... And I think on his fumble he was already down? i was down there on that end, and it did look like his knee was down before the ball came out, but it was close

central... big

sorry png, gotta give this 1 to lumberton... unless some of the l-train's players heads explode from having to listen to cherokee 43590236450423 times, then it may get interesting god that thing is so annoying... must you play it every 3 seconds???

livingston baffles me, they play good some nights and bad others... that being said, i think nederland comes out with a win in a close 1 here

why must you constantly bring up our game... we beat you... end of story... get over it

i saw the same thing when we played ozen apparantly not to the degree they did to yall though

holding on to the football (we did much better last week)

ahh ok, yep sour grapes...

i'm sorry, but this post makes absolutely no sense at all you are completely ignorant of 20-4a football and actually, i'm not sorry, this is one of the stupidest posts i have ever seen on here

thank you very much great game to your boys good luck the rest of the year we got pirate seats in the stands if you want one :-)

Same too ya. We did not turn the ball over that much tonight and PNG did. That was the difference! I'm still wondering why PNG's punt returner touched that ball on the 5 yard line... And we showed what we can do if we hold onto the ball! Nice field goal by Travis :]] haha i was right in front of it he got away with pickin it up like that once on the other end of the field, but didn't get away with it twice

Congrats Soul Man, yoou guys are making me look smart! Keep rolling!!! same here...

grats rai duhs

good game tonight png guys sorry we had to end it for yall do us a favor and take down some of our competition in the playoff hunt?

moody at lcm

If PN-G pulls this one off, mark my words.... Pirates fans will jump all over this!! this was not a touch down i was sitting in the general admission right side and had a clear, unobstructed view of it the ball was at least half a yard away from the goalline, his head crossed, but the ball was nowhere near it but no problem, its all good, good game png and whats with jaren spikes aiming for our o-lines knees when we were kneelin the clock out??? that showed no class whatsoever, and he deserved to be booted

i sincerely doubt we have as many turnovers as we did in ozen... sorry guys, but that was rediculous