bobcat4life

[b][/b][i]I attended one of the school board meetings earlier in the year.  I was astonished and mortified at the conduct of 2 of the school board members. If you had seen what I saw, you might have a different opinion of the whole situation. They had hatred in their eyes and treated Coach Huckabay in a way that no one deserves to be treated. If all they were concerned about was adding classes for different sports, they wouldn't have acted the way they did. The intentions they had were definitely personal. There is nothing anyone can say to change my mind. I saw it for myself, and at the time, I wasn't even aware of what was really going on. If there is a Code of Conduct for the School Board then a line was certainly crossed.[/i][/quote] I am not sure what kind of line they crossed.  I know every member of the board personally.  I would venture to say that there is one member that is totally a Huck supporter. His son had a positive experience as a football player with Huck, and therefore he bases his opinion solely on that experience.  I would say that the other 6 (including the one that has been absent for months based on sickness) range from lukewarm to wishing he was gone.  With that being said, this is essentially the exact same board that hired him 4 years ago.  These folks are not wild eyed crazy folks.  They are respected members of the community who are doing their best to do a thankless job.  They cannot even comment on their respective issues because of their elected positions and exposing the district to lawsuits. I don't go to board meetings any more because they are long and boring and the people sitting in the audience know about 10% of why everyone is voting a certain way.  The real facts are exposed in close session to which nobody is privy to.  What I am trying to say is that they know a lot more about the inner workings of the district than a few people outside of that circle.  I am not trying to tell you that I know a lot about it, but I at least have corresponded with all of the members, and not just one or two that I happen to agree with.

I agree with all of that bud, see I knew we would agree one day

No, but to be honest, I think that Kelly had a few down years in talent during that time frame.  I didn't say he was a miracle worker lol And if you think OF is bad about parents being involved, well... can you imagine?? BTW Solo, how far do you get to go back to talk about kids being different?  Theriot was here like 12 years ago.  I'll give you the argument that things were different in the 70's when you were around, but come on now... :) And if beating 2a schools in football is the criteria for a successful athletic program, there is something seriously wrong with how we evaluate things  ???

[quote name="catfever" post="1206199" timestamp="1333555562"] I have one question.  Is he getting all this support from the community because the football team is doing better than under the previous coach?  I would think that most head coaches/athletic directors would teach about discipline, morals, mental toughness, etc.  I would just like to know if this would be any different if he had only won 2 or 3 games a year the past three years and the football numbers were as low as they are. [/quote] Not sure of that Cat, I have been around this district for 40+ years.  I think the system he runs is perfect for our kids.  I also think he is expectional at teaching that particular system.  Under the current system we are never going to be a football powerhouse.  The truth is that one parent spoke up on his behalf that actually had a kid in the program.  The only real beef I have is the overall implementation of the Athletic program.  I personally believe that when Randy Theriot was here we had the best AD OF has ever had.  Almost 7 out of 10 kids were involved in athletics.  I don't think that anyone that played for him would say that he was "soft" or opposed to discipline.  He is the one that started the "one heartbeat" concept, he started the holding up the #1 sign during the school song.  He was a motivator.  I don't know him that well, but whatever he was doing, everyone could learn from.

OK, I have heard some of these coaches with my own ears.  I have watched them sit on a bench during a game and laugh and look completely disinterested while they are losing.  If I were them, I would at least learn how to fake being interested. But it all goes back to my main point.  It is the AD's job, as the person responsible for the Athletic Program, to help these young men that are coaches do the best job they can do.

Amen Solo, but here is my issue.  If a coach or teacher is complaining openly to kids about their job the solution is simple.  Don't renew their contract.  Kind of like if you were running around in your job complaining to your customer's that the company that you are working for isn't a good company, or just generally stirring strife, what would happen?  They fire you for that, and you deserve it :)

Well Aggie, if you are talking about efforts from kids, then I agree with you. Here is what I am saying; If you are an AD, and responsible for all sports, both girls and boys, at each level, then aren't you responsible for them?  OF had a junior high coach this year in basketball that would routinely tell the kids how much he hated the sport, how he signed on to coach football and he wanted no part of coaching basketball.  Now, I can understand that, but when you don't give your best effort at coaching, you shouldn't be there.  It is about kids, and not him.  There are many of us who routinely perform duties in our jobs that we don't like to do, but we do them or get fired.  The issue currently is that we want to put our best foot forward in each sport.  If we start playing marbles, then I would like to see whoever coaches that sport do their best.  Is that too much to ask? And if we have a kid that wants to be the best marble player ever and he doesn't play another sport, then we should be there for him to do that. And if we put a baby sitter with them that doesn't like the sport, we aren't giving our best effort as a school.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1205608" timestamp="1333465090"] [quote author=bobcat4life link=topic=98194.msg1205598#msg1205598 date=1333462729] I should re state that comment.  I know that we cannot win in everything, however,[b] I do believe that we can always give our best effort at winning in everything[/b].  As long as we do that, I am good to go.  ;D [/quote] Are you questioning the effort given to win over the past few years? [/quote] Not in Football

I should re state that comment.  I know that we cannot win in everything, however, I do believe that we can always give our best effort at winning in everything.  As long as we do that, I am good to go.  ;D

One More thing my good friend, don't tell me about rambling and beating a dead horse when I know your getting warmed up for a "lesson's learned, the good ole days" speech :)

Red Solo Cup, you are a little sensitive in your advanced age :) Let me be clear, I had read all of the other thread where someone went wild talking about how anyone who doesn't like the current program must hate discipline and hard work.  Its not always about you buddy :) Secondly, when we were in High School 100 years ago and Peveto was the AD we had Riddick, Rice and Condrey as basketball coaches.  Every single one had basketball experience. Also on the 3 boys, once again...."your so vain...." wasn't you buddy.  But, a lot of people in the community have that idea in their mind, cuz certain people from within the district are putting that out there. As far as Nederland's program is concerned, is that a joke?? They hired one of the best, hard working basketball coaches in this area and let him have a year around program.  Don't misunderstand, I want to win in everything we participate in, and I am even ok with a football coach running the show, as long as he is fair to all the coaches sports, and their respective kids.  Randy Theriot did it at OF, tell me the difference 12 years later?

Once again Solo cup, you are missing the point.  The idea that people would like a more balanced Athletic program, does not mean that they are anti football.  That is exactly what this is all about.  It is not about 3 young men that made a mistake, it is not about pulling sleds, it is about the fact that there is a significant difference in how the programs are treated.  Case in point; The basketball program did not have one coach with real basketball experience, not one, other than the head coach.  And I'm talking about from the 7th grade up.  Don't get me wrong I think Prouse does a great job with it, even though he really hates the sport.  How many coaches are hired based on ANY experience other than football experience? So let's cut the bull, and all of the goofy comments about if you don't like the way things are then you want a soft program, cuz I haven't heard one comment about that, other than from people that are just throwing rocks.  In my humble opinion hard work isn't the problem.  Here's another question for you Solo cup, (I'm beginning to like the new name) why didn't any of his coaches show up for either meeting?  Do you think they are soft, or want a weaker, less disciplined program? I don't think so scooter :) 

So in other words, you really have no clue what is going on??? lol And Josh loves Huck.  I'm not trying to tell you that as a football coach he doesn't have some things I admire and respect.  What I am trying to say is that someone has thrown this deal WAY out of porportion.  And, my friend, when you comment on threads such as this, you are involved, whether you like it or not :)

Also, Mr. Solo, tell me please exactly what the board has done that has everyone up in the air?  The fact that the new Supt. made some immediate changes in the program based on 2 things, either they put coaches in a direct line of fire from a liability standpoint, or they violated a UIL rule makes her a God send as far as I can see.  I have never met the lady, but if your employees are performing a task, (in this case monitoring sled pulls) that they PERSONALLY can be sued for, not the district, but individually, wouldn't you want them to stop it?  She didn't say, hey you can't have any discipline.  They can run stands, flip tires, run, etc. All this stuff has been blown completely out of line.  (ps. when did you change your name from Bleed, I liked that better)

Then I guess that part didn't pertain to you.  Have you heard the song, "you're so vain...." lol Here is the deal Solo, or whatever your name is today... :) My biggest problem are the people beating up the school board.  What is the difference between my taking up for them, and all of the people running around taking up for Huck.  Other than the fact they are all from the community, don't get paid for their thankless job and can't even speak up on their own behalf because of law suits.  Contrary to what you believe, I do not dislike the man.  As far as the folks who have told you how many life lessons their sons have learned, what are they exactly? (Don't forget I've had 2 sons play for him) Secondly, if they had played for say, Stump in BC, would those lessons have been different?  The fact is that sometimes, you learn those lessons from being involved in sports, no matter where you go to school. 

OH Mr. Little, you know I love you and we go back a long way.  I also know that a lot of what you say, or don't say is to stir things up.  Here are a few questions I have for you; 1. How should an AD be judged?  2. Wins and losses? 3. Number of kids in the program? 4. Overall morale and unity of the school? Secondly, who told you or anyone else for that matter it was the kids that received discipline last year?  Sure they were the school board's kids, but, to my knowledge, Mr. McAlpin, the principal, administered the discipline, NOT Huck.  Funny, I haven't heard one negative word concerning McAlpin.  Those kids confessed, they were not caught.  They could have lied about it, but they didn't.  They then faced their discipline, and went on.  In short, the issues going on have zero to do with the discipline those boys faced, but rather a difference of opinion in certain facets of the athletic program. For anyone to say different is irresponsible.  Secondly, the boys we are talking about are just that.... boys.  Not sure which kids aren't susceptible to making mistakes. Here is the other deal, when the board suggested months ago they would like to see a class for basketball kids, etc. It was a recommendation to the Supt.  Why there is this huge panic with everyone running around screaming about the school board is a mystery to me.  I know every one of them personally.  I do not agree with each of them on every issue, but I will say this, they are all in it for the benefit of kids. Period.

Not sure how long you've been in the OF area, but I will say this. Many of the folks that got up and spoke don't have kids in the program.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but here are the facts; I don't remember when our numbers were so low in athletics, and that includes football.  For the first time in forever we had no JV team last year.  Only 22 suited out during Varsity games.  I have 6 kids, 3 of whom have graduated, and 3 that are still there.  Someone is building this hysteria around jumping on a band wagon acting like the school board is on a witch hunt. I would suggest that everyone actually get facts before they make comments.  There are so many issues with your post, that I would almost prefer you contact a school board member, rather than make judgements on some people that I've known all my life. I can tell you that every one of them, in my opinion, whether they support Huck or not, are doing what they feel is best for all of the kids in the district.

if number 10 for HJ worked on defense as much as he worked his mouth he would be a pretty good player....

26-6 free throws shot. H-J was called for 4 fouls halfway through the first quarter, only 5 more the rest of the game. Total foul count was HJ 9 OF 20, OF never pressed, HJ pressed the entire game, just a couple of interesting stats. HJ didn't miss free throws down the stretch which accounted for the significant 4th quarter point spread. One thing about going to HJ, you can always count on their fans not knowing how to sit on the home side. Only place in the district like that...

OF in 2 9-3 11-1(5)

[quote name="Abe Lincoln" post="697508" timestamp="1257390936"] if OF wans to win they better learn how to punt.  they definitely should have come away from the BC game with a win but its hard when your handing over field position to the team with the best running back in the district.  as for me, i always like an underdog and i'm pulling for OF mostly because i'm tired of seeing WOS dominate year after year.  ;) [/quote] Abe the reason they didn't punt on at least 2 occasions had more to do with them needing to win by 9 or more.  If that factor wasn't there, they would have punted and probably won the game.  You do things differently when you have to worry about more than just winning.

I am very sure that there is no way he would have played if he wouldn't have been cleared to play by his Dr.  All I was saying was that the kid has guts. 

I will also say this about Corey, he suffered a concussion last week that affected 9 out of 13 sections of his brain.  Now lots of kids would have been on the sidelines, and if they did play they would tend to be tentative.  Corey went out there and gave it his all, competing just like he hadn't suffered an injury at all.  My hats are off to a young man that obviously has a lot of heart.

Heck of a game.  It's hard to blame Coach Huck for going for it on 4th down when it worked for him the first half.  I love the fact that he shows confidence in his kids.  The spread offense isn't what won the game for BC, it was when they quit trying to pass and relied on what they do best, pounding the ball up the middle with Menard. If BC would have continued passing as they did in the first half, the game would have had a different outcome.  And for whoever said Corey Huckabay has a bad attitude are you kidding me? 

Ok, I'm with you... I find everyone to be strangely silent on this rivalry game.  Maybe its because there is a lot more at stake this year than pride.  :)