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There is a freshman at Brook who looks to be about 6'7"

The Bruins will have to replace their QB and several receivers on offense.  The offensive line should be their strength. On defense, lots of holes to fill.  Looks like a rebuilding year, but we should win some games if our QB situation gets worked out.

Good job PAM.. Bring it home.

They beat us in every phase of the game.  They had Reyes confused in the passing game.  Some of his sacks were not due to line play, but due to holding the ball way too long, although it didn't help missing a starter up there.  Our Defense held up against the run in the first half, but they hit big passes out of 3rd and long.  Pearland had a much better kicking game and we could not get pressure on their QB.  I'll blame this partly on the fact that one DE was on the sideline injured and another suffered an apparent ankle sprain early on and became a non factor on passing plays. We did get big hits on their star running back, but he bounced right up after most of them.  I wasn't around during the lean years at Brook, but this was the worst loss I have seen. 

WOS gave it a heck of an effort, with a new QB.  Salute! WOS

Final      NS 44  Hightower 20

NS 37-14

NS 23-14

North Shore up 16-7

[quote name="NDNfan91" post="912462" timestamp="1290122064"] I had the same problem at the gate.  I left some things in the car so I could help my mom with her things and when I asked if I could go get my things I got a lecture first on how we're not supposed to go out and come back in but they'd allow it this time....and I was perfectly nice to the attendant. However, I'll take minor inconvenience over driving to Houston and it seems like Stallworth had the same policy. [/quote] Sounds like she was perfectly nice to you as well.

[quote name="Scooter!" post="912320" timestamp="1290108961"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=76299.msg912092#msg912092 date=1290094028] I think about how much fun it is beating PAM.          ;D [/quote]I oughta ban you for an hour  :D [/quote] :P :D :D

[quote name="ljeicp08" post="912242" timestamp="1290102752"] [quote author=freshman1 link=topic=76229.msg911965#msg911965 date=1290058042] How did the WB boys look ??? [/quote] They shoot lots of 3's......... [/quote] They are small, but they will have their big guy back after football.(If 6'3 is big)

[quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="912209" timestamp="1290099697"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61122.msg912096#msg912096 date=1290094195] Like the other areas that have had AR's in place for a few years, the east Texas hunters will be drug along kicking and screaming. Look at any of the hunting forums from the people that hunt in those areas and ask them if they wish to get away from AR's. The results outstripped their anger at the government telling them what to do. Many of the ones that complained the loudest are now their biggest proponents. [/quote] For every one you find that likes the restriction, I can find 3 that don't like it.  I'll keep calling Austin and lobbying for the ability to kill cull bucks in East Texas where I hunt and you keep applauding the restrictions while hunting in a county that more than likely doesn't apply them. I guess I have more condidence in the ability of East Texas landowners/clubs to manage in a responsible manner than some! [/quote] The same could probably be said for 18" redfish and 6 duck limits.  Hunters and fishermen as a group hate restrictions on what they can catch or kill.  Still doesn't make it right.  Time will tell if the new regs work better or if the old method of leaving it up to landowners/clubs worked better.     

I think about how much fun it is beating PAM.          ;D

[quote name="ndnsrock44" post="908527" timestamp="1289736076"] [quote author=ndnsrock44 link=topic=76075.msg908251#msg908251 date=1289707442] [quote author=mamajag link=topic=76075.msg908218#msg908218 date=1289706639] PNG fans are complainting about the Butch.......play at your stadium,the volume is too loud ! [/quote] I would love to play at the Reservation...evidently that's not an option.You talk big, but we are pumping $$$$$$ to BISD. I bet Carrol Thomas doesn't want us to play at home and keep those $$$$$$$. I couldn't care less about the music before a game, just the game itself. It was BH accouncers, so BH was probably playing the music. [/quote] Soulja..you need to re-read my post. I NEVER said that PNG was the only people that bring fans. I was responding to an ignorant post about us staying home and playing. I think The Butch is a awesome place to play and have never said anything to the contrary. We do pay a rental fee and BISD benefits from concessions vs having the game at PNG where they would make NO MONEY off the game....that was my point. It is funny to see how people jump to conclusions and take the ball and run with what someone said, especially when you throw a jab at PNG in the process. There are a lot of PNG fans, including me, who will be there Friday to support the Jags, so I am not sure what's up with the attitude towards us. Stop being so defensive...GEEZ! [/quote] From the Enterprise: No rental fee for “The Butch”November 11, 2010 at 1:09 pm by David Henry The Carrol A. “Butch” Thomas Educational Support Center is not charging a rental fee for playoff games that are played there. So far, the Support Center has landed three playoff games. Port Neches-Groves plays Barbers Hill at 7:30 p.m. Friday, West Brook plays Pasadena Dobie at 1 p.m. on Saturday and Livingston plays Dayton at 7:30 p.m. on Saturday. The money from the gate will be used to pay workers and officials and any remaining money will be split between the two schools, said Beaumont ISD athletic director Rodney Saveat. Saveat says not charging a rental fee is a fairly common practice. Lamar University officials did not say what the rental fee to use Provost Umphrey Stadium was

[quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="911533" timestamp="1290022568"] [quote author=bullets13 link=topic=61122.msg911519#msg911519 date=1290021629] if you let private land owners and leasers start defining what a "cull" is on their property, we'll start seeing people "cull" 1 1/2 year old 4 points again. [/quote] Over half the counties in Texas do just fine without restrictions.  How do you explain that?  If I applied your logic the bloodthirsty hunting masses would kill everything in sight unless restrained by the antler restrictions. [/quote] I think hunter density and deer populations provide the answer.  Most leases in west Texas(at least the ones I have been on), limit the number of hunters, and they already have large deer populations, so that you don't feel the need to shoot the first deer you see.    The east Texas leases seem to have at least 1 hunter for every hundred acres, all scrambling for a limited number of deer.  The pine forests just won't support the number of deer that the hill country, or south texas will. If people were willing to pay double the going lease price in east texas, and cut the number of hunters in half, the regs might not be necessary.  And frankly, i don't care if the put a 13" minimum on my Junction lease.  I'm not shooting those anyhow.

I guess that's where we disagree.  I don't think it has worked well for a long time. 

[quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="911350" timestamp="1290007470"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=61122.msg911336#msg911336 date=1290006381] [quote author=LumRaiderFan link=topic=61122.msg911331#msg911331 date=1290005913] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61122.msg911304#msg911304 date=1290004071] Then why do all of the AR counties all show a fairly quick improvement in their deer herds. It would be folly to ignore the results. Like it or not, this program works (and again, not a perfect solution). We will all benefit from it and soon. [/quote] I don't agree that you do see a fairly quick improvement in the herd.  Big bucks have been killed in..for example Sabine county for many years.  The antler restrictions did not cause this.  Lots of good clubs have managed there for years..that's the difference. Do this...pick up the phone and call TP &W and tell them you have several cull bucks < 13" on you property.  Ask them what are your management options.  I have called and they will agree there needs to be an option to take inferior bucks but right now there isn't. Give land owners/managers a [b]cull option[/b]...that's my simple point! ...one inferior buck that walks this year can lead to many in five years. It would be folly to ignore that point! [/quote] So, how are you going to define "cull"?    There is already a provision for non-forking horns.  What else do you want to put in the law? [/quote] Don't want anything else in the law...don't really want this one without cull exceptions.  Successfull clubs and landowners have managed their herd without interference very well because they have a vested interest in improving the deer quality whether it's for bigger bucks for members or more cash per deer for the landowner.  Keep the restriction for public land...fine by me...just let private landowners/clubs manage their herd. [/quote] You were the one that mentioned a "cull" option.  I just wondered what you meant.    Some people think a 2 year old 6 point is a cull.  Some people think deer that have larger horns on one side than the other are culls.    A "cull" exception, without a definition is pretty useless.

[quote name="LumRaiderFan" post="911331" timestamp="1290005913"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61122.msg911304#msg911304 date=1290004071] Then why do all of the AR counties all show a fairly quick improvement in their deer herds. It would be folly to ignore the results. Like it or not, this program works (and again, not a perfect solution). We will all benefit from it and soon. [/quote] I don't agree that you do see a fairly quick improvement in the herd.  Big bucks have been killed in..for example Sabine county for many years.  The antler restrictions did not cause this.  Lots of good clubs have managed there for years..that's the difference. Do this...pick up the phone and call TP &W and tell them you have several cull bucks < 13" on you property.  Ask them what are your management options.  I have called and they will agree there needs to be an option to take inferior bucks but right now there isn't. Give land owners/managers a cull option...that's my simple point! ...one inferior buck that walks this year can lead to many in five years. It would be folly to ignore that point! [/quote] So, how are you going to define "cull"?    There is already a provision for non-forking horns.  What else do you want to put in the law?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="911169" timestamp="1289968226"] I watched this game from start to finish. Westbury is not as good as they were last year, they miss the two bigmen they had last year. They do still have the great PG. West Brook was the more athletic team, but Westbury is the more skilled, basketball savy team. It paid dividends in the end. Also, West Brook [b]only suited up 8 players [/b] on varsity. Very unusual for a 5A basketball team. [/quote] Some still playing football.

[b]Kirbyville[/b]/Waco La Vega [b]Humble[/b]/Beaumont Central [b]Huffman[/b]/Navasota [b]Coldspring[/b]/Columbus [b]West Orange-Stark[/b]/Brookshire Royal Anahuac/[b]Crocket[/b]t [b]East Chambers[/b]/McGregor Newton/[b]Cameron[/b] Yoe Corrigan-Camden/[b]Frankl[/b]in [b]Lovelady[/b]/Big Sandy West Sabine/[b]Garris[/b]on [b]Evadale[/b]/D'Hanis [b]Beaumont West Brook[/b]/Pearland [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b]/Dickinson [b]Montgomery[/b]/Crosby [b]Dayton[/b]/Kingwood Park Willis/[b]Port Neches-G[/b]roves [b]LaMarque[/b]/Houston Yates [b]La Porte[/b]/Clear Creek [b]North Shore[/b]/Ft. Bend Hightower

I think MOST people who complain about AR simply want to be able to shoot any deer they see.  Even weird horned deer(culls) will usually get to 13" if given enough time.  Kill them after they mature a little.    I even like some of the weird racks.  Gives them a unique personality.

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[quote name="indnfan" post="908807" timestamp="1289760615"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=76029.msg908790#msg908790 date=1289759630] [quote author=indnfan link=topic=76029.msg908781#msg908781 date=1289759014] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=76029.msg908769#msg908769 date=1289757977] [quote author=ndn2016 link=topic=76029.msg908184#msg908184 date=1289705854] I know I'm getting to be a grouchy old man, but could we play some Kenny Chesney or something that most people can tolerate.  Rap - Really? - like the phone commercial says it [/quote] A matter of taste.  If they play any Kenny Chesney, it'll be me leaving.         8) [/quote] Like I said. I really dont care what type but the volume was kinda overkill. I know you cant please everyone but do you really have to play it that loud:???: [/quote] We will turn it down when PNG stops playing Cherokee 25 times per game.            :o [/quote] First Downs and Touchdown = a lot of Cherokee. You stop that and Cherokee stops. Plain and simple!!:D [/quote] I'm just kidding.  I like Cherokee.        ;)

[quote name="indnfan" post="908781" timestamp="1289759014"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=76029.msg908769#msg908769 date=1289757977] [quote author=ndn2016 link=topic=76029.msg908184#msg908184 date=1289705854] I know I'm getting to be a grouchy old man, but could we play some Kenny Chesney or something that most people can tolerate.  Rap - Really? - like the phone commercial says it [/quote] A matter of taste.  If they play any Kenny Chesney, it'll be me leaving.         8) [/quote] Like I said. I really dont care what type but the volume was kinda overkill. I know you cant please everyone but do you really have to play it that loud:???: [/quote] We will turn it down when PNG stops playing Cherokee 25 times per game.            :o