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[quote name="badndn" post="894470" timestamp="1288703087"] [quote author=JJWooten link=topic=75142.msg894012#msg894012 date=1288650006] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=75142.msg893971#msg893971 date=1288646655] Toughest non-conference home game on Dec 22: #179 Canisius - Griffs will miss F. Turner at PG slot, but have improved by 4-5 games every yr with this senior class -- 19 wins this yr? [/quote] I have literally NEVER heard of that school. [/quote] Thats funny, because they probably have a post that looks like this on their site: [quote author=coachacola link=topic=75142.msg890579#msg890579 date=1288398230] #243 Lamar - Backcourt trio A Miles, K Harris and C Harper and top-10 recruiting class should make the Cardinals dangerous this season. [/quote] I have literally NEVER heard of that school. And why are we scheduling bottom feeding DI schools llike Lamar anyway? ;D [/quote] What is the point of this ignorant post?  Shouldn't you be steam cleaning your letter jacket and combing your mullet?

[quote name="coachacola" post="892166" timestamp="1288481618"] Another early season opponent at the SMU tourney: #220 Portland St - No postseason carrot b/c of APR violations means this is a throwaway season for Tyler Geving's Vikings. [/quote] Who cares?

[quote name="JJWooten" post="891793" timestamp="1288461752"] #226 SE Louisiana - The Lions need srs T. Hutchin (11/1) and G. Dixon (8/1) to replace P. Sullivan (16/9/2) and D. Forest (11/2). [/quote] Forgive me, but who gives a crap about SE La?

[quote name="hipster" post="893036" timestamp="1288557765"] aawn just letting you know it is since not sense so lay off the raider about grammar lmao [/quote] I haven't given raider a hard time about grammar.  However, I do know the difference between since and sense.  If you want to have a spelling, grammar, word definition, or overall intelligence competition I am certainly game.  lmao.

[quote name="JJWooten" post="894012" timestamp="1288650006"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=75142.msg893971#msg893971 date=1288646655] Toughest non-conference home game on Dec 22: #179 Canisius - Griffs will miss F. Turner at PG slot, but have improved by 4-5 games every yr with this senior class -- 19 wins this yr? [/quote] I have literally NEVER heard of that school. [/quote] You've go to be kidding.

[quote name="coachacola" post="894799" timestamp="1288720755"] I think Woodard makes at around $135K and the assistants around $60K.  The OC and DC may make more than that.  I doubt we'll see Woodard and the other coaches getting big raises any time soon so unless Dodge wants a big time cut in pay he won't be coming to Lamar. [/quote] I thought Dodge was unemployed.  So, unless we would make him pay us for the right to coach here he wouldn't be taking a pay cut.

[quote name="coachacola" post="894378" timestamp="1288672092"] And in the other Lamar forum it's being reported that Doug Prewitt will start for Lamar. [/quote] Good!  Maybe they will even let him pass.  I can't believe how we ended the last game against UND just running the damn ball.  It would have been a perfect opportunity to let Prewitt get some real reps..instead we tell him to just go in and hand the ball off.  How idiotic.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="894384" timestamp="1288672755"] [Hidden Content] kinda cocky fellers... [/quote] Kinda?  I hope we beat the crap out of them!!!  They are a first year team talking like they are friggin Alabama.

[quote name="Raiders99LHS80" post="894005" timestamp="1288649764"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75277.msg893739#msg893739 date=1288632691] [quote author=1KatKiller link=topic=75277.msg893716#msg893716 date=1288631294] Because of the expectations being expressed. [/quote] 1kAtKiller, you made a great post earlier in this thread. My dream as a teenager was to be a coach. But, life had me join the military for several years. Then after enrolling at Lamar as a kinesiology major, I visited with my brother often as he was already in the coaching profession although he is younger. I seen how hard he worked. How many hours a day he put in and how many days a week he worked. Especially his work load during football and track as he was an assistant in both sports. So, I decided to change my major to nursing. I stated all the above to get to the point that only another coach has the right to judge another coach. People who aren't in the profession have no clue what it takes to be successful and sometimes as a coach you can do everything right and still lose. You won't see me posting anything negative about a coach at any level. Now, that doesn't mean I always agree with their actions.  ;D [/quote]This has to be one of the most rediculous posts i've read to date. are you seriously sitting there stating that no one has the right to question a coach unless they're a coach themselves? LOL, i'm not "in the profession", but i can bet you i've forgotten more about this game then you'll ever know about! And for katkiller, ask jim harbaugh, or jimmy johnson how long it takes to turn a program into a traditional winner, or nick saban, urban meyer, i guess i could go on, but you get the point. Set goals for your team, high ones and when the team has one to shoot for, you create teamwork, have your team working together for a common good. Don't settle for the same old generic "well it's our first year, i don't expect us to win". Those are nothing but excuses. And excuses are signs of weakness. [/quote] Wow, how enlightening!!!  You are brilliant!!  I think you could have taught Vince Lombardi a thing or two with your brilliant insight!!  I didn't realize that coaching was so simple.  Set high goals...i bet no coaches do that!!!  Utterly brilliant!!!  And excuses being signs of weakness?!!  Wow, how did you think of that.  Please great one, share some more of your tidbits so that we may all achieve your greatness!!!

[quote name="wouldsmith" post="893447" timestamp="1288612895"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75337.msg893313#msg893313 date=1288579024] [quote author=wouldsmith link=topic=75337.msg893187#msg893187 date=1288569419] Lamar football program will be Just as it was 20 years ago. [/quote] Sorry, don't agree for several reasons. One, being Lamar just spent about $30 million on the new athletic complex, the suites, press box, turf, scoreboard and renovating Provost Umphrey Stadium. Two, football is being 110% supported by the university administration and the athletic department. Three, this is our first year as a start-up program and we are all guilty of expecting too much too soon. Four, the students voted for the return of football by 78% and have a football fee added for each credit hour they are taking. Five, have you been to a home game yet? The tailgating and game day atmosphere has been great for every game and those spots were sold with a three year commitment. Now, within the next three years Lamar needs to be competing for the SLC championship. So give the coaching staff some time as LU has the best facilities in the conference. This is a major recruiting advantage. We will have the off season strength and conditioning program (Lamar has never had a strength and conditioning coach) and we have two coaches that is their job to get the returning players bigger, stronger and faster. Then add a couple recruiting classes to add depth and better athletes. It is way too early to compare this current squad and those 20 years ago. [/quote] They can spend as much as They want....its all hype.  Just wait and see what the attendance is next year or two.  Then remember my words.....it'll be just like 20 years ago...minus 30 million dollars.  Haha [/quote] Well the following schools are not in their first year and are having disappointing seasons, I think that their football programs are about to be cancelled: University of Texas  4-4 Colorado  3-5 Texas Tech  4-4 Kansas  2-6 Boston College 3-5 Duke 2-6 Wake Forest 2-6 Cincinatti  3-5 Memphis  1-7 Minn.  1-8 Tulane  3-5 Rice 2-6 Notre Dame 4-5 Akron  0-9 Byu  3-5 Colorado St  3-6 UNLV  1-7 Wyoming 2-7 New Mexico  0-8 Tennessee  2-6 Ole Miss  3-5 North Texas 2-6 Western Kentucky  1-7 Ark State  3-5 Nicholls State  2-6 SE La  2-6

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="894314" timestamp="1288666577"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75337.msg893689#msg893689 date=1288630278] [quote author=Sgt Rey link=topic=75337.msg893455#msg893455 date=1288613625] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=75337.msg893276#msg893276 date=1288577028] [quote author=Sgt Rey link=topic=75337.msg893251#msg893251 date=1288575437] [quote author=beechnut link=topic=75337.msg893142#msg893142 date=1288566253] [b]Gonna have to give Coach W some time and hit the road to find some good players[/b]. Not a coach or expert but have to give him some time. [/quote] I think we have plenty of talent in SETX...I would recruit here first...why not? [/quote] Except for anyone related to LHS99 you seen the team?..a bunch of setex kids [/quote] I assisted in recruiting Marines for a month, I made sure they wanted to be there and I made sure I wanted them there.  I can only assume it's very similar @ Lamar...maybe there are some players that were a disappointment from the area( I guess that's what you're getting at)...I would have to say, you can get wayyy more for your player locally.  You can research the attitude and player's down falls thru teachers, peers, little league coaches etc...it's kinda expensive to do that out of the area..IMO [/quote] Actually, recruiting local players is a bonus for Lamar as they can give them partial scholarships and spread out the scholarship limits. Now, I don't think we should recruit a kid just because he is a local player. But, if he is good enough to play at the FCS level I'm all for loading up on SE Texas kids because besides being able to spread out the scholarships they will put butts in the seats at Provost Umphrey. [/quote] Recruitin locally should also help keep attendance up.  Get all of those PNG, Nederland, Lumberton and Bridge City kids along with a some Beaumont boys. [/quote]

[quote name="Raiders99LHS80" post="891837" timestamp="1288465249"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=74891.msg891714#msg891714 date=1288455544] [quote author=Raiders99LHS80 link=topic=74891.msg891687#msg891687 date=1288453870] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=74891.msg891547#msg891547 date=1288444987] [quote author=Raiders99LHS80 link=topic=74891.msg891233#msg891233 date=1288410977] [quote author=time2time link=topic=74891.msg890741#msg890741 date=1288401658] "moot point" [/quote]sorry i know football not grammer. [/quote] Good Lord, how were you ever eligible to play? I believe you need 4 years of English in High School. [/quote]word of the day for bigred360... B-L-O-W-O-U-T!!! [/quote] Are you talking about Lumberton's teams before Coach Alvin Credeur? B-L-O-W-O-U-T was a common occurrence for the Raiders. [/quote]i'm an lhs alum, talk lamar or get off this thread. u wanna talk h.s. football get on that thread. [/quote] Sounds like someone hit a nerve.  or, are you the new board moderator?

[quote name="bigred360" post="893689" timestamp="1288630278"] [quote author=Sgt Rey link=topic=75337.msg893455#msg893455 date=1288613625] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=75337.msg893276#msg893276 date=1288577028] [quote author=Sgt Rey link=topic=75337.msg893251#msg893251 date=1288575437] [quote author=beechnut link=topic=75337.msg893142#msg893142 date=1288566253] [b]Gonna have to give Coach W some time and hit the road to find some good players[/b]. Not a coach or expert but have to give him some time. [/quote] I think we have plenty of talent in SETX...I would recruit here first...why not? [/quote] you seen the team?..a bunch of setex kids [/quote] I assisted in recruiting Marines for a month, I made sure they wanted to be there and I made sure I wanted them there.  I can only assume it's very similar @ Lamar...maybe there are some players that were a disappointment from the area( I guess that's what you're getting at)...I would have to say, you can get wayyy more for your player locally.  You can research the attitude and player's down falls thru teachers, peers, little league coaches etc...it's kinda expensive to do that out of the area..IMO [/quote] Actually, recruiting local players is a bonus for Lamar as they can give them partial scholarships and spread out the scholarship limits. Now, I don't think we should recruit a kid just because he is a local player. But, if he is good enough to play at the FCS level I'm all for loading up on SE Texas kids because besides being able to spread out the scholarships they will put butts in the seats at Provost Umphrey. [/quote] Recruitin locally should also help keep attendance up.  Get all of those PNG, Nederland, Lumberton and Bridge City kids along with a some Beaumont boys.

[quote name="JJWooten" post="893428" timestamp="1288597132"] South Alabama also played that schedule because they're games don't count as DI wins. It's hard to get a school to play you if you're not counting towards their DI win column total. It's different for Lamar when it comes to FCS games like McNeese, SHSU, and SFA because we recruit in that area. We want to be able to play the Cardinals and show the local kids how much better our schools are, yada yada yada. It's the same reason that all the FBS schools are lining up to play UTSA, who has never played a down of football, and it's because San Antonio is a recruiting hot bed. [/quote] So there weren't/aren't schools that play against South Alabama that would want to show kids they are better than them for recruiting purposes?  Weak argument

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="893202" timestamp="1288570791"] As I've told you before - by the method they are using in-conjunction with NCAA rules/regulations, South Alabama's "first year" is officially next year... want to compare next year's slate to this year's? Not sure about you guys - but playing two FBS teams (Mississippi State, NC State) plus a FBS-bound UTSA program, does not sound like a cupcake schedule... Okay, back to your regularly scheduled South Alabama smack! [/quote] What an idiotic argument.

[quote name="coachacola" post="892566" timestamp="1288497342"] #216 UL-Lafayette - Sam Houston's Bob Marlin takes over the helm for a program that needs an infusion. Gradnigo & Daigle lead the way. [/quote] That is a great hire for ULL.  Too bad we couldn't come up with a bunch of money to hire him.

[quote name="hipster" post="893518" timestamp="1288620097"] Why address a question like that to raider?  You are a reporter address woodard our his recruiting coordinator with that.  You and txwhatever just try to use ridicule and sarcasm to dodge the facts.  Probably the only time you put on a strap was to go  to the prom!  [/quote] He obviously did that because Hussey is a Lumberton boy.

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="891901" timestamp="1288468364"] [quote author=Raiders99LHS80 link=topic=75277.msg891883#msg891883 date=1288467678] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75277.msg891856#msg891856 date=1288466074] Bevil is the best we got but I hope he isn't the starting QB next season. [/quote]LU lays down again, no heart. and u can't coach that. 31-6 n.d. 3 min left [/quote] Oops.  Guess you watched it on the internet.  Still, I seriously doubt they laid down.  There is a big difference between laying down and just being outmanned. You are at the game in North Dakota?  heck no you aren't!  You have no idea if we laid down or not!!  You make so many idiotic statements it is ridiculous.  [/quote]

[quote name="Raiders99LHS80" post="891883" timestamp="1288467678"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75277.msg891856#msg891856 date=1288466074] Bevil is the best we got but I hope he isn't the starting QB next season. [/quote]LU lays down again, no heart. and u can't coach that. 31-6 n.d. 3 min left [/quote] You are at the game in North Dakota?  Hell no you aren't!  You have no idea if we laid down or not!!  You make so many idiotic statements it is ridiculous.

[quote name="bigred360" post="890073" timestamp="1288350394"] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=74891.msg889975#msg889975 date=1288318681] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=74891.msg889560#msg889560 date=1288279275] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=74891.msg889245#msg889245 date=1288228051] used to be, kid could go to tech arts and still play football...can a kid go  to LIT and play at Lamar? [/quote] Are you serious? No, LIT is a different institution from Lamar. Now, back before Lamar joined the TSUS and they separated the four colleges within the Lamar system a kid could major in one of the programs now offered at LIT because LIT and Lamar were one institution. [/quote] wouldnt have asked if i wasnt serious..didnt know the extent of connection or disconnet  between LIT & LU------- [u][b]I KNOW THEY USED TO[/b][/u]...thats why i asked [/quote] Man, I put out a fact and you get your panties in a knot! :D :D [/quote] You were being a pee-rick.

[quote name="JJWooten" post="890272" timestamp="1288371626"] I would almost put money on it that they say something about a Top 10 recruiting class. [/quote] Top 10, most talented ever, super exciting, best sense sliced bread, every player was recruited by Duke and North Carolina, blah blah blah...get our butts kicked by SHSU and SFA again; finish below .500, and start talking about how good we will be next year. I wonder if Pat Foster is still alive?  Bring back Pat!

[quote name="coachacola" post="889482" timestamp="1288273268"] It's time for rushthecourt.net's annual countdown of all 345 D1 basketball teams, from worst to best.  Alcorn State has the distinction of being # 345.  And of course the SLC already has some teams on the list along with a few of Lamar's opponents this year. #318 UT Pan Am - UTPA brings back most everyone from a 6-win team, but the Broncs showed promise w/ a defense better than most in GWC.  (Lamar plays UTPA Nov 23rd) #302 C. Arkansas - New coach Corliss Williamson has his hands full getting the Bears competitive again, but he returns seven lettermen. #299 Northwestern St - Losing two starters will make much improvement tough; Seniors D Baker, D Knight and W Pratt will need to step up. #286 McNeese St - With top 3 players returning, coach D Simmons hopes JuCo transfer M Konate adds the spark Cowboys need to compete. Shouldn't that be 7 wins for Lamar right there? Follow along here (it's updated every hour): [Hidden Content] [/quote] Not necessarily.  Where is Lamar?  344?

[quote name="HardHitter" post="884297" timestamp="1287800562"] If they would give the ball to logan or hussey inside the 5 we would have already scored a rushing td..... Well at least Hall can solve all our rushing problems single handly..... ;) [/quote] My point exactly.  Hall will have to score from our end of the field and will probably only get 10-12 carries knowing how our play calling is.

[quote name="bigred360" post="882236" timestamp="1287620726"] [quote author=TexasTerror link=topic=74741.msg882216#msg882216 date=1287619956] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=74741.msg882141#msg882141 date=1287616412]I'm just talking "if's" here but if Todd Dodge were to join the Lamar staff there would be 3 former UT Longhorns on the staff. 1. Coach Woodard. 2. Coach Brown. 3. Todd Dodge. Plus he could give Lamar a boost in recruiting the Metroplex. [/quote] Well, if he gave Lamar the same boost that he gave NT when it came to recruiting in the DFW Metroplex... some of the financially-strapped SLC institutions have a lot to be excited about! You really think he'd give any school a boost in the Metroplex? I guess his offense may be a bit exciting and have some reputation, but isn't that what Whitten brings to the table as well? [/quote] He is a great offensive coach TexasTerror. I'm not talking about him as the HC.  ::) You have something smart to say about everyone. Coach Dodge did not work out at UNT but he can talk circles around you regarding football. BTW, he can talk circles around a lot of people. Like you stated in a earlier post he just did not hire the right assistants. I promise you if you are a HS or JC recuit and you play offense you'll love playing for Todd Dodge. [/quote] I don't know, for a change, that Terrors comments were all that far off base.  Dodge wasn't exactly successful at UNT.

[quote name="sly0071" post="882286" timestamp="1287623879"] anyone hear about Whitten leaving the game before it was over last Saturday????  I personally didn't see it even though I stayed for the whole game, but I heard about it. [/quote] Hopefully he won't bother going to the North Dakota game at all.