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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1374500" timestamp="1360937565"] [quote author=Gucci link=topic=109270.msg1373917#msg1373917 date=1360803004] Im predicting Sealy, led by Ricky Seal Jones to play Yates in the. Regional Finals [/quote] Uh genius, Sealy cannot play Yates in Regional finals. Sealy is in Region IV. ::) [/quote] Now that's funny...  ;D

Good game. Congrats Central on back to back district championships... ;D

[quote name="James Mosley" post="1372421" timestamp="1360534480"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372413#msg1372413 date=1360531585] [quote author=James Mosley link=topic=109118.msg1372411#msg1372411 date=1360531231] Did I mention the need for 3,,,,,English scores 31! Can you guys take your toys and start a new topic. I really like keeping this one to Nederland wins!! Soulja you gonna buy me some popcorn and coke??? [/quote] English is really good! Actually I've stated to Soulja he's IMO their best player. But, he won't score 31. Central is too long and athletic. The Jags will make him take difficult shots. He will score some, just not 30. [/quote]Can't imagine how hard it is for Coach English to juggle being the head coach and dad. Just once I'd like to see English let loose the best shooter in the area just to see how he would light it up. Being the coach that he is he wouldn't do that and I understand and respect that totally, still I wonder just what that kid could do if they fed him the shot time and time again. 31 might just be cutting him short....Would be fun to see! [/quote] I told Soulja the same thing. He should be featured with everyone else as role players.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372428" timestamp="1360536214"] [quote author=James Mosley link=topic=109118.msg1372421#msg1372421 date=1360534480] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372413#msg1372413 date=1360531585] [quote author=James Mosley link=topic=109118.msg1372411#msg1372411 date=1360531231] Did I mention the need for 3,,,,,English scores 31! Can you guys take your toys and start a new topic. I really like keeping this one to Nederland wins!! Soulja you gonna buy me some popcorn and coke??? [/quote] English is really good! Actually I've stated to Soulja he's IMO their best player. But, he won't score 31. Central is too long and athletic. The Jags will make him take difficult shots. He will score some, just not 30. [/quote]Can't imagine how hard it is for Coach English to juggle being the head coach and dad. Just once I'd like to see English let loose the best shooter in the area just to see how he would light it up. Being the coach that he is he wouldn't do that and I understand and respect that totally, still I wonder just what that kid could do if they fed him the shot time and time again. 31 might just be cutting him short....Would be fun to see! [/quote]He scored 29 against a very good Silsbee team earlier this year, so 31 IS a possibility. I'd much rather English score 20 and see Lorimier have another big game like he did the other night. [/quote] I never said he didn't have the ability. I like that kid's game. I was only stating that in this match up with Central, he will be guarded by taller, and more athletic players who will force him to shoot over the top of them.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372409" timestamp="1360531120"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372408#msg1372408 date=1360530643] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372404#msg1372404 date=1360529891] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372403#msg1372403 date=1360529663] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372400#msg1372400 date=1360529329] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372396#msg1372396 date=1360528195] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372395#msg1372395 date=1360527099] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372394#msg1372394 date=1360526673] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372393#msg1372393 date=1360526540] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372392#msg1372392 date=1360526434] [quote author=baddog link=topic=109118.msg1372331#msg1372331 date=1360512788] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School? [/quote]The PA kid has no choice. If he lives in PAISD, he goes to PAISD. If he lives in NISD, he goes there. Huge difference. [/quote] So no PA eighth grader ever transferred to NISD for highschool? [/quote]I never said that. However, in order to do so, one must show proof of living within the boundaries of NISD. One cannot live within PAISD and choose to attend NISD. There is no choice of which school they wish to attend as it is in Beaumont. [/quote] Well "legally" in Beaumont you don't get to choose either. You have to live in the high school's zone or qualify for the high school's magnet program. And yes "proof" is required. [/quote]I thought BISD had open enrollment? According to their website: BEAUMONT ISD STUDENT TRANSFER NOTIFICATION BEAUMONT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF STUDENT SERVICES 3395 HARRISON AVE.  77706 PHONE 617-5109 All parents/guardians of students attending schools in B.I.S.D. are afforded the opportunity to request transfer to the school of their choice. [/quote] And that's not the same as a kid transferring into NISD? [/quote]Which kid transferred to Nederland? [/quote] I'm not stating a specific kid. I'm talking about the statements of BISD being a open enrollment district where the kids get to choose what high school they want to go to. There are rules in place that have to be followed. Yes you can request a transfer but, the enrollment rules in BISD doesn't give any Beaumont high school an athletic advantage like some on here imply. [/quote]Everyone has an opinion on whether or not there is an advantage. That's an entire different topic, and that is not what we are discussing here. I answered your question on how the rules in BISD are different in NISD. You seemed to think they were equal, while clearly they are not. BISD has open enrollment while NISD does not have that luxury. [/quote] How is it open enrollment if the student has to request a transfer?

[quote name="James Mosley" post="1372411" timestamp="1360531231"] Did I mention the need for 3,,,,,English scores 31! Can you guys take your toys and start a new topic. I really like keeping this one to Nederland wins!! Soulja you gonna buy me some popcorn and coke??? [/quote] English is really good! Actually I've stated to Soulja he's IMO their best player. But, he won't score 31. Central is too long and athletic. The Jags will make him take difficult shots. He will score some, just not 30.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372404" timestamp="1360529891"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372403#msg1372403 date=1360529663] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372400#msg1372400 date=1360529329] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372396#msg1372396 date=1360528195] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372395#msg1372395 date=1360527099] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372394#msg1372394 date=1360526673] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372393#msg1372393 date=1360526540] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372392#msg1372392 date=1360526434] [quote author=baddog link=topic=109118.msg1372331#msg1372331 date=1360512788] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School? [/quote]The PA kid has no choice. If he lives in PAISD, he goes to PAISD. If he lives in NISD, he goes there. Huge difference. [/quote] So no PA eighth grader ever transferred to NISD for highschool? [/quote]I never said that. However, in order to do so, one must show proof of living within the boundaries of NISD. One cannot live within PAISD and choose to attend NISD. There is no choice of which school they wish to attend as it is in Beaumont. [/quote] Well "legally" in Beaumont you don't get to choose either. You have to live in the high school's zone or qualify for the high school's magnet program. And yes "proof" is required. [/quote]I thought BISD had open enrollment? According to their website: BEAUMONT ISD STUDENT TRANSFER NOTIFICATION BEAUMONT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF STUDENT SERVICES 3395 HARRISON AVE.  77706 PHONE 617-5109 All parents/guardians of students attending schools in B.I.S.D. are afforded the opportunity to request transfer to the school of their choice. [/quote] And that's not the same as a kid transferring into NISD? [/quote]Which kid transferred to Nederland? [/quote] I'm not stating a specific kid. I'm talking about the statements of BISD being a open enrollment district where the kids get to choose what high school they want to go to. There are rules in place that have to be followed. Yes you can request a transfer but, the enrollment rules in BISD doesn't give any Beaumont high school an athletic advantage like some on here imply.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372400" timestamp="1360529329"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372396#msg1372396 date=1360528195] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372395#msg1372395 date=1360527099] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372394#msg1372394 date=1360526673] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372393#msg1372393 date=1360526540] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372392#msg1372392 date=1360526434] [quote author=baddog link=topic=109118.msg1372331#msg1372331 date=1360512788] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School? [/quote]The PA kid has no choice. If he lives in PAISD, he goes to PAISD. If he lives in NISD, he goes there. Huge difference. [/quote] So no PA eighth grader ever transferred to NISD for highschool? [/quote]I never said that. However, in order to do so, one must show proof of living within the boundaries of NISD. One cannot live within PAISD and choose to attend NISD. There is no choice of which school they wish to attend as it is in Beaumont. [/quote] Well "legally" in Beaumont you don't get to choose either. You have to live in the high school's zone or qualify for the high school's magnet program. And yes "proof" is required. [/quote]I thought BISD had open enrollment? According to their website: BEAUMONT ISD STUDENT TRANSFER NOTIFICATION BEAUMONT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF STUDENT SERVICES 3395 HARRISON AVE.  77706 PHONE 617-5109 All parents/guardians of students attending schools in B.I.S.D. are afforded the opportunity to request transfer to the school of their choice. [/quote] And that's not the same as a kid transferring into NISD?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372395" timestamp="1360527099"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372394#msg1372394 date=1360526673] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109118.msg1372393#msg1372393 date=1360526540] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372392#msg1372392 date=1360526434] [quote author=baddog link=topic=109118.msg1372331#msg1372331 date=1360512788] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School? [/quote]The PA kid has no choice. If he lives in PAISD, he goes to PAISD. If he lives in NISD, he goes there. Huge difference. [/quote] So no PA eighth grader ever transferred to NISD for highschool? [/quote]I never said that. However, in order to do so, one must show proof of living within the boundaries of NISD. One cannot live within PAISD and choose to attend NISD. There is no choice of which school they wish to attend as it is in Beaumont. [/quote] Well "legally" in Beaumont you don't get to choose either. You have to live in the high school's zone or qualify for the high school's magnet program. And yes "proof" is required.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1372393" timestamp="1360526540"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=109118.msg1372392#msg1372392 date=1360526434] [quote author=baddog link=topic=109118.msg1372331#msg1372331 date=1360512788] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School? [/quote]The PA kid has no choice. If he lives in PAISD, he goes to PAISD. If he lives in NISD, he goes there. Huge difference. [/quote] So no PA eighth grader ever transferred to NISD for highschool?

[quote name="baddog" post="1372331" timestamp="1360512788"] All the more proof why enrollment numbers alone should not determine the classification of magnet schools. When you can maneuver players from an entire city with enrollment enough for 3 high schools, playing against 4a schools seems a bit slanted now doesn't it? [/quote] What's the difference between a Beaumont eighth grader choosing to go to Ozen or Central and a Port Arthur eighth grader choosing to go to Nederland High School?

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1372046" timestamp="1360435544"] [quote author=OctFeb link=topic=108809.msg1372044#msg1372044 date=1360435066] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108809.msg1372042#msg1372042 date=1360434202] [quote author=RaiderGirl92 link=topic=108809.msg1371676#msg1371676 date=1360364948] 1.Nederland [b]2.LUMBERTON[/b] 3PNG 4.Vidor 5.Ozen 6.LCM 7.Livingston 8.Central I hope my boys get it going in 2013. Everyone isn't thinking much of them so it's those RAIDERS time :) [/quote] Somebody pinch her so she wakes up and Lumberton is back t the bottom looking up at everyone... Lol  ;D [/quote] awww that wasn't nice.... [b]just for that Lumber ton is gonna beat the snot out of your team if they play... who's your team anyway?[/b] [/quote] West Brook, I mean Weak Brooke. That would be a close game.  ;) [/quote] Lol, good one scooter! Which one of your many teams will do well next season?  ;D

[quote name="RaiderGirl92" post="1371676" timestamp="1360364948"] 1.Nederland [b]2.LUMBERTON[/b] 3PNG 4.Vidor 5.Ozen 6.LCM 7.Livingston 8.Central I hope my boys get it going in 2013. Everyone isn't thinking much of them so it's those RAIDERS time :) [/quote] Somebody pinch her so she wakes up and Lumberton is back t the bottom looking up at everyone... Lol  ;D

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1371044" timestamp="1360264216"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371041#msg1371041 date=1360264062] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371038#msg1371038 date=1360263712] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371009#msg1371009 date=1360260960] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program [/quote] Name another game changer on Ozen's roster other than Jordan Hunter. Yes the Panthers have some good hard working players but, one game changer! [/quote]Ummmm does Jacobi Jones ring a bell? [/quote] Lol...

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1371040" timestamp="1360264025"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371037#msg1371037 date=1360263565] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Well according to you Ozen had a lot of failed seasons. I don't think Coach Boutte made it to Austin every year he coached at Ozen. And, I don't see how you have those views being a former Ozen football player, when you guys have only made it out of the second round of the playoffs twice in the schools history. [/quote]Of course Ozen isn't going to win state every year but that was the EXPECTATION yeoj now the expectation at Ozen is to win the district title :-\ that used to be a forgone conclusion...and its funny that you try and down talk ozen football team but when I was playing you used to be at all of our practices yeah i know who you are JOEY [/quote] Now that's funny! You have the wrong Joey. Cause anybody that knows me, knows that's some bullshit. Lol

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1371038" timestamp="1360263712"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371009#msg1371009 date=1360260960] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program [/quote] Name another game changer on Ozen's roster other than Jordan Hunter. Yes the Panthers have some good hard working players but, one game changer!

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1371007" timestamp="1360260752"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Well according to you Ozen had a lot of failed seasons. I don't think Coach Boutte made it to Austin every year he coached at Ozen. And, I don't see how you have those views being a former Ozen football player, when you guys have only made it out of the second round of the playoffs twice in the schools history.

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1370880" timestamp="1360210189"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1370879#msg1370879 date=1360209995] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote][quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote]So....there is one, maybe two teams in the region ahead of Central, yet they have no chance? Come on man! Apparently you put all of your stock in state polls. The #1 team in the state the last 2 years have NOT win the title. Two years ago, a team who finished /NS in their district won the region and made it to the state finals! Narrow minded you are! ;) [/quote]And when was the last time an area 4A team went to state hhmmmmm i'll wait [/quote] Stop comparing Boutte to Saveat. Boutte was a seasoned head coach and proven winner when he got to Ozen. Saveat is a relatively new head basketball coach.

[quote name="ozensfinest" post="1370869" timestamp="1360205580"] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] This has to be one of the more ignorant post I have ever read! Have you even seen West Brook and Central play this season? It's arguable that Ozen has the least talented roster of the three schools. And Dove this isn't a shot at your son cause he's a monster on the court.

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1370818" timestamp="1360189526"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1370817#msg1370817 date=1360189088] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108974.msg1370802#msg1370802 date=1360187641] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108974.msg1370797#msg1370797 date=1360187340] And Nederland fighting for 3rd place now, right? [/quote] Incorrect........Fighting for a 3 way tie for 1st.  ;) I have a question Dove? Would you rather see Nederland beat Central and have a 3 way tie for 1st? Or would you rather them lose and Ozen take second? [/quote] Would the banner on your post read tri-district champs or would you guys claim the whole title like y'all are doing for last year? [/quote] No.... I am pretty sure Coach English would want to play for it....Just as he did last year. [/quote] So the game you are referring to last year wasn't for playoff seeding?

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1370802" timestamp="1360187641"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108974.msg1370797#msg1370797 date=1360187340] And Nederland fighting for 3rd place now, right? [/quote] Incorrect........Fighting for a 3 way tie for 1st.  ;) I have a question Dove? Would you rather see Nederland beat Central and have a 3 way tie for 1st? Or would you rather them lose and Ozen take second? [/quote] Would the banner on your post read tri-district champs or would you guys claim the whole title like y'all are doing for last year?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1370622" timestamp="1360166732"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1370615#msg1370615 date=1360166006] [quote author=Bulldog10 link=topic=108974.msg1370359#msg1370359 date=1360118739] That why I couldn'tmake it.... Nederland always plays 8 on 5 there [/quote] Just like when teams play 8 on 5 in Nederland. [/quote]The refs in both meetings were from the College Station chapter. So if you are insinuating home town cooking, then fish elsewhere. 2 of the refs officiating both games. The 3rd ref mentioned from last night did everything in his power to enable an advantage for the Panthers. If you weren't there, then you wouldn't understand. Ozen fans sitting near the Ned fans were laughing about his calls bc they were so blatantly obvious. obvious. [/quote] I'm not insinuating anything. I'm saying that I have witnessed "home cooking" for Nederland in a home basketball game where the Refs did everything in their power to enable an advantage for the Bulldogs.

[quote name="Bulldog10" post="1370359" timestamp="1360118739"] That why I couldn'tmake it.... Nederland always plays 8 on 5 there [/quote] Just like when teams play 8 on 5 in Nederland.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1369486" timestamp="1359867591"] Maybe y'all are remembering something I'm not but I just can't see how y'all are picking Livingston to do anything without chevoski. I just don't see it. [/quote] Same thing could be said about Vidor and Quirante. Montana was the heart and soul of Vidor on offense and defense.

20-4A is Nederland and everybody else. 2nd through 4th is really a toss up out of all the teams left. If I had to pick I'd give the edge to the Beaumont schools on athletic ability and PNG on coaching ability. 1. Nederland 2. Ozen 3. PNG 4. Central 5. Vidor 6. Livingston 7. LCM 8. Lumberton