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I believe we are playing Hamshire Fannett again, and Jasper in non district. Not sure who else, but anybody in the current 22-5A would be good with me.

We have a special purple dumpster for him.

Very true. I’m not a huge fan of 4 teams making playoffs, but there are still times when 4 seeds beat 1 seeds so it makes a little sense. In the end the teams that are better are gonna go further regardless of how many teams are in it

Thanks

Any idea what kind of numbers Carthage has?

Big sigh of relief from Raider Nation today. Gonna miss 22-5A. They have the most representation on this site and provide most of the conversation, but I’ll still keep up with those teams.

Hello 4A! So that puts Silsbee in division 2 right? WOS, Silsbee and Jasper. What a district that’s gonna be!!

Lol don’t hold your breath on that!

Waiting on the UIL is like waiting on a woman...

Your right in everything you said. The only place I’ll dosagree with is when you say I don’t understand, because I do. But if you bring Crosby up as an example, you’ll notice according to the Team history page that they had a dominant year in 2009, other than that over the past decade they didn’t start having those dominant seasons where they only lost a couple of games until 2013 thru now. 2010 they had a losing record, 2011 barely over .500, same with 2008. So, if you look at their history, they started having some succes getting things turned around, hit some bumps along the rode but kept grinding, then ended up where they are now and have been for a few years. Which is exactly what I hope for us to do in Lumberton on that same progression. So, when I say I’m happy with where Lumberton is i don’t mean that I’m settling for mediocre, I just mean that I understand where we are at this point and time, and while I acknowledge that the goal is to be better I still choose to see that the tide is changing.

I think also what your trying to get at is the number of people from that Navasota team who made first Team, correct?

No doubt in my mind that tyler deserved every recognition that he received. But it was quite pleasant beating him and Boyd pretty handily!

Stat, my point is there has to be steps taken. Lumberton is NOT PNG or Ned. Nobody expected Babin to take over and BAM now we are powerhouses. He has built this program to the point to where we are averaging a .500 record each season. Now I think it would be safe to say that anything less than that could be deemed unacceptable especially if we were to move to 4A. Now we gotta tip the iceberg and start establishing winning records each year. Do that for maybe 2 or 3 years, then raise the bar to a DC. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and rebuilding a place like Lumberton for football dang sure ain’t gonna happen overnight.

I guess the real question is, if you consider our numbers and talent level compared to our district, should we have done better than .500? I understand that you expect a coach to win, and if Babin continues to build our program up and creates a winners mentality then he will be held accountable to that, but putting a coach in Lumberton and expecting them to make playoffs each year and be beating teams like PAM, Central, PNG, and Nederland is setting somebody up for failure.

You are all over Silsbee today huh?

PAM fans accuse him of sub par coaching. As you said, I don’t have a clue how he coaches aside from the two games I’ve watched them play this year. So in that statement I’m purely going off of the opinions of PAM fans. As far as Coach Babin goes, his first year he took over he went 7-4 and made the playoffs for the first time since 2008 and only the 3rd time in the history of our school. Last year his record was 3-7 and this year 4-5. Overall in district play he is 14-14 in 22-5A. One of those losses last year to Livingston was a horrible loss that shouldn’t have happened but we lost nonetheless. Here’s some key losses that we were very close to winning though: central: 2 years ago Central beat us on a last second jump ball (in a year when they had one of the top running backs in the nation), last year we blew a two point conversion that could have easily been converted to lose to Central again by 1 point. This year we give up a fumble for a td, and then punt the ball maybe 5 yards giving Central the ball at our own 20 yard line setting them up for a field goal. Other than that they scored 1 offensive td and we lose by I think 9 points? Vidor: last year we got killed by Vidor due to lack of offensive production (our fault). This year we were back and forth, we’re driving down the field to potentially score and fumbled which was returned for a td. Vidor then does an onside kick and recovers, and from there it was downhill. Even Vidor posters were saying that that game was closer than the score shows. My point to all of that is this: Lumberton is not “putting up with Babin”!! We are actually quite pleased with him. He has taken a team with virtually no talent compared to the district we are in and has won more games than we probably should have, and have been very close to winning 4 more district games that were within our reach. I think it’s funny how people talk about how untalented Lumberton is, but then completely ignore the fact that we are actually staying fairly competitive besides a couple games here and there (one this year in particular against one of the best qbs we will ever face), coach Babin is sitting at .500 in district. That may not be acceptable to some schools around here, but for Lumberton that’s moving in the right direction. Nobody could have expected him to take a historically bad team and start immediately producing playoff teams. To compare Lumberton/Bridge City coaches, who coach with practically no talent, to a coach at PAM with all the talent in the world is crazy!

He’s taken what is usually an 0-10 Team or 1-9 and has actually started winning games. And been competitive in most district games if your actually there to watch. It’s called progress.

I think the claims of making a deep playoff run may be a little far fetched. I do believe Babin will have a good shot to make something happen and if he does I’ll enjoy the ride for sure. I just think it’s a little too early to start making those assumptions. It will be exciting to find out what happens. Good chance to help the players morale and allow Babin to keep building upon what we have going. Right now we need to focus on district championships and making playoffs consistently. Then the next step is making deep runs.

Lol doesn’t he have another son coming up sometime?

Who? Because Babin isn’t going anywhere

We would compete with Silsbee too. We’ve beat them in the past in actual games. Im not gonna jump on here and promise deep playoff runs, but to say we would struggle to even make the playoffs is wrong.

Just for clarification, when you say “around here” are you referring to teams that would be in our potential district, or teams we would eventually face in the playoffs?

4A

That was one of their first games of the year. I can honestly say after seeing them play Silsbee seems like they got all that taken care of

I trust you that Temple wasn’t better. I was just trying to make the argument that a team can’t always be judged by how far they advance. On a side note, how much longer will PAM put up with subpar coaching? Maybe this year we will see a change?