I have yet to see a post where anyone has talked crap on Shug. At least I know I never have. In fact I have spoken very highly of the kid. I agree with most of what you and Strat are stating. What I disagree with is making the statement that the better team won. Pn was the better team that night. If they play PAM 10 times, PAM would win 7-8 times. The better team lost that night. Happens often.