Rez
-
Posts
2,301 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
3
Posts posted by Rez
-
-
1 hour ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:
Word on the street TD is occupied in more ways than one, read on smoaky he's lined up for the Lucas Lovejoy gig, I'll believe it when I see it, they do have a board meeting tonight. 🤷🏾♂️ Seems like he's a busy guy these days. @Matthew328
To coach or to select a coach?
-
2 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
If TD is high I can only wonder what the price of 3 consultants will be.
The other guys aren’t in such high demand, probably aren’t as expensive. And they’re true Nederland fans — They might be doing it for free.
-
33 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
Who said it was high?
It would have to be high, otherwise every school in the state would be getting TD to help get them a coach. Unless he’s only saying yes to a few schools, money is the only barrier. He doesn’t want to spend all of his time doing coach selection, and it’s not every school that can afford it.
-
2 hours ago, A BUC 77 said:
Big Ned, when they get back in their prime will be the fast paced, complicated spread offense they used to be. Write it down son.
My observation was that Neumann didn’t use a complicated offense. In fact, I would argue that the defining theme of the six-year MCM streak was that Nederland ran a far more fundamentals-based, simple scheme on defense and offense than PNG, which enabled the team to achieve precision and confidence, especially in do-or-die situations. I think that tended to be the difference in those close games. So many games in that era came down to one or two plays where Nederland executed and PNG didn’t.
One of the big differences between PNG now and PNG then is the commitment to mastering a few simple plays and expanding from that only as mastery is achieved, versus the razzle dazzle of the Faircloth era. I’ve heard PNG under Joseph be compared to Katy due to the similarity in the offense and the obvious family connection, but there’s also a similarity between Nederland under Neuman and PNG under Joseph. There’s at least a philosophical link between PNG now and Nederland under Neumann, which is they’re both good at just doing the few plays they’ve mastered right, and building from there. Nederland doesn’t need to blow up the printers with new or more complex plays.
-
-
-
59 minutes ago, Bigdog said:
So close to where they were this year? I mean like I said it’s not like the program is bottomed out.
I don’t think the bottom has fallen out. The biggest danger for Nederland has been being mediocre and/or bad for so long that it becomes the standard. But, looking at this year, if Nederland goes from 2023 to being able to get past the first round (as compared to a 56-6 beat down), we’re talking a massive improvement. Not even close to this year, even if the on-paper record is similar.
-
14 hours ago, NHS409 said:
True statements, but Nederland aren't really missing any kids that can truly help, maybe two or three that won't make a huge difference in outcomes of the game. There may be some Dads in here who kids aren't playing that feel a type of way, but the talent pool just isn't there. They're some Basketball players that could help right away, but they only play Basketball, which I hear is encouraged by the Head BB Coach! The AD will have to change that and emphasize to ALL coaches that he wants his athletic program having multi-sport athletes as a requirement. Something Barrow didn't really harp on. I do believe a 180 degree change in culture, and getting out of the prehistoric ways of athletics is concerned can/will change things. But it will take about 4-5 years or maybe longer for a long run in the playoffs.
I don’t think it will take 4-5 years. I’m thinking 2-3 or 3-4 at most, and it could be faster. I don’t think it will be as quick a turnaround as PNG (so, not a one-year transformation) for all the reasons I’ve said. It depends on who they hire. A great coach can defeat all our expectations. I won’t be surprised if Nederland finishes in 3rd in district next year and makes it to at least the second round.
-
-
18 minutes ago, Reagan said:
Things at PNG wasn't as bad as they were towards the end at Nederland. PNG probably had the good players from the halls that were already playing when the new coach got there. Kids quit and never came out because how bad Nederland had become. Get the right coach and start winning and you'll see how many kids you'll have available.
Right - this is something I think needs to be underlined. Joseph inherited a healthy program with kids who had won several key games and had had a deep-ish playoff run. He didn’t have to “rebuild” so much as “redirect.” It sounds like Nederland will need to do something closer to a true rebuild.
That’s going to be key in how people evaluate the new guy. If the standard is “do exactly what png did and go straight to state,” that’s probably not going to work, because Faircloth left PNG in a state that is ahead of schedule relative to where Nederland is.
But, I don’t think we’re talking a several year rebuild. I think Nederland just needs to get kids back , get more kids in, hit the weight room better and structure themselves to go toe-to-toe with the power and conditioning of elite programs. They aren’t far off - If Nederland had 1% improvements across every category of improvement, they become an entirely different team.
A lot of Nedeand’s woes amount to just being left behind, not so much getting worse . The last two years, Barrow would probably have gone at least 1-1 against PNG if Faircloth had stayed the coach, because Faircloth built his teams the way Barrow does - Poor conditioning, low strength training, no attention to defense, and just hope you win by two points in a shootout. Joseph doesn’t do that, and he showed that there‘a a recipe for the mid county schools to compete at the highest level. Nederland can do it too, but given the current state of the program it might take a year or two to really see the results. But it could also be immediate, as we’ve seen.
-
21 hours ago, outanup said:
My biggest question. Is it true participation is as down as advertised? Do we have a bunch of kids not participating because of the coaching staff? Can someone answer this?
With no data, my assumption is participation is down. This is based on anecdotes from Nederland people who at least claim to be aware of kids who might otherwise be playing who are walking the halls instead. And, it seems to follow that if a program isn’t doing well there’s at least a few who walk away. Participation goes up with success. PNG had at least one key player come back between Joseph’s first and second years. That might just be a coincidence (unrelated to the success in Year 1). Also, just given Nederland’s history of having good players, I assume those people still exist even if they aren’t on the team. The only other explanation would be that Nederland just doesn’t have good players right now, which I refuse to believe, and I strongly suspect a new coach will prove me right.
-
-
7 minutes ago, A BUC 77 said:
I definitely think it sped it up. You know. keeping up with the Jones.
Right. It certainly served to emphasize the difference in where the programs were. It’s one thing to have a down era; it’s another thing entirely to have your rival win state while you’re struggling. Like, if PNG and Nederland had both been 2-8 the last two seasons, they’re both probably eventually looking for new coaches, but it doesn’t become such a focus on one school’s success or failure.
Regardless, I have trouble believing Nederland doesn’t right the ship sooner than anyone thinks.
-
3 hours ago, 1989NDN said:
Did NISD hire Todd Dodge to recommend a candidate, is TD recommending someone as a freebie, or will NISD conduct the search and make the hire with its own hiring committee and no input from TD?
Amazing that the image below inside of AT&T, two years in a row, will force a resignation in NISD.
I think PNg’s success was mostly symbolic in its effect on Nederland’s choices. The Nederland coaching staff failed on their own - If you changed nothing about PnG over the last two years and Nederland was posting strong 9 to 10 win seasons, they would still have their coach.
-
29 minutes ago, outanup said:
Absolutely, just seems the process has been going on longer than we all know....Hearing good things and hoping for the best. Pretty sure this has divided the status quo of the community, which is to be expected. Also think the Sup has his feet to the fire or he wouldn't have made this move.
My guess (hope) is Barrow and the Super have been talking about this for a few weeks. Everyone sees the writing on the wall, most of all those two. If so, it could mean steps were quietly being taken in the background to identify solid candidates, beginning before the announcement.
-
-
I wish PNG would schedule like this. It’s not a golden bullet, and it only really helps you go deep in the playoffs if your team is already good enough to build from the butt-whoopings. But if we could schedule something like Summer Creek/PAM, North Shore, and Astascosita, we’d really help ourselves out. We’d likely start 0-3, or 1-2, but who cares? It’s about getting ready for the playoffs. And if we could make the travel work, I’d love a matchup with College Station or Aledo.
-
-
38 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:
Taso and UIL response
Fitch explained, "TASO has a very rigorous Conflict of Interest (COI) Policy."
"Simply living within a school's attendance zone in itself is not considered a conflict. Imagine if every official living in the DISD attendance zone was excluded from officiating any DISD game," Fitch wrote.
"This would significantly dilute the pool of very qualified officials. After our inquiries, we have determined that the Line Judge has not violated any of the items in the TASO COI (Conflict of Interest) policy," Fitch noted.
University Interscholastic League Athletic Director Ray Zepeda responded to Elizalde in a separate letter.
"It would be impossible to preclude someone from officiating a game for a school simply because they live in that city or town," Zepeda said.
"For example, officials that live in the city of Dallas called four out of the five rounds of SOC's playoff contests prior to the 2023 state championship game," Zepeda noted.
"In conclusion, the game between Dallas South Oak Cliff and Port Neches-Groves was a very well played, well coached, competitive game that featured two very storied programs in Texas high school football," Zepeda said.
This outlines how incredibly stupid the grievance was. DISD didn’t file grievances about the Dallas-resident referees that reffed 4 of their 5 playoff games on the way to state. But suddenly they get a ref that isn’t from Dallas and it’s the end of the world.
And, it makes clear what a lot of us already assumed, which was that South Oak Cliff had all the information needed provided to them in advance. This was just a pitiful attempt to gripe about losing.
-
25 minutes ago, Old Ape said:
Nederland is a better than job than alot of other jobs in that area because it is 5A D2. I am not disrespecting PNG with this statement but you aint running into Desoto, Carthage, Silsbee, Jasper, Aledo in that division.
PNG hasn’t lost to Jasper or Silsbee in years. DeSoto, Carthage, and Aledo are a different story. But I’m confident we would have beaten Carthage last year.
-
16 minutes ago, Old Ape said:
1 and zero. PNG has 2 since he got out of yalls division though!!!
Do yall like watching PNG waltz into State game??
Three appearances and one victory in 48 years, after taking massive steps forward in training, condition, and coaching, and only following years of getting donkey stomped by better teams , and we finally become one of those better teams and now it’s “waltzing”?
- CS. and grayhair777
-
1
-
1
-
1 hour ago, jake94 said:
Ahhh. I think he was talking about Prieto at Crosby. I’m not sure if Nederland would be an upgrade over Lake Worth or not, I’m not familiar with that program.
Westerberg would be good, regardless, except we’ve already seen his ceiling at a school like Nederland. He improved BH, but that meant bringing them from first round exits to third round. Prieto would be much better, I think.
-
8 minutes ago, jake94 said:
I don’t think we can afford Westerberg!
If we’re talking Westerberg, he only beat PNG twice (he was 2-2 all time against us). We beat BH in 2021 (Westerberg wasn’t there). BH won by 5 in 2019. The only decisive win was in 2020 (54-28).
-
11 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:
I was told he always wanted to
coach for Big Ned
I guarantee you wouldn’t see any more missed tackles
Dallas ISD considering filing a grievance over PNG win
in High School Football
Posted
Yep - PNG has to rely on coaching up the boys we have, and SOC openly rebuilds like they’re in the ncaa. They had no pass rush against PNG last year - If we face them next year, they’ll have an all new team tailor made to deal with us. It’s ridiculous. And , if they win we’ll all stand there and clap and pretend there was anything organic about their team. If we win, they’ll file grievances and try to put asterisks and insinuations on the victory.
I’m not saying they’re breaking the rules by all these transfers. They’re a magnet school and PnG isn’t, etc. But the idea that all the schools don’t put their teams together under the same rules challenges the idea of high school sports altogether.
.