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On 6/12/2023 at 11:30 AM, AledoAlumni said:

How does the excitement and/or expectations compare to last year at this time? 

I’m excited. It’s sort of a “prove it” year in some ways. Was last year just a combination of great players, good coaching, and luck, or is there a proven, winning system being installed at PNG? I think we have an excellent coach, and it seems to me that the conditioning and mentality is better than it’s been in at least 30 years. 

On 6/22/2016 at 5:31 AM, Hagar said:

Only have one.

Vidor vs Nederland 

Sorry, the devil made me do it.

You’re going to hell 

46 minutes ago, spidersal said:

I do not know if any girls teams made the playoffs, however none of the major boys programs made it. When Neumann was there the athletes were hungry for success, now I am not so sure

I do know from watching football the past 2 seasons, there is not a lot of talent and the coaching at every position is lacking.

This past season was probably the most disappointing season in football that I have seen in Nederland in 20 to 30 years.

IMO, as I watched them, they looked like an HISD program. They were soundly beaten in just about every game and honestly appeared to have no desire to win. The prime example for me to say this is the way they got beat by the annual doormat SF

They balled out against png. Rain helped them, but they brought it all game. 

1 hour ago, navydawg31 said:

A known Crosby fan on Twitter said administration ran another one off… 

What does that mean? Not enough money? Dumb policies? 

On 4/11/2023 at 9:25 AM, RidinTheRange said:

Oh, I'm sorry.  I didn't know you had spoken to every single LH fan.  Thanks for clearing it up.

 

It is also true that fans know the result of the game before they're played.

Hate to have to be the one that explains to you how “opinions” work, but here goes: I saw postings from *some* Liberty Hill fans who stated emphatically that PNG would have won the game even with the two starters missing. Those fans might be wrong. They might be right. The world keeps spinning. Sorry you’re butthurt about it, either way. 

8 hours ago, RidinTheRange said:

This is true, but both starting running backs in the slot t tore their ACLs the week prior to playing PNG.  That made a significant impact on limiting their offensive production.

According to Liberty Hill fans, it would have been the same outcome. 

What are PNG’s realistic prospects next year? I don’t mean the assumptions that we’ll recreate last year just because we have Coach Joseph. With who we have coming back are we looking like a deep playoff run again? 

8 minutes ago, Past Pirate said:

If DuBois runs the offense like he did when he was OC, it will be somewhat of improvement. Week to week the scheme was different with him as OC. The last several years we seem stuck on one page of the playbook. 

Vidor’s playbook has pages? 

What if we modified 7-Year Rule? In 7 years, you only learn about a coach’s ability to make THAT school good. It’s possible that same coach goes to a different school and wins state. It’s also possible an elite, winning coach at one program goes to a different school and doesn’t do as well (example: Westerberg from Allen to BH. BH got better under him, but didn’t ever get past the 3rd round). But, when a school board evaluates a coach’s performance, they only have to care what the coach is doing at THAT school. So, in 7 years you’ll have a full picture of what the likely ceiling of that coach is at that school, and if the ceiling isn’t high enough after 7 years it’s appropriate to think about trying something different. 

I agree with Reagan’s 7-year principle, but I would modify it. Actually winning a state championship is often out of the hands of even the greatest coaches. Under Reagan’s approach, taken to the extreme, if a coach made it to state 7 years in a row but lost all of them, that coach should be fired. No one in the state would want that coach fired. So apply the 7 year rule more broadly : If a coach doesn’t get you to at least the 4th round within 7 years, you can reasonably assume his ceiling doesn’t go that high. In other words, you can know in 7 years if a coach has the ability to get that team in the range of a state championship. If you can get in that range, anything can happen, but it’s not always in the coach’s control. 

You don’t get the success west orange had (/will continue to have if they right the ship) on talent alone. You just can’t reliably have enough talent in such a small sample size for so long and across so many generations to build an entire program on genetics. Coaching and system have so much more to do with it than just “let’s hope we get a good crop this year.” 

2 minutes ago, BigEnosBurdette said:

Why does it matter to you?

I’m a part of nefarious conspiracy to get Vidor to have a good football team. 

55 minutes ago, vhs said:

So how soon should we expect to see him leading BC to state?  Sounds like he’s the one

Why is it harder to believe that Vidor has capable kids than it is to believe that the coaching could be better ? 

4 hours ago, BigEnosBurdette said:

Your thinking is…. If Surratt came to Vidor, he’d have Vidor hoisting the state championship in 7 yrs? Same can be said for let’s say BC, OF, and a few other area schools…. Is that what you are saying?

If that is was you’re saying…. Please let my buy a little of what you are smoking! 

If Surratt came to Vidor, Vidor would immediately do things it has never done in its history. Nearly all of Vidor’s problems can be solved with coaching. Instead, everyone blames the kids. As if there’s some big genetic difference between Vidor and PNG and Nederland (and when Vidor was in our district, except for the last few years they had the same size school as PNG). Before Hurricane Harvey, Vidor was sitting right at around 1400 kids. All respect to Coach Matthews, but I think Vidor runs their gimmick offense because Coach Matthews doesn’t know how to teach the skills necessary to run anything else. Vidor kids can run whatever their coach can or will teach them to run. Vidor players could blow everyone’s minds if their leadership believed they could. 

47 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I'm a little disappointed in that all we can come up with so far is that in the past 47 years Groves is the answer for why there is a difference in the two football cities!   Would like to hear other opinions!

I agree. Groves and Port Neches don’t exactly have a genetic wall erected between them. 

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

You must have saw different Vidor kids on the field than me. I think there is a significant difference in the speed and size of the PNG kids vs the Vidor kids. I agree they could learn to throw and catch, but are they going to out run people in open space or be able to block in the interior one on one being outsized?

yes 

1 minute ago, HarryDoyle said:

What different offense or defense would be a better fit for them than what they have been in?

Literally any offense. They don’t even run the slot T that well. And the belief that vidor kids “can’t” do a modern offense (a belief that Coach Matthews has shamelessly expressed in news interviews) is baseless. There is nothing different between the PNG / Nederland kids and the Vidor kids except that the Vidor kids’ coaches think the Vidor kids can’t learn how to throw a ball. 

Why not look for an outside hire? Vidor could do a lot with a different offense (and defense). I’d love to see it.

On 12/28/2022 at 9:25 AM, JBizzle said:

Are there any stats that show a home field advantage for the DFW teams or are we just making that up because we don't want to drive to Arlington? I know some losing coaches have brought it up, but does anyone have any data that shows an advantage?  Also, how close does a team have to be to Arlington to get the advantage?  I know Carthage played Kennedale a few years back and they could almost walk to the stadium.  Do the Dallas area teams stay and home the night before and get up and go to the game?  Wouldn't it be better to have your team in a hotel the night before so you can set curfew and make sure kids aren't out doing kid things?

With TV broadcasts, the games will stay at one location.  And with them playing all games at one location, they have to be indoors to avoid weather delays screwing up the whole schedule.  Sounds like NRG and the Alamo dome have to make changes to be considered.  Also heard NRG kinda blew their shot in 2015 by gouging the UIL.  I don't know that for a fact.

SOC would have had about 50 people if the game had been in Houston. Number of fans doesn’t control the game outcome, but it certainly didn’t hurt they were able to have a decent crowd since the game was played in their backyard. 

Aledo feels like kind of a given

18 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Look pay the money for Surratt, i would bet money yall beat PNG NEXT YEAR! Also would have a starting qb the next 3 years

I would take a tax increase to get Surratt. More than happy with coach Joseph at png, but if and when he leaves … 

Game day! Let’s get it. 

3 hours ago, aledoalumni said:

SOC is pretty tough to beat in the playoffs lately. Granted this team is different than last year but they do have recent championship experience. SOC is going to be confident and ready to put on for the Triple D. I almost wish Aledo would play on Friday night so Dallas could be all day Saturday. You absolutely have to respect the playoff path PNG has made. I'm sure they will be ready and the whole tribe (is that what yall calls yalls fans?) will show up. 

Good luck to Aledo this weekend! 

The key will the play in the trenches, but we can’t ignore this will be the best secondary we’ve faced all season. It’s going to be TOUGH to get down the field. If PNG can match them physically, I have no doubt the coaches can make winning adjustments. Just hope the stage isn’t too big for us. 

4 hours ago, NDNWarrior said:

Me too, since I’m a Newton Alumni.  I’ve always bled purple and white😁

The only color worth bleeding