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Nederland players look deflated, timid. Unsure of even where to line up. No enthusiasm. I haven’t believed they were so far gone as a lot of posters are saying, since I haven’t seen them play this year and I couldn’t believe Nederland has this kind of problem. But they look like they don’t even want to be on the field.

It wouldn’t be perfect.

Faircloth at WOS would be unbelievable.

I want to see that just to prove that Vidor can succeed using that offense.

I’m not having the same optimism. On the one hand, PNG looks like the nasty, rough defense we’ve all thought we’d never see again out of the Reservation. On the other hand, PAM (the only untroubled, steady, complete team we’ve played so far) made us look pretty silly. Ok, take away some points from PAM and give us a few to account for first-game, new coach jitters. It still shows us struggling against size, teamwork, and speed. I feel like we have a chance to make a massive statement. Our conditioning seems to be years ahead of a typical Faircloth team, and our tackling is much better. The offense appears more than competent. But I’ll have to see it to believe it against FBM.

Thoughts?

That’s all there has ever been. People don’t live in southeast Texas for the weather and tech startups. Those chemical plants are $$$$$

I agree. Coach Matthews has said in interviews that Vidor runs its system because they don’t have the personnel to run other systems. That’s foolishness. The spread, for example, was created for teams that aren’t as fast or big as their opponents. Vidor is not significantly different in terms of speed or body types or lack of actual athletes than PNG and Nederland. If PNG and Nederland can run modern offenses, so can Vidor. The worst part is Vidor isn’t even executing their Slot-T offense as well as they could. Liberty Hill runs a similar offense and is nearly unstoppable. They don’t appear to be bigger or faster than their opponents. They just run their system so well it’s hard for even more athletic teams to keep up (Crosby took all it had and then some to beat LH in 2020, and never actually stopped their offense). But are Vidor’s players less athletic, less intelligent, less willing to play than comparable school, less tough? No. Vidor’s problems are 100%, and have always been, a problem of teaching. Get coaches that believe in the players and don’t blame the players for the coach not knowing how to teach more balanced systems, and Vidor starts winning a lot more games a lot more consistently.

Png shouldn’t be #10. If we beat FBM we should be ranked, but not until then.

We beat Cornell thompson’s mustangs in 2013

West orange is tackling poorly. Png defense looks like a new creature, hasn’t been this disciplined since 2009. West orange doesn’t look like itself. But that png d line is playing like old west orange. Wild and tough.

Halftime png 14 - Wos 0

The person I quoted and responded to said the following : “Basically have 3 possible chances for wins this season. Willow Ridge, GP, SF” So if Nederland is predicted (by that person) as only being able to beat Willow Ridge, GP, and SF, the implication is that they will lose to PNG. Also, if you’re talking about Nederland, you’re talking about PNG. It’s in the Bible, probably.

Why is everyone writing Nederland off against PNG? Keep the jinx magic away from us. We have our own problems to deal with.

I agree JV looks strong. I saw one of those games myself and they dominated Royse City easily. They have a D1 receiver as well. They should improve. I don’t expect their ceiling is particularly high (though I hope it is, as I have a nephew playing varsity this year). My point is it’s a mistake to think the Westerberg name is magic pill that creates state championships. The great run at Allen was behind arguably the best high school quarterback in Texas history, for starters.

Frankly, Whitehouse was terrible last year. Prospects this year aren’t great. I’m wondering whether the Westerberg name should carry as much weight as it does. BH improved under Westerberg Sr, but that improvement also came during an era of disproportionate growth in BH’s favor, and they only did marginally better than they had done prior to his arrival. Kyler Murray and Allen HS having 7,000 kids is where the Westerberg legacy has to be traced.

I’d go for Purple Pandas

PNG should change their mascot to the “Port Neches Groves Washington Redskins.”

There’s been a few years between 1930 and 2022.

Jasper was the same size classification as PNG for years

Each carrying an iPad into the game

I don’t think we can ignore the conditioning and development program a coach puts in place. That is, would Carthage have the same level of prospects without the coach helping get them there?

Is Crosby going to protest its alignment to try to drop down? Wasn’t it just a few students over the 5aD1 mark?

You’re not supposed to tell us WHERE the drop is happening. It’s like you haven’t even seen a James Bond movie.

Any whispers as to what had them wanting Faircloth’s head?