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Since I'm thinking about it again, I think last week's game requires some perspective. In 2013, PNG had an "ok" team that I think finished 2nd in a particularly weak district. That year, Crosby went to the semifinals. PNG played Crosby in the first round of the playoffs and, though we were a mostly normal team and Crosby had its best team ever, PNG still managed to keep the score at 28-49.

This year PNG was "supposed" to have one of the best teams in the state, and Crosby is technically still rebuilding from the financial implosion of two years ago and is only in its second year with the coach, and PNG barely managed 14 points and got embarrassed on defense, with what is supposedly the best offense in the district, with what is actually the best QB in the area. The point in making the comparison: even Crosby's best team ever didn't blow us out the way we got blown out last week (Leaving aside the unanswered question as to where this year's Crosby team will rank -- If Crosby goes on to win state, I'll feel a lot better about this).

Something is not being done right. I'll avoid saying what should be done, because I don't know exactly what must be done to make a defense good. But will say that whatever should be done isn't being done, whatever that is. 

On 11/21/2020 at 6:29 PM, CCRed said:

I don’t see the “wash” from PAM. They struggled with BH and PNG took them to overtime. We see how Crosby took care of business with those same teams. 

Crosby and PAM would be a good game, and Crosby is a step above most of the competition PAM has faced. I'd have trouble predicting the winner. 

6 hours ago, spidersal said:

A 3 way tie uses point differential BH and Nederland are plus on points and PNG is negative on points I don’t know what the district’s maximum number of points allowed. If it is 17 BH is a plus 11, Nederland a plus 5 and PNG a minus 16. Just don’t know what the maximum points are

So PNG is playing cupcakes for the next two weeks. I don't have the math in front of me, but theoretically if PNG runs up the score two weeks in a row, they might be able to affect their seeding? I'd like to see what numbers they would need. 

2 hours ago, FrodoNDN said:

I settle for fundamental tackling techniques at practice.  Let's get back to shotgun alley.

Yep. Just tackle better. That’s all. 

1 hour ago, Justafan72 said:

Nobody's mentioning if Nederland wins out, they are District Champs.

I think it's because if Nederland wins out the seeding situation won't have any question marks. 

38 minutes ago, Uncle Pig said:

*offense

haha that makes more sense. 

Good luck to Crosby in the playoffs! Congratulations on the win. 

So with Crosby still undefeated, Nederland having one loss to PNG, PNG having two losses, and BH having two losses, where does that put us in seeding? Right now, its Crosby, Nederland, BH, and PNG (in that order). But if everyone wins out and Crosby beats Nederland, we'd have the next three behind Crosby having two losses each, and having each lost to one of the other runner-up teams (Nederland's losses would be to PNG and Crosby, BH's to Nederland and Crosby, and PNG's to BH and Crosby). How does second place get decided in that case? (Of course, Nederland could beat Crosby, but in that case the seeding is perfectly straightforward so I'm not asking about that situation). 

15 minutes ago, CougarCal said:

If you noticed the one kid Crosby had going both ways was cramping and came up a little gimpy several times.

Another thought is I've observed teams who just insert a two-way player in certain situations - Like the way Crosby did tonight, or Nederland (which, if I'm not mistaken, uses Fuselier both ways sometimes). Just to plug in a little extra skill in key moments. 

11 minutes ago, CougarCal said:

If you noticed the one kid Crosby had going both ways was cramping and came up a little gimpy several times.

Yeah, it's not always ideal. But even without playing kids both ways, there are so many ways PNG could improve its tackling. It's not an effort problem. The PNG players literally do not know how to tackle. They seem to be planting their feet and hoping to just hold on, which is why there are so many broken tackles - You don't tackle with your fingers, you tackle with a your body and with legs that don't stop driving. The PNG defense is playing flat-footed. 

1 minute ago, CougarCal said:

Did you have players going both ways last year?

Are you scrutinizing the concept of players going both ways? Crosby had players going both ways tonight. I'm not saying teams should absolutely always have two-way players, but only that the team should play the person in the position that most makes them able to win. And PNG doesn't appear interested in that concept at all. 

Just now, CougarCal said:

Did you have players going both ways last year?

I meant because of ya'll's decent defense. 

Just now, CougarCal said:

Well to be honest, you only scored 7 points on the 1st team defense so I’m not sure that woulda helped tonight!

Well, overall there needs to be improvement. And even with only 7 points on our end, we could at least hold the other team to 7 points. That would make a big difference. Remember last year when ya'll won by like 5 because of a decent defense? 

I blame coaching. I'm a massive Faircloth fan, but this is a complete breakdown of fundamental football. PNG has got to start playing the best players both ways, and get back to a tough style of aggressive, disciplined football. There is no reason we can't be excellent at offense and at least competent on defense. 

4 minutes ago, CowbellCoog said:

Crosby 54 

Png 7

 

Crosby kicked off to PNG and they fumbled it and recovered in the end zone for a TD lol

lol is right

TexanLive score shows Crosby 97, PNG 7. I can't tell if they're mocking us. 

I think it's safe to say PNG coaching staff don't even care about defense. Not even a little bit. 

30-7 Crosby at half. Crosby kicker has 3 field goals. 

5 minutes ago, Brubaker said:

The last two posts in succession are irony gold

It wasn’t lost on me haha 

Huge defensive stop by PNG 

This defense isn’t even something to be mad about. It’s just sad. 

Figure I'll drop a prediction. I HATE to say this, but in the spirit of objectivity, it doesn't look good for PNG. I honestly know nothing about Crosby, other than watching them against Barbers Hill, and that game is a bad sample since BH played like eagles with clipped wings or some other bad trouble that eagles can get themselves into. I don't know a lot about eagles, so I'm already regretting that joke. In any case, you don't need to know anything at all about Crosby to predict this game. PNG has been the most consistent team in the area in one aspect: An absolutely mortifying inability to make plays at the line or make open field tackles. This weakness has been particularly clear against running QBs. Every team we've played, no matter how good or bad, has been able to take advantage of it. So if Crosby is AT ALL competent at running faster than a dead snail on the bottom of a broken wheelchair, PNG is going to struggle all night. I HATE predicting a PNG loss against the Mecca. I'm hoping Faircloth got the ipad I placed in the mail this week because we are going to need all the help we can get. 

That being said, I in no way think Crosby is unbeatable. Crosby is solid. I think (again, based solely on what I observed against BH) they are a third-round team with a high seed, 2nd round with a low seed. PNG can win this game. I don't look at PNG as a bad team at all. They have played well in every game, and the only truly bad performance, even with the bad defense, was the implosion against BH. PNG has shown flashes of real potential and talent all season, and there is nothing to say it won't come together tonight. Remember the 2010 season, when Central marched into the Reservation for the last game of the season, one game away from an undefeated district championship -- In that season PNG had an awful defense and an incredible offense (that was a year, I should add, PNG dominated Crosby in the pre-season). PNG crushed Central and went to the third round, only to lose by 10 points against Manvel. So we could surprise people tonight, is my only point. We still have the best QB in the area, and a full stable of dangerous runningbacks and receivers. GO Indians. 

5 hours ago, CowbellCoog said:

Oh, thats impressive! What about the teams you have played this year? Oh ill wait, heard the tribe is on vacation and they took your iPad charges. 

It was impressive, last year. 

16 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Not even gonna speak on the 70pc😂, but when is the last time Png held a team to 10pts? 

Last year, held Tomball to 9, Crosby to 13 (so, close to ten), Santa Fe to 7. 

On 11/14/2020 at 2:22 PM, Tigers94 said:

We haven't played well against good teams this year. Maybe a few quarters here and there were good (first half against Pleasant Groove), but overall it was too much bad.

I do think we've improved from a few months ago, but it won't make a significant difference.

I look into my crystal ball for this game and all it shows me are a bunch of these 🏀🏀🏀

I think Silsbee would have beaten Jasper if that game hadn't been called for weather. Momentum was shifting to Silsbee.