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7 minutes ago, A BUC 77 said:
I definitely think it sped it up. You know. keeping up with the Jones.
Right. It certainly served to emphasize the difference in where the programs were. It’s one thing to have a down era; it’s another thing entirely to have your rival win state while you’re struggling. Like, if PNG and Nederland had both been 2-8 the last two seasons, they’re both probably eventually looking for new coaches, but it doesn’t become such a focus on one school’s success or failure.
Regardless, I have trouble believing Nederland doesn’t right the ship sooner than anyone thinks.
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3 hours ago, 1989NDN said:
I think PNg’s success was mostly symbolic in its effect on Nederland’s choices. The Nederland coaching staff failed on their own - If you changed nothing about PnG over the last two years and Nederland was posting strong 9 to 10 win seasons, they would still have their coach.
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29 minutes ago, outanup said:
Absolutely, just seems the process has been going on longer than we all know....Hearing good things and hoping for the best. Pretty sure this has divided the status quo of the community, which is to be expected. Also think the Sup has his feet to the fire or he wouldn't have made this move.
My guess (hope) is Barrow and the Super have been talking about this for a few weeks. Everyone sees the writing on the wall, most of all those two. If so, it could mean steps were quietly being taken in the background to identify solid candidates, beginning before the announcement.
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I wish PNG would schedule like this. It’s not a golden bullet, and it only really helps you go deep in the playoffs if your team is already good enough to build from the butt-whoopings. But if we could schedule something like Summer Creek/PAM, North Shore, and Astascosita, we’d really help ourselves out. We’d likely start 0-3, or 1-2, but who cares? It’s about getting ready for the playoffs. And if we could make the travel work, I’d love a matchup with College Station or Aledo.
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38 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:
Taso and UIL response
Fitch explained, "TASO has a very rigorous Conflict of Interest (COI) Policy."
"Simply living within a school's attendance zone in itself is not considered a conflict. Imagine if every official living in the DISD attendance zone was excluded from officiating any DISD game," Fitch wrote.
"This would significantly dilute the pool of very qualified officials. After our inquiries, we have determined that the Line Judge has not violated any of the items in the TASO COI (Conflict of Interest) policy," Fitch noted.
University Interscholastic League Athletic Director Ray Zepeda responded to Elizalde in a separate letter.
"It would be impossible to preclude someone from officiating a game for a school simply because they live in that city or town," Zepeda said.
"For example, officials that live in the city of Dallas called four out of the five rounds of SOC's playoff contests prior to the 2023 state championship game," Zepeda noted.
"In conclusion, the game between Dallas South Oak Cliff and Port Neches-Groves was a very well played, well coached, competitive game that featured two very storied programs in Texas high school football," Zepeda said.
This outlines how incredibly stupid the grievance was. DISD didn’t file grievances about the Dallas-resident referees that reffed 4 of their 5 playoff games on the way to state. But suddenly they get a ref that isn’t from Dallas and it’s the end of the world.
And, it makes clear what a lot of us already assumed, which was that South Oak Cliff had all the information needed provided to them in advance. This was just a pitiful attempt to gripe about losing.
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25 minutes ago, Old Ape said:
Nederland is a better than job than alot of other jobs in that area because it is 5A D2. I am not disrespecting PNG with this statement but you aint running into Desoto, Carthage, Silsbee, Jasper, Aledo in that division.
PNG hasn’t lost to Jasper or Silsbee in years. DeSoto, Carthage, and Aledo are a different story. But I’m confident we would have beaten Carthage last year.
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16 minutes ago, Old Ape said:
1 and zero. PNG has 2 since he got out of yalls division though!!!
Do yall like watching PNG waltz into State game??
Three appearances and one victory in 48 years, after taking massive steps forward in training, condition, and coaching, and only following years of getting donkey stomped by better teams , and we finally become one of those better teams and now it’s “waltzing”?
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1 hour ago, jake94 said:
Ahhh. I think he was talking about Prieto at Crosby. I’m not sure if Nederland would be an upgrade over Lake Worth or not, I’m not familiar with that program.
Westerberg would be good, regardless, except we’ve already seen his ceiling at a school like Nederland. He improved BH, but that meant bringing them from first round exits to third round. Prieto would be much better, I think.
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8 minutes ago, jake94 said:
I don’t think we can afford Westerberg!
If we’re talking Westerberg, he only beat PNG twice (he was 2-2 all time against us). We beat BH in 2021 (Westerberg wasn’t there). BH won by 5 in 2019. The only decisive win was in 2020 (54-28).
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11 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:
I was told he always wanted to
coach for Big Ned
I guarantee you wouldn’t see any more missed tackles
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2 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
Do you blame him after the way PN-g treated him?
No - It‘s only a guess though, as to his mindset. But I agree with those who would prefer a defensive minded coach, regardless.
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1 hour ago, glassjoe said:
Want to make a splash, then there is one name and one name only…Faircloth! 😬 Y’all tell me a coach that will bring in a staff and be more motivated to destroy, embarrass and rip the soul from PN-G? 😂😂
someone get him on the phone!!
#MakeItHappen
Faircloth could do great things at Nederland. My guess is he wants to put Mid County in his rear view mirror for good though
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30 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:
They are doing the search nation wide… they are putting a committee together. Hearing rumblings they want someone by April 1.
That seems late.
Not for nothing, but there’s a certain former 2x state champion coach from West Orange who Nederland might consider.
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2 hours ago, KF89 said:
Come on man, he learned his lesson. Now he will be more motivated as a football coach to redeem himself at Nederland
Wait, so we lost an effective coach because of over-celebration? That sounds like something that should be more of a, “Hey, don’t do that anymore,” situation. Unless there’s more to it than is public.
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4 minutes ago, KF89 said:
Yes
Dang. That’s a loss for PnG
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Just now, KF89 said:
I hear png,BC need OC's....
Is this confirmed?
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So, this wasn’t “retirement.” It was “resignation.” I wonder if he’ll put his name in the hat for coaching jobs elsewhere?
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Now, the question becomes, what process will NISD follow to select the new coach? Will they follow PNG’s and try to get a handpicked young guy with pedigree? Will they simply open it up statewide see who shows up? Or will they go in-house again?
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Congratulations to him on a long and effective career, all at the same school. He was a part of the most consistent era of success against PNG, as well as several good playoff runs. Good luck to Coach Barrow in whatever he does after.
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47 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
I’m not sure what you mean by “perception is reality.” Are you trying to be profound, or simply be rude in some way? It doesn’t land as hard as you seem to think it does.
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45 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
The question still hinges on what the coaches knew. Because if the coaches had access to the full information and still agreed to the contest, under the rules you shared above, the coaches have agreed to and therefore waived the restrictions. I have a hard time thinking the coaches didn’t get the refs’ bios.
Nederland is open, Barrow Resigns
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With no data, my assumption is participation is down. This is based on anecdotes from Nederland people who at least claim to be aware of kids who might otherwise be playing who are walking the halls instead. And, it seems to follow that if a program isn’t doing well there’s at least a few who walk away. Participation goes up with success. PNG had at least one key player come back between Joseph’s first and second years. That might just be a coincidence (unrelated to the success in Year 1). Also, just given Nederland’s history of having good players, I assume those people still exist even if they aren’t on the team. The only other explanation would be that Nederland just doesn’t have good players right now, which I refuse to believe, and I strongly suspect a new coach will prove me right.