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20 hours ago, PNGFaithful said:

Buddy of the Supt who coached under Burnett and was demoted to JR High under Faircloth. 

That’s discouraging 

5 hours ago, dj said:

Glad u understand!! And it will only get worse.i don't see any positive things coming anytime soon.somethings didn't need to be changed.and now everyone has to suffer for it.the players,coaches,and the community.i never thought I would ever see the day where w.o fans stopped going to games.i truly believe that everything that built here in the the early 80's have been taking away.

Until I see otherwise, I assume west orange will bounce back next year. 

1 hour ago, Lions Pride 2021 said:

Yes they have. Several posters have pointed out multiple season where they lost 4-5 games in a season. Both Hooks and Thompson had off seasons. Most recently was 2018. 

The only thing that matters is making the playoffs and advancing. 

Mustang fans have short memories and are very spoiled. 

West orange has lost multiple games before, but have they lost “like” this in recent memory? Lethargic, lost, timid? 

2 hours ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

The Nederland Bulldogs are 1-8 in their last 9 ballgames

Wow

Looks like this one is the battle for second place in district, assuming Dayton will lose to FBM. A huge game. Dayton looks really good. 

7 hours ago, Lions Pride 2021 said:

Isn't WO-S the smallest team in its district? The school isn't growing. Maybe dropping down to 3A would help.

WO-S is everyone's super bowl. That they had a tremendous run of success in district before this year is a testament to the excellence of the program. Down years happen. And Silsbee and H-F are very good teams. The most important thing is making the playoffs. I feel bad for the first place winner in the cross district.

West orange never has a down year like this. I may be wrong , but we’d have to go back 30-40 years to find a west orange team losing like this. When they lost to png I thought, “ok, png might just be better than we thought and are finally playing defense.” When they lost to Silsbee I thought, “well of course - Silsbee has one of the best players in the state and is probably going to go at least five rounds this year.” Then they kept losing. And they keep losing on absolutely terrible offensive production and non-existent defense. This kind of self-destruction is unheard of for west orange. It may amount to just a down year, but that it’s happening at all is weird. A down year for west orange used to mean district champs and a second or third round exit. Now it means losing to Hampshire Fannet ? This season is a historic dip for that program 

On 10/5/2022 at 7:12 AM, jayhawk said:

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     Daytons QB makes our offense click !

Nederland players look deflated, timid. Unsure of even where to line up. No enthusiasm. I haven’t believed they were so far gone as a lot of posters are saying, since I haven’t seen them play this year and I couldn’t believe Nederland has this kind of problem. But they look like they don’t even want to be on the field. 

6 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

 Notwithstanding the fact that WOS’s claim to fame is defense and Faircloth strips his defense to bolster his offensive?

It wouldn’t be perfect. 

10 hours ago, refuse2lose said:

Looks like WOS should have hired this guy.

Faircloth at WOS would be unbelievable. 

50 minutes ago, Hagar said:

If/when Matthews retires and Vidor inevitably goes to the spread, I’d love to see Faircloth be at the helm.  I know, not a snowballs chance in hades, but it’s okay to “wish”.  Guy does know offense.  Probably one of the best ever.  I’m thrilled to see him doing well.

I want to see that just to prove that Vidor can succeed using that offense. 

I’m not having the same optimism. On the one hand, PNG looks like the nasty, rough defense we’ve all thought we’d never see again out of the Reservation. On the other hand, PAM (the only untroubled, steady, complete team we’ve played so far) made us look pretty silly. Ok, take away some points from PAM and give us a few to account for first-game, new coach jitters. It still shows us struggling against size, teamwork, and speed. I feel like we have a chance to make a massive statement. Our conditioning seems to be years ahead of a typical Faircloth team, and our tackling is much better. The offense appears more than competent. But I’ll have to see it to believe it against FBM. 

Thoughts? 

4 hours ago, lcm93 said:

That's all there is is chemical plants and few to none options!!

That’s all there has ever been. People don’t live in southeast Texas for the weather and tech startups. Those chemical plants are $$$$$

On 9/14/2022 at 12:22 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

The water has to be drinkable. The kids know the game plan stinks and that's why they don't buy in. The kids know that the coaches don't believe in their athletic ability and that's why we are still sub .500 Slot-Ting it 23 years later.

I agree. Coach Matthews has said in interviews that Vidor runs its system because they don’t have the personnel to run other systems. That’s foolishness. The spread, for example, was created for teams that aren’t as fast or big as their opponents. Vidor is not significantly different in terms of speed or body types or lack of actual athletes than PNG and Nederland. If PNG and Nederland can run modern offenses, so can Vidor. The worst part is Vidor isn’t even executing their Slot-T offense as well as they could. Liberty Hill runs a similar offense and is nearly unstoppable. They don’t appear to be bigger or faster than their opponents. They just run their system so well it’s hard for even more athletic teams to keep up (Crosby took all it had and then some to beat LH in 2020, and never actually stopped their offense). But are Vidor’s players less athletic, less intelligent, less willing to play than comparable school, less tough? No. Vidor’s problems are 100%, and have always been, a problem of teaching. Get coaches that believe in the players and don’t blame the players for the coach not knowing how to teach more balanced systems, and Vidor starts winning a lot more games a lot more consistently. 

Png shouldn’t be #10. If we beat FBM we should be ranked, but not until then. 

8 minutes ago, MMstangfan said:

Congratulations to PNG , just to put it in perspective. PNG is a 5A school, playing a 4A Div II school. They should always win this match up . But have been unable to do that for 18 years. And they still have not , nor will they ever beat a Cornell Thompson coached team.  WOS will at best be a mediocre program from here on out. They will win some games , when playing in their classification because they do have talent .  It was a great ride , and I will always support the Stangs. 
So PNG fans don’t get too stoked up over this win. 

We beat Cornell thompson’s mustangs in 2013

West orange is tackling poorly. Png defense looks like a new creature, hasn’t been this disciplined since 2009. West orange doesn’t look like itself. But that png d line is playing like old west orange. Wild and tough. 

Just now, Bigdog said:

Score? Time?

Halftime png 14 - Wos 0 

4 hours ago, pakronos said:

nobody even made reference to png smh

The person I quoted and responded to said the following : “Basically have 3 possible chances for wins this season. Willow Ridge, GP, SF” 

So if Nederland is predicted (by that person) as only being able to beat Willow Ridge, GP, and SF, the implication is that they will lose to PNG.
 

Also, if you’re talking about Nederland, you’re talking about PNG. It’s in the Bible, probably. 

11 hours ago, spidersal said:

I would like to see all golden triangle teams do well every year. This year it looks like WOS, Silsbee, Woodville, LCM pretty good teams

we have to face the bad teams as well and face it Vidor and Nederland are simply bad this year

other than a couple of runs by # 13 and a DL that looked a little better, I don’t see much

They have been blown out in both games

I am glad you are a Bulldog backer, but when your 1st 2 games have not even been close, there is not much talent

Basically have 3 possible chances for wins this season. Willow Ridge, GP, SF

Why is everyone writing Nederland off against PNG? Keep the jinx magic away from us. We have our own problems to deal with. 

32 minutes ago, Matthew328 said:

Whitehouse brings back 7 on offense, 3 defense....JV was 7-2-1 last year, so I'd say there's a pretty decent chance for improvement...especially considering they were pretty competitive in every game last year except for Texas High...

I agree JV looks strong. I saw one of those games myself and they dominated Royse City easily. They have a D1 receiver as well. They should improve. I don’t expect their ceiling is particularly high (though I hope it is, as I have a nephew playing varsity this year). My point is it’s a mistake to think the Westerberg name is magic pill that creates state championships. The great run at Allen was behind arguably the best high school quarterback in Texas history, for starters. 

On 5/10/2022 at 11:19 AM, Cougar14.2 said:

Seems like the AD position at a growing district like Hays CISD would be a nice, cushy place to retire from? Makes me wonder if he just took the job at Hays CISD due to some type of contractual language regarding his exit from BH? Makes it really seem like a money-grab at BH while simultaneously using that position as a launch pad for his son which ended up getting the Whitehouse job last year. 

His son Kyle and I were on the same team for a while in college so I know TW has to be getting up there in age which makes the move even more odd unless he's just always wanted to coach his hometown team and this is the first opportunity he's had to do so? 

Frankly, Whitehouse was terrible last year. Prospects this year aren’t great. I’m wondering whether the Westerberg name should carry as much weight as it does. BH improved under Westerberg Sr, but that improvement also came during an era of disproportionate growth in BH’s favor, and they only did marginally better than they had done prior to his arrival. Kyler Murray and Allen HS having 7,000 kids is where the Westerberg legacy has to be traced. 

On 4/29/2022 at 3:02 PM, bulldawg64 said:

Pandas.peacocks,poodles or pomeranians sounds good lol!! Always could add purple in front of name.

I’d go for Purple Pandas 

On 3/23/2022 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

The name change is inevitable in this P.C. age. The Redskins (will always be Redskins to me) have waaaaaaay more money than a small town in Texas and they couldn't stop it.

 

 

    

PNG should change their mascot to the “Port Neches Groves Washington Redskins.” 

On 3/10/2022 at 10:47 AM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

It's 2022, not 1930

There’s been a few years between 1930 and 2022.