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35 minutes ago, Indians93 said:

PNG would need to pull out all the stops and go full Danny Malone on them to even have a prayer.  The defense just isn't there to stop this team.  My suggestion?  Go for it on every fourth down.  Onside kick every single time.  install a triple option play and 15 other trick plays and pray for a miracle.  What do you have to lose?  Go Indians. 

Agreed. Nothing to lose. You can't play a normal game against a team where your normal game isn't going to cut it. So go full Harlem Globetrotters. Onside kicks, fake punts, 4th down attempts, you name it. 

2 hours ago, Bigdog9 said:

It really is unstoppable when you have an athlete under center. Nobody besides Nederland could stop vidor when Montana quirante was there

Only his senior year - Vidor had him for three years, I think, and both PNG and Nederland handled him fine. His senior year also coincided with PNG having one of its worst teams in the past 20 years. Vidor's offense is only truly effective against a team that never faces that kind of offense (like Vidor beating PAM in 2016). 

1 hour ago, dme1111 said:

I have a hard time imagining that PNG could win 1 in a 1000 times against this team.  This will be a bloodbath.  The only thing that will keep FBM from scoring 70+ points is the restraint of their coaches.  

In PNGs defense, I think FBM would hang 60-70 on every team in our district.  

Good luck PNG!!  I hope you guys pull off the miracle!!  

Right - It's an important note. No one in this district is beating FBM, so our district race was just a contest to see who gets beaten by them sooner. That being said, good luck to all in our district who might face them. 

1 hour ago, Bigdog9 said:

Now I will say Nederland has done the same with much less talent. 

I don't know if I buy into what seems to be the general consensus that Nederland has had less talent than PNG over the last decade or so. Nederland has been good, and, at times, very good (the only 5a team in the area apart from Crosby to see the 4th round of the playoffs in the last 15 years or so, and maybe longer - Though I admit ignorance as to whether Texas City has been that far in that time). PNG really only has had Roschon Johnson as far as true next-level players, with Jeremiah Rose, Brennan Doty, Adam Morse, Jayce Nelson, Keynel Mczeal, and another receiver whose name I forgot being far inferior standouts. The rest of the disparity, if any, between PNG and Nederland players either comes down to coaching (which I think most would argue is at-best even or at-worst favors Nederland) and marginal and hard-to-prove differences in talent (which, based on the records, still favored Nederland). Nederland has had a dominant offensive line for most of the last ten years, a consistently competent offense, one of the best secondaries in the area, and consistently strong runningback play. And, Nederland can usually find a kicker who can hit a field goal from more than 20 yards, which seems to have been a problem for PNG over the last decade. Not to mention Nederland had Sage Seay and a bunch of others that I couldn't name since I don't follow Nederland as closely -- the point being the cupboard hasn't been bare for Nederland, especially if PNG is the comparison. Both teams have enjoyed a very consistent decade, with a mostly low ceiling, but moments of high performance and win-loss records that most coaches and teams would certainly envy. I think just the fact that there are so few blowouts in the rivalry, especially as of late, shows a pretty even talent distribution. 

3 hours ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

If Texas City can get 60 on PN-G I wouldn't be surprised to see FB Marshall to get into the 70s.

They CAN get 70. But I'm guessing they slow it down in the second half to avoid chance of injury. 

BH should roll. I'd be surprised if not. 

Can PNG keep up in a track meet? Stranger things have happened. Go Indians. Prediction: FBM 60, PNG 14. 

9 hours ago, NedNRed said:

Oh lord here we go. SETX guru is speaking

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about, but if it helps : 

9 hours ago, Bigdog said:

How do you figure? Heads up win vs Crosby that was #1 until tonight.

Just now, Bigdog said:

No, I don’t think so

I think yes. 

33 minutes ago, BHFAN said:

FBM . Not going to be pretty 

Nope 

So who is our playoff opponent? 

Defense, defense, defense

Mind blown. Good job, Nederland! I’m stunned. 

The UIL absolutely should impose sanctions on the program. If it had been the first time, the program could argue they were ignorant of the kid's behavior and tendancies. But he did it last year and they knew about it. Having him still on the field is a joke. 

5 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Even a great QB can’t do it all.   Football is still a team sport.  Based on the “Points Against”, I don’t think Bost is the problem.   Even Roschon would have trouble winning when opponents are throwing up big points on you.   

Just an outsider’s opinion.

Roschon was clearly the most visible and profound difference when he was on the field for us (because even just one athlete like him can make all the difference), but it was also three years of the defense being pretty good. In 2018 the defense was probably the closest to having a good defense we’ve had in more than a decade. 

9 hours ago, BHFAN said:

I think PNG and NED need a date night. All this talk about how pretty they are in different outfits sounds like y’all need a night out away from the kids. Ya know where BIG NED can be BIG NED again❤️
 

back to the subject, some Indian is going to get their arse kicked FRIDAY😃

You just wish you had someone to hate you the way PNG and Nederland hate each other. It's a hateful hate story. 

1 hour ago, ECBucFan said:

It may sound counterintutitive, but I think PN-G missing the playoffs would be more beneficial in the long run than a first round "one and done" beatdown. It would clearly illustrate the need for change, instead of somehow thinking its really not that urgent to fix the issues. 

And for cryin' out loud, PLEASE bring back the Purple and White, hopefully with the zigzag trim. That generic grey and white on the field is just terrible. PN-G needs to become PN-G again.  

 

On that note, I want Nederland to sport the all gold look more often. There is something old school about it that looks awesome against the PNG purple. And the gray pants need to be burned. 

52 minutes ago, aki1994 said:

Or at least decide to never punt on offense. Might as well make it a no punt and onside kick every time type of team if you are never going to stop the other team from scoring. 

With this team that would be just as good. We would actually convert a few of those 4th downs. And we'd probably get at least one onside kick. 

11 minutes ago, PdaddyBball said:

I compared last years stats.

Gave up just under 22 points per game while averaging 26  on offense  

The Indians now are giving up close to 40 points per game while scoring an average of 33.

Everyone does have an off year here and there. Faircloth has only had one losing season at PNG which was the only year they didn’t make playoffs under him. Maybe it’s just another off year. 

Right - overall, PNG has been a strong team. I think part of the issue people are seeing this year is that this team has so many good pieces that being bad is a surprise. The 2012 team that didn't make the playoffs was bad from top to bottom (only beat Silsbee and Lumberton), with the exception of Jeremiah Rose (who was one of the all-time great receivers of PNG history) and several of the underclassmen. 

40 minutes ago, png9mon said:

PNG must move athletes around, go both ways if you need to & most importantly GET A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR WHO WILL MAKE SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS!!!  Otherwise, keeping only stellar athletes on offense will not benefit you over an entire season.  This PNG team has to be able to occasionally stop other offenses from scoring!!!

I just want three punts in one game from the other team. Let's start there. 

I'm a major Faircloth fan, even when we lose to Nederland six years in a row. I think he is a very good coach, especially and obviously on the offensive side. I think he is a great offensive mind. I'll be sad when he eventually moves on from PNG. All that being said, the defense has been poor beginning in 2010 (and, honestly, as much as that 2010 defense struggled, it seems downright stellar compared to this year). We've had some good defensive moments, but overall we've been below what we could be. 

So PNG will still make the playoffs if Texas City loses to BH and PNG beats Santa Fe. For what it’s worth, a chance to play one more game is worth cheering for. I can’t imagine we’d be able to hang with whoever we meet in the first round. And at this point I’m not even confident we beat Santa Fe. 

29 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I don’t doubt it. State law generally prohibits golf carts on the road but it is one of the only laws (maybe the only) that allows a city by ordinance, to override state law. 

That’s interesting 

4 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I don’t think golf carts are legal in Groves. 

If they aren’t, there are a bunch of people who don’t know it.