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This was probably true. But, I'm sure we have different reasons on why this was. Why was WOS the only Orange county school that this was happening? Could it have been because during those times they the "right" coach cultivating those athletes to make them the best talent on the field. And maybe the other Orange county school's coaches weren't able to? We saw a "dramatic" drop off in performance when Cornel left. Also, we saw an improvement at LCM when they got a new coach. Didn't we?!

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Or, you can not win one and kick up your feet for 24 years like some in the area! But, on the other hand, if you win one in the first 7 years you'll more than likely win another. Why, because that's what Elite coaches do. I know we don't see it that often because there aren't that many Elite coaches around. Only 10% at any given time is an Elite coach. BTW -- winning only one State Title doesn't give one a spot in that category.

It's 7 years per school. If you were an Elite coach then you'd have nothing to worry about.

Like you have said, and I agree, there are exceptions to everything. But, 90% of the time coaching will prevail as the deciding factor.

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WOS still had the same level of talent this year. What happened? Wrong coach, wrong result. Or did the talent stop showing up when Cornel left? Also, Newton, they had pretty good coaches when they were winning State. The Newton faithful are going to be disappointed with what they got now. But they still have the talent! Of course, as always, this is just my opinion!

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In bold -- ABSOLUTELY! None of the schools that Surratt, Buchanan and Briles were at ever won a State Championship. If you are not sure what happened after they arrived at their respective schools then I'd do a little research and swing around back to us. Before he arrived, the school Briles was at was pretty bad off. Could even be said it would equate, or even worse, to what's going on at Vidor. So, yes, again, coaching does matter. Now, with that being said, will Vidor get a Championship-type coach? The odds are against it. But, they are out there. That's why a school must keep trying.

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Brady was only one of 22 starters on the field. He never played defense. More of a coincidence I would say. Just like the discussion about PNG not winning a Title with that great QB they had a few years back. People here were saying you need more than just one person to win Titles. Anyway, coaches don't usually stay on top for various reasons. Landry didn't. Lombardi didn't.

Did Surratt, Buchanan and Briles not win State Championships in their first 7 years? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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well, this is interesting!

No, you are not going to see a 12 flat runner in track beat a 10 flat runner in the 100. One can only minimally do any coaching there. But, in football I've seen many times where stronger, faster teams lose to better coached teams.

Leave it to me, yes. 7 years you'll know if you have a championship coach or not. Surratt, Buchanan, and Briles all did it in seven years at the school they were at. If people were honest here, everyone knew the former PNG coach, and former Vidor wasn't going to win any championships after 7 years. And we were right. But, that's left up to the individual school districts if they want to waste 24 years.

No, PNG gives them 12 years!

There's a lot of speculation here. So, with that being said, could a bad coach play in the big dance with 35 seniors. But, I don't think that's the real point here. How many were starters and how many starters are returning should be the salient question. Same success next year? Who knows. But if he's the coach we think he is then, yes, success will continue. But the fact still remains, he did in 1 year what the previous coach couldn't do in 12.

Have you ever seen less talented football teams win?

Let's see: There was anxiety, foaming at the mouth and down right hyperventilating when the PNG coach left. The chant was: how could they get rid of this excellent coach?! Then, all of a sudden -- it got quite. Even to the point of saying -- Faircloth who? Lumberton was wallowing around in mediocrity until this past year. WOS has for many, many years been known for their football. But what happened this year? On the first two, did the athletes just start showing up when these new coaches did? How about at WOS, did the WOS-type athletes just stop showing up when the new coach did? NO!! It's just more examples what the right, or wrong, coach can do. What does this have to do with Vidor: It's a template of what to do and what not to do. But -- are they paying attention?!

I will some-what agree. Any sport, except football, you have to have the talent. Basketball, track, baseball golf, on that, I'll agree.