Englebert

[b]Beaumont Central[/b]/Beaumont West Brook Beaumont Ozen/[b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] [b]Dayton[/b]/Livingston Lumberton/[b]Barbers Hill[/b] Goose Creek Memorial/[b]Nederland[/b] Little Cypress-Mauriceville/[b]Silsbee[/b] [b]Vidor[/b]/Bridge City [b]West Orange-Stark[/b]/Port Neches-Groves Anahuac/[b]Hamshire-Fannett[/b] [b]Splendora[/b]/Hardin-Jefferson [b]Buna[/b]/Kirbyville Coldspring-Oakhurst/[b]Navasota[/b] Diboll/[b]Corrigan-Camden[/b] [b]Hardin[/b]/Tarkington [b]Newton[/b]/Liberty Orangefield/[b]Jasper[/b] [b]Woodville[/b]/Shepherd [b]Deweyville[/b]/Evadale Kountze/[b]Hull-Daisetta[/b] [b]West Sabine[/b]/Hemphill [b]Colmesneil[/b]/Burkeville [b]West Hardin[/b]/Sabine Pass Willis/[b]Crosby[/b] Alvin Living Stones/[b]High Island[/b] Huntsville Alpha Omega/[b]Chester[/b]

I will be in Splendora sending WOSgrad updates on the HF vs Splendora game.

Baytown Sterling/[b]Baytown Lee[/b] Beaumont Central/[b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] Beaumont Ozen/[b]Beaumont West Brook[/b] Crosby/[b]Nederland[/b] Little Cypress-Mauriceville/[b]West Orange-Stark[/b] [b]Port Neches-Groves[/b]/Silsbee [b]Vidor[/b]/Santa Fe Fort Bend Elkins/[b]Dayton[/b] Nuevo Leon/[b]Barbers Hill[/b] Livingston/[b]Woodlands College Park[/b] Hardin-Jefferson/[b]Anahuac[/b] Orangefield/[b]East Chambers[/b] Bridge City/[b]Newton[/b] [b]Hamshire-Fannett[/b]/Splendora [b]Jasper[/b]/Liberty Shepherd/[b]Kountze[/b] Hull-Daisetta/[b]Hardin[/b] Warren/[b]Evadale[/b] Sabine Pass/[b]Deweyville[/b] [b]Beaumont Kelly[/b]/West Sabine Burkeville/[b]West Hardin[/b] [b]Buna[/b]/Center New Waverly/[b]Woodville[/b] [b]San Augustine[/b]/Tyler Grace

I moved to BH from Fannett in 1999. I moved to Hamshire in 2000. One year was all I could take.  ;D

Without clicking on the link, I'm gonna guess the Yankees out spent everyone.  ;D

"High school players brutally beaten for showing up other team" won't sell as many papers as the headline "High school players brutally beaten for Tebowing".

[quote name="SFA85" post="1140333" timestamp="1323121053"] Calallen's never beaten a Reg 3 team.  LM turned them back numerous times.  WO-S got them once.  Can't see why Manvel doesn't beat them as well [/quote] You're almost correct. Calallen beat Brenham (Reg 3) in the Semis in 2005. They've lost every other time though. I will have to go with Manvel in this one.

The picture says it all. The officials made the correct call.

[quote name="RC" post="1135461" timestamp="1322671305"] If Jonathan Gray played all 4 quarters he'd probably already have the record.  Everytime I read about him it talks about him being very limited in the 2nd half.  I know he has to stay healthy, but that is hurting his chances at records. [/quote] From the articles I read on Kenneth Hall, he sat out on offense the entire 2nd half of most of his games. He played both offense and defense. I think they played a 10 game schedule (not sure), but Class B (now 1A) only played two playoff games back then.

Ranked teams that lost this week: 5A La Porte beat Katy (1) 9-7 Arlington Martin beat Euless Trinity (3) 19-7 Spring Dekaney beat Longview (6) 59-35 Fort Bend Hightower beat Houston Cypress-Fairbanks (10) 21-14 4A Waco Midway beat Denton Ryan (2) 19-7 Tyler beat Dallas Highland Park (4) 42-39 Kerrville Tivy beat Port Lavaca Calhoun (5) 50-43 3A Henderson beat Celina (5) 42-19 2A Cisco beat Idalou (2) 27-14 Eastland (5) beat Wall (4) 51-22 1A Mason (3) beat Ganado (1) 7-0 Stamford beat Albany (5) 28-21 Mart beat Clarksville (9) 33-28 Lovelady beat Price Carlisle (10) 49-22 DI 16-3A Henderson beat Lindale (9) in round 2, beat Celina (5) in round 3, and will play Alvarado (6) in Semis. If they get through they will play the winner of Tyler Chapel Hill (1)/West Columbia (7) in State Championship game. To win State, Henderson will have to beat 4 ranked teams in a row. Other interesting scores: DI 8-2A Third Place finisher Daingerfield beat fellow District Champ Redwater 55-13 DI 13-2A Third Place finisher Blanco beat fellow District Champ Lago Vista 14-11 DI 4-1A Third Place finisher Stamford beat fellow District Champ Albany (5) 28-21   (Will play fellow District Runner Up Seymour next week) DII 13-1A Third Place finisher Burton beat fellow District Champ Granger 17-7 In 6Man, Abbott beat Lometa 118-92

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1127670" timestamp="1321996132"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=92052.msg1127635#msg1127635 date=1321993925] Looks like PAM needs to not give up 34 points! [/quote]Yes this ^^^ [/quote] That, or score 35.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1124723" timestamp="1321750168"] [quote author=Englebert link=topic=91895.msg1124720#msg1124720 date=1321749895] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=91895.msg1124712#msg1124712 date=1321749607] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=91895.msg1124642#msg1124642 date=1321746291] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=91895.msg1124622#msg1124622 date=1321745571] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=91895.msg1124583#msg1124583 date=1321744118] I'm with you Englebert. You deserve it by winning more district games. I'm not a fan of 4 teams in the playoffs in a district with 8 teams. It teaches mediocrity. Three should be the max , IMO, in a district with 8 teams, and 2 teams with a 6 team district. Sure it's great that Ozen is doing well, but I bet there are not many other 4th place teams still in the playoffs. It's more the exception than the rule. Growing up, I can never remember being excited in the 100m dash when I finished in 4th place out of 8 runners. [/quote] Fellas, I don't think the issue is sending so many teams. It's the fact that Texas has so many kids in school it's hard demographically to make districts that are fair travel and otherwise to all the teams. It's either we take 4A and make two divisions out of it or we make 4A or add more As on the top end (7A?) and the teams travel across the state according to their size. There are a heck of a lot more kids and schools now than there were in the 70s when I was a kid. It's no more unrealistic now than when we (Vidor) had to play in a 5A district in the 90s when we had the same number of kids as PNG or Nederland. We played in 4 team districts in the 70s. Simple math. [/quote] I understand where you're coming from with travel and all, but back when you and I played, only the best team (s) made it to the playoffs, and it made it so that every game in district was important. Football (and sports in general) teach kids how to approach life. For example, I've observed a lot of young kids who want to work a 30 hour week and get paid a 40 hour week. Just look at the direction our country is going. I know AAW, we are suppose to discuss this in the political forum-sorry.  8) For me, it's more about the bigger picture...Again, JMO. [/quote] Read my signature. The older generation always thinks the younger generation is gonna destroy the world. It hasnt happened yet. Kids are kids are kids, the kids now aren't much different from kids when you were growing up. [/quote] So what happened to the Romans? [/quote] They became Italians 8) [/quote] ;D ;D  8)

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1124712" timestamp="1321749607"] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=91895.msg1124642#msg1124642 date=1321746291] [quote author=robanadana link=topic=91895.msg1124622#msg1124622 date=1321745571] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=91895.msg1124583#msg1124583 date=1321744118] I'm with you Englebert. You deserve it by winning more district games. I'm not a fan of 4 teams in the playoffs in a district with 8 teams. It teaches mediocrity. Three should be the max , IMO, in a district with 8 teams, and 2 teams with a 6 team district. Sure it's great that Ozen is doing well, but I bet there are not many other 4th place teams still in the playoffs. It's more the exception than the rule. Growing up, I can never remember being excited in the 100m dash when I finished in 4th place out of 8 runners. [/quote] Fellas, I don't think the issue is sending so many teams. It's the fact that Texas has so many kids in school it's hard demographically to make districts that are fair travel and otherwise to all the teams. It's either we take 4A and make two divisions out of it or we make 4A or add more As on the top end (7A?) and the teams travel across the state according to their size. There are a heck of a lot more kids and schools now than there were in the 70s when I was a kid. It's no more unrealistic now than when we (Vidor) had to play in a 5A district in the 90s when we had the same number of kids as PNG or Nederland. We played in 4 team districts in the 70s. Simple math. [/quote] I understand where you're coming from with travel and all, but back when you and I played, only the best team (s) made it to the playoffs, and it made it so that every game in district was important. Football (and sports in general) teach kids how to approach life. For example, I've observed a lot of young kids who want to work a 30 hour week and get paid a 40 hour week. Just look at the direction our country is going. I know AAW, we are suppose to discuss this in the political forum-sorry.  8) For me, it's more about the bigger picture...Again, JMO. [/quote] Read my signature. The older generation always thinks the younger generation is gonna destroy the world. It hasnt happened yet. Kids are kids are kids, the kids now aren't much different from kids when you were growing up. [/quote] So what happened to the Romans?

Why did the UIL let any team from 18-4a into the playoffs? Even their district champion could not win a bi-district game. All four of them lost in the first round. Is this fair to district 24-4a who could have had their 5th and 6th place team in? I wonder if Livingston, LCM, Central or Lumberton could have won a playoff game or two. We need to change the playoffs to where only deserving teams get in. How do we do that?

Shouldn't 5 teams go from each district? 24-4a has a pretty good 5th place team that did not make the playoffs. That is certainly not fair considering they could have beat half of the teams that made the playoffs. How about 6 teams. Hell, let's put'em all in, even if you only have one district win. Trophies for everyone.

[quote name="ColdHardTRUTH" post="1113967" timestamp="1321072165"] When they don't have to play a 20-4A team. I think they should move to the district with Hampshire Fannett..they would probably at least be .500 there. [/quote] Where the hell did that "P" come from in Hamshire-Fannett? You must be a damn yankee longing for some cold days in New Hampshire.  ;D

[b]Deer Park[/b] vs. Beaumont West Brook [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] vs. South Houston [b]Galena Park North Shore [/b] vs. Pasadena Dobie [b]La Porte [/b] vs. Pasadena Memorial [b]Crosby[/b] vs. Vidor [b]Nederland[/b] vs. Goose Creek Memorial [b]Barbers Hill [/b] vs. Beaumont Ozen [b]Port Neches-Groves [/b] vs. Dayton [b]Chapel Hill [/b] vs. Jasper [b]Silsbee[/b] vs. Huffman Bullard vs.[b] Center[/b] [b]Coldspring[/b] vs. Bridge City [b]Rusk[/b] vs. Kirbyville [b]West Orange-Stark [/b] vs. Cleveland [b]Tatum[/b] vs. Woodville [b]Corrigan-Camden [/b] vs. West Rusk Jefferson vs.[b] Newton[/b] [b]Frankston[/b] vs. New Waverly Thrall vs.[b] West Hardin[/b] [b]Milano[/b] vs. Burkeville [b]West Sabine [/b] vs. Moody Sabine Pass vs. [b]Burton[/b] [b]Beaumont Legacy [/b] vs. Hallettsville Sacred Heart [b]Beaumont Kelly [/b] vs. Dallas Bishop Dunne [b]Heath Fulton Academy [/b] vs. Orange Community Christian

Baytown Sterling at [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b] Crosby at [b]Barbers Hill[/b] [b]Goose Creek Memorial [/b] at Baytown Lee Houston C.E. King at [b]Dayton[/b] [b]Livingston[/b] at Vidor [b]Nederland[/b] at Little Cypress-Mauriceville [b]Port Neches-Groves [/b] at Beaumont Central [b]Kirbyville[/b] at Center [b]Bridge City [/b] at Orangefield Hardin-Jefferson at [b]West Orange-Stark[/b] [b]Silsbee[/b] at Hamshire-Fannett Liberty at [b]Coldspring[/b] [b]East Chambers [/b] at Warren Hardin at [b]Anahuac[/b] [b]Newton[/b] at Kountze [b]Woodville[/b] at Buna [b]San Augustine [/b] at New Waverly Deweyville at [b]Hemphill[/b] [b]West Sabine [/b] at Hull-Daisetta [b]Evadale[/b] at High Island Sabine Pass at [b]Burkeville[/b] Houston Christian at [b]Beaumont Kelly[/b] [b]Beaumont Legacy [/b] at Cedar Park Summit Christian [b]La Porte [/b] at Beaumont West Brook Lumberton at [b]Beaumont Ozen[/b]

[quote name="atb63" post="1102341" timestamp="1320249318"] I just wondered why they would add Deer Park, and not keep them in the District with the Pasadena Schools.  Well, with only 6 teams in a district, and 4 making the playoffs, I guess adding another team that's not too far away, makes sense.  Also, I just checked, and every 5A district in the State has at least 7 teams.  I think most of them have 8, and 1 had 9 teams.  District 23-5A, the Fort Bend Schools, would have had 10 teams, except now it looks like Willowridge and Marshall have dropped to 4A. [/quote] When the UIL first started taking 4 playoff teams from each district in 5A, they swore that they would make sure that every 5A district had 8 or more teams. It didn't take them long to break that promise.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1102192" timestamp="1320239181"] Look, all this talk about qb's is really not the major issue. You need to be more concerned about your opponent this Friday night. ;) [/quote] I don't think they're concerned about the opponent. After all, they've already attached a poll on here about how they're gonna do in the playoffs (they need to win just to make the playoffs).

I changed it back. I was right the first time. If Silsbee, HF and Orangefield all end up 2-3, Orangefield is +6 and HF is -14. Even if HF beats Silsbee by the max (+18), they would still only be +4 while Orangefield is +6. That gives Orangefield the last spot.

Your right. Thank you. I think it's fixed now. It's late and I'm tending not to see the numbers correctly. Check it now.

WOS is in and will go DII-C Bridge City is in with a:   win OR   Silsbee loss OR   loss to Orangefield by 6 points or less Silsbee is in with a:   win OR   BC win and a loss to Hamshire-Fannett by 2 points or less Orangefield is in with a:   win and a Silsbee loss OR   win by 7 points or more OR   Silsbee loss by 3 points or more Hamshire-Fannett is out Hardin-Jefferson is out

[quote name="tvc184" post="1097319" timestamp="1319830498"] [quote author=Ty Cobb link=topic=90559.msg1097068#msg1097068 date=1319817247] [quote author=BrenhamFan link=topic=90559.msg1097036#msg1097036 date=1319815875] [quote author=Ty Cobb link=topic=90559.msg1097002#msg1097002 date=1319814474] 35 INT's in one season?  WOW, that's a record that will not be broken!!! [/quote] Ya, that's probably the hardest one to break.  Some crazy #'s on there. [/quote] The article says the 35 INT's happened in 1956.  [size=10pt][b]I didn't know they threw the ball in the 50's.[/b][/size]  ;D [/quote] That's probably why they didn't. [/quote] I remember reading an article a few years ago talking about the explosion of the passing game in football in the 1950s. The article was saying that the "Run and Shoot" was originally started in the 50s. I can't remember if it was talking about Pro, College, High School or all of football though.

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1097238" timestamp="1319826034"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=90559.msg1097159#msg1097159 date=1319821615] What did happen to Ken Hall? Does anyone know? [/quote] If he is still alive I don't know but think I would have heard of his passing.  Last I knew, he owned a Barbaque restuarant in Fredickburg Tx.  Ate the in the mid 80's and he had some memorbilia in the store and the food was good.  He had retired from a career with Imperial Sugar and had spent a good deal of time in California with the company before retiring in Texas.  I don't know if you can lookup old articles on SI but that is worth anybody's time who likes Texas HS football. [/quote] This is probably the article you are referring to: [Hidden Content]