Englebert

For some reason this topic had me reviewing HF's all time series with EC. And how I didn't notice this before is beyond me, but I was a little surprised when I saw that the first time EC and HF did not play since the existence of HF was in 1992. HF was formed in 1961, combining the towns of Hamshire, Fannett, LaBelle and part of Cheek. Before the merger, both Hamshire and Fannett were independent and each played 6Man football. I have very little records for either team before the merger, so I don't know if either team played EC prior to 1961. Regardless, the topic is EC versus HF so prior records wouldn't matter anyway. This topic was started by Alice who was bashing HF for not playing EC this year, and accusing HF of killing an old rivalry. But as the records will prove, the streak was broke in 1992 and continued until 2000. This break was because of EC not being capable of fielding a competitive team (HF won 42-14 in 1989, 63-6 in 1990 and 70-0 in 1991, and all three of these scores are a lot closer than they could have been). I don't know which side chose to end the series. Frankly, it was a smart move for both sides. The competition was so out of hand that it was detrimental for both sides to continue. But I think most people will agree, it had to be George W. Bush's fault for the series' demise. Hopefully we will get the series back on track two years from now.

[quote name="alice" post="756213" timestamp="1265491473"] I have always been told , if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I guess HF's coaching staff can't stand the heat of another possible loss to EC. Just shows the direction of many of the HF athletic programs. [/quote] Apparently that's what the EC coaches must have been thinking after the 63-6 and 70-0 blowouts in the early 90s. They didn't decide to play again until nine years later. I have no doubt that HF will correct the ship and get back to their winning ways. So enjoy your newfound success against HF. It's been a long time. And since you are under the presumption that EC has dominated against HF in football, I'm sure you would want me to post the last, say, 15 times EC/HF have played, just to illustrate that heat you're talking about: Last 15 games between HF and EC:   1984  HF    25- 6   1985  HF    18-17   1986  HF      9- 8   1987  HF    26- 6   1988  HF    28-12   1989  HF    42-14   1990  HF    63- 6   1991  HF    70- 0   2000  HF    45-12   2001  EC    25- 2   2002  HF    28- 7   2003  HF    33- 7   2006  EC    20-17   2007  EC    33-19   2009  EC    21- 0 Let me know if you want me to post the scores from further back. They don't get any better for EC until you get to the 60s.

[quote name="alice" post="755697" timestamp="1265402706"] I guess it's just too humiliating for HF to consistently lose to EC [/quote] EC has won the last three meetings by scores of 20-17, 33-19 and 21-0. During the 2000s EC holds a 4-3 advantage in wins, but trails in point total 144-125. I wouldn't call that humiliating dominance by EC, not by a long shot. Now, in the 90s, HF and EC played twice, with HF winning 63-6 in 1990 and 70-0 in 1991. The series was then stopped due to the uncompetitiveness of the games. In the last 15 games, HF leads 11-4 in wins (that includes EC winning the last three). In the overall series HF leads 22-16 in wins. EC dominated the 60s (7-2), HF dominated the 70s (7-3), 80s (8-2), and 90s (2-0). In the 2000s EC won 4-3 (including the last three). And to respond to your post, YES, it is always humiliating to lose to EC. It must be global warming. Or Bush's fault.

You're easily amused.  :D

[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="724030" timestamp="1260013945"] Might be worse to read what an overly educated, self important individual posted that thinks he [i]has[/i] to read everything posted. [/quote] I didn't think it was possible for anyone to be "overly educated", but thanks for thinking so.

Find a garbage can for his posts. The only thing worse than hearing incomprehensible slang, is trying to read it.

I was also at the game and did not see any basketballs being thrown on the field.

5a [b]Galena Park North Shore [/b] vs. Braozoswood Beaumont West Brook vs. [b]Fort Bend Hightower[/b] [b]Laporte[/b] vs Dickinson 4a [b]Port Neches Groves [/b] vs. Brenham [b]Beaumont Central [/b] vs. Huntsville [b]Crosby[/b] vs. Montgomery [b]Dayton[/b] vs. Waller [b]Friendswood[/b] vs Houston Weatley 3a Silsbee vs  [b]Navasota[/b] Cleveland vs [b]Caldwell[/b] [b]Carthage[/b] vs. Mexia [b]Coldspring[/b] vs Rockdale 2A [b]Kirbyville[/b] vs Anahuac [b]Newton[/b] vs Buna Woodville vs [b]East Chambers[/b] 1A [b]Colmesneil[/b] vs Riesel Evadale vs [b]Mart[/b] Hull Daisetta s [b]Lovelady[/b] ** Thursday **

Your scenario has already been covered. [quote name="Englebert" post="710700" timestamp="1258475920"] It is possible. The teams could start overtime tied 2-2. The first team could kick a field goal on their first possession, then get a safety on defense, making the final score 7-2. [/quote] [quote author=Englebert link=topic=62563.msg710806#msg710806 date=1258484388] I have seen a play where a team incurred a safety from inside the opposing red zone. Team A fumbled the ball around Team B's 10 yard line. Team B picked up the fumble and returned it for an apparent touchdown. Right before the player crossed the goal line, a player from Team A stripped the ball. The same player from Team A then picked up the fumble and commenced running the ball back. In trying to avoid a tackle, he crossed back into his own end zone and was later tackled in the end zone. Safety. It can happen. [/quote]

When's the awards presentation. I'm thinking somewhere in the Caribbean with full coverage from ESPN, FoxSports, Vs, History Channel. Don't forget to bring the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.  ;D Thanks for all your hard work Ryker!

When you have Leon Lett running around the field, anything can happen!  :D

I have seen a play where a team incurred a safety from inside the opposing red zone. Team A fumbled the ball around Team B's 10 yard line. Team B picked up the fumble and returned it for an apparent touchdown. Right before the player crossed the goal line, a player from Team A stripped the ball. The same player from Team A then picked up the fumble and commenced running the ball back. In trying to avoid a tackle, he crossed back into his own end zone and was later tackled in the end zone. Safety. It can happen.

It is possible. The teams could start overtime tied 2-2. The first team could kick a field goal on their first possession, then get a safety on defense, making the final score 7-2.

I'll be at the PNG game tonight. I go to all the Hamshire-Fannett games but we barely missed out on the playoffs this year. Them damn referees cost us the district title. Bad breaks and referees cost us second place. Poor play calling, coach's "favorites" playing over would-be starters, lack of execution, and them damn referees cost of the third spot....Are you sure you want me attending the PNG game?

[b]Newton[/b] 9-1 vs Buffalo 7-3 thurs Groveton Pearland Oilers 8-2 vs [b]Galena Park NS [/b] 7-3 FRI Deer Park [b]Pasadena Memorial [/b] 8-2 vs Baytown Lee 3-7  FRI Galena Park Goose Creek Memorial 7-3 vs [b]Beaumont Cental [/b] 7-3  Fri Beaumont Barbers Hill 5-5 vs [b]Port Neches Groves [/b] 10-0 FRI Baytown [b]Carthage[/b] 10-0 vs Gladwater 3-7  FRI Carthage [b]Center [/b] 7-3 vs Tatum 6-4  FRI Nach [b]West Orange Stark [/b] 8-2 vs Coldsprings 8-2  FRI Huffman Bridge City 7-3  vs  [b]Cleveland[/b]  9-1  FRI Pasadena [b]Kirbyville[/b] 8-2 vs  Corrigan Camden  8-2 FRI Lufkin Woodville 5-5 vs [b]New Waverly[/b] 8-2  FRI Huntsville Deer Park 7-3 vs [b]Beaumont West Brook[/b] 7-3 SAT Baytown Laporte 6-3 vs [b]Port Arthur Memorial[/b]  6-4  SAT Pasadena Crosby 7-2 vs [b]Nederland[/b] 5-5  SAT The woodlands [b]Dayton[/b] 7-2 vs Vidor 7-3 SAT Huntsville Jasper 8-2 vs [b]Gilmer[/b] 10-0  SAT Tyler [b]Silsbee[/b] 6-4 vs Huffman 5-5 SAT Baytown

[b]PNG[/b] @ Central [b]Newton[/b] @ Kirbyville [b]Galena Park NS [/b] @ West Brook [b]PA Memorial [/b] @ Baytown Lee Livingston @ [b]Vidor[/b] [b]Nederland[/b] @ Lumberton LCM @ [b]Ozen[/b] Sat Center @ [b]Jasper[/b] [b]Rusk[/b] @ Diboll [b]Bridge City [/b] @ Hamshire Fannett [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Hardin Jefferson [b]WOS[/b] @ Orangefield [b]Woodville[/b] @ San Augustine Buna @ [b]Anahuac[/b] Deweyville @ [b]Hardin[/b] Warren @ [b]East Chambers[/b] Colmesneil @ [b]Evadale[/b] Sabine Pass @ [b]High Island[/b] [b]Hull Daisetta [/b] @ Burkeville [b]Dayton[/b] @ Austin LBJ Sat

[quote name="alumni88" post="696961" timestamp="1257360555"] bh is a decent team with horrible coaching. Going to the games n sitting in the stands really make me wonder. I'm stilling not getting how a coner back who led the houston area in ints last year goes to qb. that makes no sense. i think the back #12 mcdonald should be qb. viverette doesnt take care of the ball well to many fumbles and ints. the next thing i dont get is the running back situation. #34 the back up for #20 is a monster. he she be toting it at least 25 times a game. i think it was the dumbest move ever for him to move to defense. put him in the back field and hand him to ball dont try to make him a blocking dummy. but the one thing the oc has to realize is tht they are not the florida gators and viverette is not tim tebow. he has the worst play calling in america. [b]who cant notice that u run the same play 10 times on one drive. they are not going to make it very far running the qb 15 times in one drive[/b]. that is what you have rbs for. i really think this guy needs to be fired. after the last few seasons i see why hes not calling plays for marshall any more.   wht do yall think??? [/quote] If you're getting 10 to 15 play drives, you must be doing something right.

[b]Vidor[/b] @ Nederland Orangefield @ [b]Bridge City[/b] [b]West Brook [/b] @ Baytown Sterling Channelview @ [b]PA Memorial[/b] [b]Barbers Hill [/b] @ Houston North Forest Houston CE King @ [b]Dayton[/b] [b]Central[/b] @ Livingston Ozen @ [b]PNG[/b] [b]Lumberton[/b] @ LCM Diboll @ [b]Carthage[/b] [b]Jasper[/b] @ Rusk Hamshire Fannett @ [b]Silsbee[/b] Hardin Jefferson @ [b]WOS[/b] Cleveland @ [b]Coldsprings[/b] [b]Kirbyville[/b] @ San Augustine Shelbyville @ [b]Newton[/b] [b]Woodville[/b] @ Hemphill [b]Anahuac[/b] @ Warren [b]East Chambers [/b] @ Kountze Hardin @ [b]Buna[/b] [b]Burkeville[/b] @ Sabine Passs [b]Evadale[/b] @ Chester West Hardin @ [b]Hull Daisetta[/b] High Island @ [b]Colmesneil[/b]

[quote name="Burkeville Chronicle" post="689133" timestamp="1256785875"] Stupid..rumors should be just that..rumors...the only rumors worth a dang are Fleetwood Mac!!! Who doesn't like Stevie Nicks???!!! [/quote] All them rumors turned out to be true!  ;D

We have 2 chances (this Friday and next Friday  :)), but the odds don't look favorable.

I was also at the Plano/PNG game, and the Hous Kashmere/PNG game 1977. I was at the Stephenville/PNG game in 1999, which followed the Garland/Katy game. We got to the Astrodome at 10:30am when the doors opened just so we would get a good seat for the PNG game following the Garland/Katy game. Garland was on the same side that PNG would be on, so we sat on their side (even though I was pulling for Katy). The Garland fans started showing up around 11:30am and found they had to sit on the 20's to the endzones because of the sea of purple in "their" seats. They were not a happy crowd about that. But they defeated Katy, which probably prevented a riot.

HF for this year: Led Zeppelin's "Dazed And Confused".

I've been going to all of the Hamshire-Fannett games all my life (even this year...and it's been a long year). I'll be at all of them next year. Once HF is no longer in the playoffs (when they make it), I go to PNG playoff games. If they're not in it, I go to Nederland games. If all three are out, I usually just pick on a whim. It's usually WOS or Newton because by the time the other three are out, they are usually the two that are still in. I used to travel some to see out of area teams, including Odessa Permian twice (in Odessa at Ratliff Stadium). I've seen a lot of the Houston, Dallas and CenTex teams, but for the last few years I've just went to HF games and a few SETex playoff games. I'll be at the PNG game come Wk11, Wk12, Wk13, Wk14, Wk15 and Wk16.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="684671" timestamp="1256357824"] Very ugly game on both sides.  Saw more flags thrown than in any game I have ever seen!!!!  All flags I saw were deserving also.  Longest game I have ever been to!!!!!  HJ played poorly and got the W 24-8 with 4 missed extra points!!!!  HF has a lot of heart and played with great emotion tonight!!!  hope they get the problems over there worked out!! [/quote] This game was an improvement for HF this year...less flags than normal. They cut down on the fumbles by a factor of about 10. Still a long game though. At least you had somewhere to sit.  :)

PA Memorial @ [b]West Brook[/b] [b]Carthage[/b] @ Jasper [b]GP North Shore [/b] @ Baytown Sterling [b]Crosby[/b] @ Barbers Hill [b]Dayton[/b] @ Galena Park YJ Ozen @ [b]Central[/b] LCM @ [b]Vidor[/b] [b]Nederland[/b] @ Livingston [b]PNG[/b] @ Lumberton Huntington @ [b]Diboll[/b] [b]Hardin Jefferson [/b] @ Hamshire Fannett [b]Silsbee[/b] @ Orangefield [b]WOS[/b] @ Bridge City Hemphill @ [b]Newton[/b] Woodville @ [b]Kirbyville[/b] [b]Buna[/b] @ Deweyville Kountze @ [b]Anahuac[/b] Warren @ [b]Hardin[/b] Chester @ [b]High Island[/b] [b]Evadale[/b] @ West Hardin